Is it just these sounds you are missing all the cockpit sounds (altitude alerter etc.)?

You need to reload the aircraft at the beginning of the flight to get the cockpit sounds. Search "cockpit sounds" for more details...

Matt,
Thanks. Now  I got it. I Select the 727-100 and in FSX screen .I open the top bar  "Aircraft" and select the "Select Aircraft" and RELOAD the 727X. Now I have the cabin  and APU SOUND.
Sanal

Hello Folks,

Thanks again.
Cheers,

Thanks for the reply. I am new in topics . I never had problems with CS727.
Because some people had the sound problem , I thought find the solution by this way. I didn't know the existence of the Kowledge Base, sorry. I'll go to this KB now.

Thanks Richard: For pointing out another way of loading/reloading 727 to get the sound to work...

I can't help it! what could have gone missing from 2.2/2.3; That 2.4 doesn't have in order to get the cockpit sounds to work when it loads the first time?

Thanks Richard: When I load my 727-100 v2.4 the seat belt and no smoking switches are on...No sound until I load it twice then I have to click Off/ On,ON/Off to get the ding. I always start my sim with my default Cessna,engine running at my local airport Copenhagen ( Kastrup) From there I load views..eventual flight and when at the runway I load 727...Twice to get the sounds.

Richard Portier wrote on Apr 6^th, 2010 at 10:24am:
Hi Richard.

Thanks for that info. I started FSX by right clicking on the 727-100 Cold-n-Dark (KSEA) and I think you have nailed it right on the head! I had sounds in the cockpit right from the start.

A handy tip for those who are using Windows 7 (maybe for Vista too), right click on Microsoft Flight Simulator X shows up in the Start Menu (it will if you open it up enough times like I did) and select Pin to Start Menu. After that, right click on the 727-100 Cold-n-Dark (KSEA) (in Documents\Flight Simulator X Files the one of the 3 should have the FSX icon) and select Open. After doing all that, on the FSX shortcut pinned to the Start Menu you will have an arrow next to it showing recently opened files.

Like so:-


Mark

Berlopez wrote on Apr 6^th, 2010 at 4:11pm:

Hi Bernardo.

The 727-100 Cleared for take off (KSEA) file can be found in My Documents\Flight Simulator X Files (Documents\Flight Simulator X Files for Vista/Win7 users).

Try opening (right click then select open) the one in Documents\Flight Simulator X Files and NOT the one in FSX\Captain_Sim\727\flights. It should open with FSX automatically.

There are three files named 727-100 Cleared for takeoff (KSEA). The first is a .FLT, the second is a .FSSAVE and the third is .WX. Do the right click method on the 727-100 Cleared for take off (KSEA).FSSAVE. Most users have Hide extensions for known file types enabled. In fact, Windows does this automatically and that is why, so may only see three 727-100 Cleared for take off (KSEA). Because Windows lists same named files numerically then alphabetically, it will flow on to the file extension, the order should be .FLT, then .FSSAVE and then .WX. So it is the second one you do. Even if you have reverse listed it, it WILL always be the second one. i.e. WX, FSSAVE �then FLT.

Just as a side note. It is possible that the .FLT will also open FSX by default. I'm just not 100% sure because my .FLT files open in notepad by default and I can't remember if I changed it. If it needed to be changed I WOULD have changed it.

Hope this helps.

Mark

Hi.
Has anybody else had problems with getting the sound to work on the crew messenger panel in this software ?

With v2.4 it has been found that you need to reload the 727 again after you first start with it, then the sounds work fine.

Mark

I still find this issue very annoying... Can anyone share any tips in how to fix this>

Darn it! I shouldn't have spoken too soon.
I got the McAfee bug in my sys. even though I ran Vista32...Upon first recommendation by McAfee I sent my computer for formatting and installing instead of vista; XP home edition.Yes I have had  to redownload a lot of my hangar amogst others cap727_2.4; Which I just did... I had saved the installer to a memory stick and ran that,until I realized the sounds were not working?...
So I redownloaded a new version and have just installed...The sounds don't work here either  NO alt.Alerter,Safety belt,No smoking sounds etc...

It's been sometime since I installed 727 and all the changes that have been done to it...I'm probably missing something. I would very much appreciate if someone who comes across this post would help me refresh my memory and guide me regarding this issue.

Thanks in advance.

Bernardo

This is a very nice Aircraft, but cockpit sounds don't work (Window 7 64Bit) "msvcr71.dll" copy to FSX rootdir and changing in "sound.ini" also don't help.

Here is a HD video. I have today upload
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9-TOFWt9T0

Have a nice flight

Thanks Mark,

That works, but this is a temporary solution sure 

Cheers

Hello Mark: As I haved PMed you. I still can't recieve e-mails? I have installed win7 on my computer and FSX SP2 Wow! Beautiful graphics and my GC doesn't give me any problems here.
I went on to install 727-100 V2.4 and check it out....No cabin sounds,even after loading it twice or even three times, Noticed the windows don't make the sliding sound...Alt.Alerter,signs etc...No cockpit/Cabin sounds at all. I haven't touched any of the .cfgs' or .ini sound files. Shouldn't be nessesary with V2.4?Mendoza says above that copying the msvcr71.dll to FSX root folder didn't help him either and he has a 64 bit system. I just did a search in my computer for the msvcr71.dll and it found 5 in win.old...I copied one of them and pasted to FSX root folder....And I got the sounds Alt.Alert, safetysigns etc... I had tried see below...
I uninstalled via the uninstaller...Then reinstalled via my saved installer and activated "now" via internet...Still no sounds Alt.Alert signs clicks; Flaps do sound. �s there anything you can suggest?
Assuming that no changes are to be made in this version V2.4 in the �sound.ini file. Mine is set at 1 and I just tried to set it to 0 as adviced in the KB...Couldn't save the file it says: "Access Denied"??? I'm opening the file with Notepad.I wonder why I couldn't edit via Notepad,though? I'm trying to add the GPS/NAV switches form the Cessna that wereincluded to make it fly/Fallow GPS. Notepad won't let me save the changes; Is there a securty setting in win7 one has to edit or what?

Bernardo �

Hi Mark: Just tried as you advice...Forgive my ignorance. I've never had this problem with Notepad?

I go to the 727 panel folder,find the .cfg file at the bottom,open it with Notepad,add the lines to the autopilot section as you describe in the GPS/NAV topic and paste the lines in there. Then I click on file and click save.Then it tell me that the file already exists and if I want to replace it; I say/click yes...Then it says: ACCESS DENIED. This is the exact way I use to do this using Vista and XP....What can be different in 7?

Hello Mark: Thanks for your advice and going through the trouble of helping me with this explicit reply.
I did exactly as you suggest. I still got the message " Access Denied".
So I Google a bit regarding the issue and somebody there suggested taking the file out to the desktop and edit in there....So I did that,fallowed your instructions making sure notepad is looking at "All Files" And it got saved: Here's a copy of the section:
[Window03]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=427,106
position=2
visible=0
ident=10005
gauge00=Captain_Sim.p721.P12!P12_001_ap, 0,0, 427,106
gauge01=Cessna!Nav_GPS_Annunciator,                   400, 106, 24, 22
gauge02=Cessna!Nav GPS Switch,                         �376, 106, 24, 22


Eventhough is there. When I open 727-100 and open the autopilot window the small gauges are not there???...Underneath the autopilot window.I do have them however in the GPS window.

I don't really know if this has to do with windows permissions with this new win7 install I made or what/why this isn't possible anymore?

Here is an image of the the notepad window when I'm trying to save th file.Once I click save it says the file already exits and if I want to replace it? I say yes. I get a "Ding"...Then I it says "Access Denied"



Bernardo

Dear All,

i bought the captain sim 727 version 2.3 here in germany a few weeks ago as aboxed version.

All is working fine, but i still have problems with the crew and passenger messages / sounds.
I try all fixes from this topic, i.e. 727-100 Cold-n-Dark (KSEA), msvcr71.dll and reloading of the plan, without success.

I have Win 7 64 bit, FSX SP 2.

All other sound like APU , switches etc. are ok.

So I need some help to get the crew and passenger sound availible.

Btw. when I start the sound directly from the captain sim folder, via win media player, it works perfect.

Any ideas?

Thanks & Best Regards

Sturmfahrt

Hi everybody!

I've just installed the 727, and flown it quite a few hours lately. An absolutely brilliant bird, and my absolute favourite airliner of all time. I also had the Legendary 727 for fs9.
One problem though, the cockpit sounds won't play? I mean the clicking of buttons, altitude alert, captain/flightatt. announcements etc. Any pointers?


Cheers!

Tor

Ok thanks, I'll try that, just need to land her at Denver first!

I just got this plane last week, and am having a blast with it as well.  I've been practicing short IFR flights between Edinburgh and Glasgow Prestwick.  I have all systems working properly at this point, now enjoying fine tuning my approach and landings.  Really love all the eye candy and the ACE and the freight loading and other animations.  Really top notch.

You do have to learn about some quirks, but once you do, it's really fun.  I especially like hand flying this bird.  It is really nice.

Hello folks!!!
I have an unusual trouble with the sound, after some minutes (where I don't open other program or don't do other actions) the sounds like switches, seat bealts or no smok, or APU, disappear!!! �
I tried reloading the aircraft but nothing!!!!
To have again the sounds, I have to reboot FSX and load the aircraft twice!!!! But after some minutes... one more time the sounds disappear!!! �
Anybody have this issue????!!!!
How I can resolve this problem????
And why the CS with 4 s.p. wasn't able to fix this boring trouble???? � (sorry CaptainSim!)

Hi all, first time poster and owner of the 727-100 and 200.  I'm trying to make the crew sounds work, and I think this is the issue. But, I'm a little unclear.  One suggests saving the file and loading directly.  One suggests loading a default flight and then changing the aircraft.  My usual procedure for any add-on aircraft is to load the default aircraft and then change the aircraft, yet I'm not certain I'm actually getting all the sounds (no call-outs, the crew messenger doesn't make any sound, etc.)  So, three questions:

1.  If I want to do a flight from cold and dark, should I just load a default flight, then load the SEA flight, then move it?  Will that work?

2.  How can I be certain I'm getting all the sounds? 

3.  If I just save a flight where the sounds have disappeared, can I simply save it and then start over?

Thanks for your detailed reply.  With regards to the "double load" method, isn't that hard to do if you're starting from the cold and dark?  don't you have to load the cold and dark flight, move it, etc., save it, and then load it twice more?

And, I'll check the chime, I seem to recall hearing it.  But, shouldn't the crew messenger produces sounds and call outs then when I push the buttons? Reading the forum, I get the sense that the plane has an FO who makes the call out for V1, etc. 

Best,

Doug

Thanks.  What about the Crew Messenger?  Does that actually make sound if its working?

Thanks agian.  The Crew messenger lights but makes no calls.  I'm assuming this is the same issue.

Best,

Doug

Mark, thanks.  I have tried all of the following:

1.  Direct load from start menu
2.  Double load of aircraft
3.  Change the sound.ini file. 

None of this seems to work.  No Alt alert chime, no APU fire test bell (which I got the first time I used it, but not since then), Crew Messenger 2D panel also does not work.

I have installed the gauge fix recommended for the oscillation issue.

I'm sort of stumped. 

My Specs, if it helps:  i7920@3.4, Asus P6T, GTX 280, 6GB Ram, W7 Pro 64, FSX, SP2, FSX is on its own drive, other add-ons that are running: FSUIPC Registered, REX 2.0, UT2, GEX and UTX, Misc add-on airports)

Best,

Doug

Did you read through the other sound threads around?
http://www.captainsim.org/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1286037561

Here's a quote with a thing you haven't mentioned yet.
Quote:

Oops, I just saw that this tip is also mentioned in this thread on page one. But maybe you haven't tried it yet.

Hi Doug.

That change shouldn't cause you any problems. I keep forgetting about the msvcr71.dll fix because I never needed it. Sorry about that. I will try to remember it from now on.

Mark

Mark, can explain me why I lost my sound when I fly with "Real Environment Extreme Weather Engine"  active, or while I fly on IVAO, so when my FSX is connected to the network? I tried to load the aircraft twice, in this way I have the sound ok; but soon I start REX weather engine, the sounds disappear. Than I tried first to start REX weather engine, than to load the aircraft twice but the sounds won't work.
Can somebody help me????

Markoz wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2011 at 1:43pm:


Thanks Mark, I hope this sounds boring issue will be resolved in the next SP. Do you Know if Captainsim are working for the 2.5?

Is Capt Sim ever gong to fix this? and do all their products have sound issues?

Hello Catain Sim,
First of all i have read kb#2930.
I have the 727 2.4 ver installed in win7 64bits. I tried the alt+a+enter+enter and the slew thing in the .cfg and nothing. No sounds. I only didn�t try the msvcr71.dll because this is an old version of the c++ lybrary. I have installed the new ones for 64 bits systems (vcredist_x64.exe).
So here is the question: Do i need to have this old library (msvcr71.dll) to make 727 sounds work, or if i have the new one it�s ok? �As you say in the kb:
Quote:

Th newest package DON�T have this file: msvcr71.dll

I have also the c130,707,757 and they work without problems (IUncluding the sounds). I even tried the KSEA cold-and-dark without any results.

Any help on this is appreciated.
Thanks.

Hello,
The combination of the .DLL (The old version) and alt+a+enter+enter worked. But CS should do something about it. Make this dependent of an old component is something that not should be use.  Old components could do more harm than help in new systems. CS should think in a 2.5 version to correct this anoying issue.

Thanks Markoz for your help!

Hello,
Downloaded it from here:
http://www.dll-files.com/dllindex/dll-files.shtml?msvcr71

Put it in FSX root folder and in Windows/system32 folder.
Than open a flight with the 727 and reload the aircraft with Alt+a+enter+enter. It�s wrong but it worked for me.

Try to create a flight not using the CS pre-defined flights and look if the sound works at the first time, withou reloading the plane, please.
I think the 727 is directly msvcr71.dll dependent. And win7 64bits don�t have this file for default, not even installing the latest c++ library.

Quote:


Yep! That�s what i�m talking about. �

AHA!!! Another probably useful observation.

If I save my own created flight and then re-open it as I would open the KSEA flight, the sounds are on!

Why can't CS correct this bug? It seems to have been out there for some time. I remember having CS 727 a few years back and never had a problem with sounds.

The sound issue was not present in v2.3. So something changed in v2.4 to cause this. I just don't know what it is that changed.

Mark

Absolutely, otto. But no need to look like this �, use this instead �.
The current reload thing is a workaround only, no doubt there. It e. g. still messes up some other things and I've found out that you can reload that thing in at least two ways.
One causes the radar to fail and some switches around to be in some very "cold&dark" state. Also, the "L" key and the one for the AP don't drive the VC switches then, but the functions itself are working.
To clarify: Without that reloading, everything works and behaves fine, except the click/warning sounds.

So, yes, a sound fix which enables the sounds like on the 707 or B-52 (meaning, on the very first loading) would be highly appreciated. �

Ah, windows open inflight. I said this once before, but it always makes me smile when thinking about Mr. Goldfinger "exiting" the plane in that James Bond movie.

Not so smiling fact: There was a (real) incident where the Captain of the aircraft was sucked out after his windscreen collapsed. They held him back from actually falling, so he "surfed" the skies while his Co-Pilot managed to land.
Talking about being at cruise FL there, so he had some interesting minutes and actually survived this happening.
http://www.nytimes.com/1990/06/11/world/4-miles-over-britain-pilot-is-sucked-out...

Back to the sounds, I've tried your suggestion, Diсk Everhard, but it didn't give me back the sounds. So the reloading still stays the only workaround for me.
Seems like this sound gauge on the 727 needs to be initialized twice to start working.

CoolP wrote on Mar 16^th, 2011 at 5:56pm:

Thanks for the reply. I know you folks will work it out. Still glad I went back to CS.  Q. Are there any major issues with the C130? Figured that will be next on my list of things to have 

Yes, I would like to know to why 2.3 worked and 2.4 does not.
Since I don't have a 2.3 installer anymore, I can't compare things. But even if I could, I'm no gauge mechanics, so my analysis would be not more than skin-deep.

Glad to hear that the 707 on 727 thing works. I had around four flights now and apart from the mentioned "ID already exists" messages for some seconds after loading, everything is there and working, even with the clearer 707 click sounds, so the fidelity even entered a new level.
Surely not to be called solution this whole thing, but I'm ok so far since I get a sounding 727 on the first load which doesn't mix up my offline ATC solution.

You are right, Mark, most gauges are standard FSX xml and one can open and read them easily. But this one seems to be of another kind.
However, I'm ok with the operation now and since this "fix" (it's no such thing, but a workaround only) is public now, CS can look into that gauge for the 2.5 version of the 727.

Dropping a ticket today, so the need for it is in the system.Edited:


Is anyone else missing the marker sounds on the 727? I wonder if this has something to do with this fix now.
They work fine on the 707, but my 727 stays silent on the Markers.
I've tried the toggling the VC switches and the FSX internal setting with Ctrl+3, only lights, no sounds.

Hi.

I've looked at many of the gauges and still have many more to go (there are a lot!), I haven't found any differences yet. The Captain_Sim.p727.sound.gau is the same one used in v2.3, as are all the gauges I have looked at up to now. There are 2 new gauges, the 2D WxR (the free, included one from Captain Sim). There must be some other differences, but I haven't found them yet. The dates and sizes so far are the same in them all.

Mark

OK. Here is how I went.

There are a few gauge changes in 727-100 v2.4, I replaced them with the ones from v2.3, one at a time, then in different combinations. Each change required FSX to be closed and then restarted. It was a case of: Make gauge changes, start FSX, load CS727, Fly, FSX off, make gauge changes, start FSX, load CS727, Fly, FSX off...over and over again ). I never got the sound working that way. I always had to reload the aircraft. No idea why.

So...... I went back to CS727-100 v2.3. Start FSX, load CS727, fly, no sound! What???? No matter what I did, I had the same problem. I had to reload the 727 to hear the sounds.
So.......I went all the way back to v2.2. Start FSX, load CS727, fly, no sound! What on earth is going on here? Same deal as v2.3 and v2.4.

The only thing I never did, was the editing the registry. I really don't want to do that.

Mark