Hello,
Do you have sounds for the smoke & belt sign ?
No sound for me even with proper entries in the CFG.
Thanks in advance.
Cheers,

Is it just these sounds you are missing all the cockpit sounds (altitude alerter etc.)?

You need to reload the aircraft at the beginning of the flight to get the cockpit sounds. Search "cockpit sounds" for more details...

Matt,
I am having sound problem also. Will you please verify what do you mean "reload the aircraft at the beginning ". I am confuse.
Thanks
Sanal

Matt,
Thanks. Now  I got it. I Select the 727-100 and in FSX screen .I open the top bar  "Aircraft" and select the "Select Aircraft" and RELOAD the 727X. Now I have the cabin  and APU SOUND. ;D
Sanal :D

asanal wrote on Jan 24^th, 2010 at 6:30pm:

Matt, Thanks. Now  I got it. I Select the 727-100 and in FSX screen .I open the top bar  "Aircraft" and select the "Select Aircraft" and RELOAD the 727X. Now I have the cabin  and APU SOUND. ;D Sanal :D

Yes, maybe "Re-Select" the aircraft would be another way to say it...glad you got it working!

Hello Folks,

Thanks again.
Cheers,

The question has been previously answered by our Customer Support.
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Thanks for the reply. I am new in topics . I never had problems with CS727.
Because some people had the sound problem , I thought find the solution by this way. I didn't know the existence of the Kowledge Base, sorry. I'll go to this KB now.
:)

Hi,

An other way to have sound cockpit :

Run FSX>>>Load start flight (mine is Cessna ColdandDark at KORD)>>>From this screen (important) load a previously saved flight with the 727and... all is fine. It works for me.

I don't absolutly sure but it seems I have not the avionics master off after +-10 minutes.

Regards.

Richard Portier

Thanks Richard: For pointing out another way of loading/reloading 727 to get the sound to work...

I can't help it! what could have gone missing from 2.2/2.3; That 2.4 doesn't have in order to get the cockpit sounds to work when it loads the first time? :-/

Hi again,

Last but not least...

With the load system I wrote in my previous post, the bird have exactly the same cockpit config after parked and leave the plane. (hydraulic off, fuel off, smoke & belt sign off etc, etc, etc).

Just the cockpit state before I saved it. Nice  8-)

Regards.

Richard Portier

Thanks Richard: When I load my 727-100 v2.4 the seat belt and no smoking switches are on...No sound until I load it twice then I have to click Off/ On,ON/Off to get the ding. I always start my sim with my default Cessna,engine running at my local airport Copenhagen ( Kastrup) From there I load views..eventual flight and when at the runway I load 727...Twice to get the sounds.

Hi,

An other tip to have cockpit sound without load the bird XXX times.

This tip is from "Depar". His post is on Avsim forum (turbo another company). It concerns an other problem on an other product but it seems to work for the sound problem.

So, "Right clicking the saved flight, and loading via FSX exe.
This also skips the welcome screen (which is where the bug comes from I guess), and goes directly to saved flight.
You can sellect always load these kind of files to be opened by FSX.exe, so next time you'll be
able to double click on your saved (cold&dark) flights as a short cut."

For me it works like a charm.

Regards.

Richard Portier

Richard Portier wrote on Apr 6^th, 2010 at 10:24am:

So, "Right clicking the saved flight, and loading via FSX exe. This also skips the welcome screen (which is where the bug comes from I guess), and goes directly to saved flight. You can sellect always load these kind of files to be opened by FSX.exe, so next time you'll be able to double click on your saved (cold&dark) flights as a short cut." For me it works like a charm.

Hi Richard.

Thanks for that info. I started FSX by right clicking on the 727-100 Cold-n-Dark (KSEA) and I think you have nailed it right on the head! I had sounds in the cockpit right from the start.

A handy tip for those who are using Windows 7 (maybe for Vista too), right click on Microsoft Flight Simulator X shows up in the Start Menu (it will if you open it up enough times like I did) and select Pin to Start Menu. After that, right click on the 727-100 Cold-n-Dark (KSEA) (in Documents\Flight Simulator X Files the one of the 3 should have the FSX icon) and select Open. After doing all that, on the FSX shortcut pinned to the Start Menu you will have an arrow next to it showing recently opened files.

Like so:-
http://i669.photobucket.com/albums/vv58/Markoz958/startmenu.jpg

Mark

After loading the 727-100 from:
My computer/document/Flight Simulator File and choosing Flight 727-100 Cleared for take off (KSEA)FSSAVE file; In Vista32 It loads with sounds in the cockpit...
Maybe slowly but surely we're finding a solution for this issue?...That'll be great!

FOR OTHER THAT MIGHT HAVE THIS ISSUE LIKE i HAVE; i STRESS THAT YOU REMEMBER THE msvcr71.dll AND COPY/PASTE IT NTO YOUR fsx ROOT FOLDER. I just did after a reinstall and many e-mail replies form Mark and all works fine now. Igot my cokpit sounds back.

Berlopez wrote on Apr 6^th, 2010 at 4:11pm:

:(Surely I'm doing something wrong here). I loaded form my LOAD in my vista FSX installation Flight 727-100 Cleared for take off (KSEA). It loads in three D cockpit with no sounds, Had to load it twice to get the sounds to work  :-X

Hi Bernardo.

The 727-100 Cleared for take off (KSEA) file can be found in My Documents\Flight Simulator X Files (Documents\Flight Simulator X Files for Vista/Win7 users).

Try opening (right click then select open) the one in Documents\Flight Simulator X Files and NOT the one in FSX\Captain_Sim\727\flights. It should open with FSX automatically.

There are three files named 727-100 Cleared for takeoff (KSEA). The first is a .FLT, the second is a .FSSAVE and the third is .WX. Do the right click method on the 727-100 Cleared for take off (KSEA).FSSAVE. Most users have Hide extensions for known file types enabled. In fact, Windows does this automatically and that is why, so may only see three 727-100 Cleared for take off (KSEA). Because Windows lists same named files numerically then alphabetically, it will flow on to the file extension, the order should be .FLT, then .FSSAVE and then .WX. So it is the second one you do. Even if you have reverse listed it, it WILL always be the second one. i.e. WX, FSSAVE  then FLT.

Just as a side note. It is possible that the .FLT will also open FSX by default. I'm just not 100% sure because my .FLT files open in notepad by default and I can't remember if I changed it. If it needed to be changed I WOULD have changed it.

Hope this helps.

Mark

Thanks for the guide Mark. I already PM'ed you.

Yes it does load with sounds in the cockpit.

Hope CS fixes this soon in the next version....

Hi.
Has anybody else had problems with getting the sound to work on the crew messenger panel in this software ? :)

Yes. Have only tried the cabin announcements a couple times but many don't seem to work.

With v2.4 it has been found that you need to reload the 727 again after you first start with it, then the sounds work fine.

Mark

Thank you. Is there a fix yet ? :)

I still find this issue very annoying... Can anyone share any tips in how to fix this>

The best way is to save a flight with the 727 (or use the 727-100 Cold-n-Dark (KSEA)) and start it directly to avoid going int the start menu in FSX. The sounds work fine from the start then. It's the only "fix" I know of.

See my reply (#13) in this topic.

Mark

:-/Darn it! I shouldn't have spoken too soon.
I got the McAfee bug in my sys. even though I ran Vista32...Upon first recommendation by McAfee I sent my computer for formatting and installing instead of vista; XP home edition.Yes I have had  to redownload a lot of my hangar amogst others cap727_2.4; Which I just did... I had saved the installer to a memory stick and ran that,until I realized the sounds were not working?...
So I redownloaded a new version and have just installed...The sounds don't work here either  :-? NO alt.Alerter,Safety belt,No smoking sounds etc...

It's been sometime since I installed 727 and all the changes that have been done to it...I'm probably missing something. I would very much appreciate if someone who comes across this post would help me refresh my memory and guide me regarding this issue.

Thanks in advance.

Bernardo

I am using CS 727 v. 2.4 with my system which is Win XP Pro 64. I don't have the cockpit sounds even after trying all the workarounds such as changing the aircraft cfg and reloading the plane still the same issue. Anyone  with Win XP 64 having the same problem ?  Thanks  :(

This is a very nice Aircraft, but cockpit sounds don't work (Window 7 64Bit) "msvcr71.dll" copy to FSX rootdir and changing in "sound.ini" also don't help.

Here is a HD video. I have today upload ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9-TOFWt9T0

Have a nice flight

I have Windows 7 64bit and I have done those things (except the "msvcr71.dll" copy because my Windows 7 didn't like it) to get the sounds. I now have two methods I use for getting the sounds to work:

1. After starting the flight with the 727, reload the aircraft and the sounds are there.

2. Start FSX directly from a saved flight with the 727. e.g. 727-100 Cold-n-Dark (KSEA). The sounds are there right from the start. I have my Microsoft Flight Simulator X shortcut pinned to the Start Menu and it will show the last 10 files (flights) that I used to start FSX with. You can also change how many of the files you want to display up to 30. Mine is set at 15.

http://i669.photobucket.com/albums/vv58/Markoz958/startmenu.jpg
See what I mean?

I hope this helps.

Mark

Thanks Mark,

That works, but this is a temporary solution sure  :D

Cheers

mendoza wrote on May 8^th, 2010 at 2:47pm:

That works, but this is a temporary solution sure

Yeah. I'm sure it is. This wasn't a problem in v2.3 but it is in v2.4. Hopefully Captain Sim will fix it in v2.5, as I'm sure they are aware that most (maybe even all) of us have this problem. ;)

Mark

Hello Mark: As I haved PMed you. I still can't recieve e-mails? I have installed win7 on my computer and FSX SP2 Wow! Beautiful graphics and my GC doesn't give me any problems here.
I went on to install 727-100 V2.4 and check it out....No cabin sounds,even after loading it twice or even three times, Noticed the windows don't make the sliding sound...Alt.Alerter,signs etc...No cockpit/Cabin sounds at all. I haven't touched any of the .cfgs' or .ini sound files. Shouldn't be nessesary with V2.4?Mendoza says above that copying the msvcr71.dll to FSX root folder didn't help him either and he has a 64 bit system. I just did a search in my computer for the msvcr71.dll and it found 5 in win.old...I copied one of them and pasted to FSX root folder....And I got the sounds Alt.Alert, safetysigns etc... I had tried see below...
I uninstalled via the uninstaller...Then reinstalled via my saved installer and activated "now" via internet...Still no sounds Alt.Alert signs clicks; Flaps do sound. Ís there anything you can suggest?
Assuming that no changes are to be made in this version V2.4 in the ´sound.ini file. Mine is set at 1 and I just tried to set it to 0 as adviced in the KB...Couldn't save the file it says: "Access Denied"??? I'm opening the file with Notepad.I wonder why I couldn't edit via Notepad,though? I'm trying to add the GPS/NAV switches form the Cessna that wereincluded to make it fly/Fallow GPS. Notepad won't let me save the changes; Is there a securty setting in win7 one has to edit or what?

Bernardo  ;)

Hi Bernardo.

It all has to do with "run as administrator". Right click on notepad and select "run as administrator", then open the file you want to modify and when you are done, save it.

I'm using Windows 7 Professional and most of my programs are actually installed on different drive than the "C:" drive and so I don't have this problem. In fact, I find I'm rarely running a program or opening a file using "run as administrator" AND I can edit or modify to my hearts content without worry!

Hope this helps.

Mark

Hi Mark: Just tried as you advice...Forgive my ignorance. I've never had this problem with Notepad?

I go to the 727 panel folder,find the .cfg file at the bottom,open it with Notepad,add the lines to the autopilot section as you describe in the GPS/NAV topic and paste the lines in there. Then I click on file and click save.Then it tell me that the file already exists and if I want to replace it; I say/click yes...Then it says: ACCESS DENIED. This is the exact way I use to do this using Vista and XP....What can be different in 7? ::)

Hi Bernardo.

Look at the image and follow the numbers.

1. Click on the Start button, then All Programs.

2. Click on Accessories, then find Notepad and RIGHT mouse click on it so you see the dropdown menu like in the image.

3. From that dropdown menu click on "Run as administrator". A box will pop up asking if you want to allow notepad to make changes to your computer. Click on Yes.

http://i669.photobucket.com/albums/vv58/Markoz958/AdminNotepad1-1.jpg

Now you need to open the .cfg file you want to edit with notepad. CTRL+O to open a new document, navigate to your the CS_B727-100\panel folder (make sure notepad is looking for All Files and not just TEXT files) and select the panel.cfg. You should now be able to make the changes and save them.

Mark

Hello Mark: Thanks for your advice and going through the trouble of helping me with this explicit reply.
I did exactly as you suggest. I still got the message " Access Denied".
So I Google a bit regarding the issue and somebody there suggested taking the file out to the desktop and edit in there....So I did that,fallowed your instructions making sure notepad is looking at "All Files" And it got saved: Here's a copy of the section:
[Window03]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=427,106
position=2
visible=0
ident=10005
gauge00=Captain_Sim.p721.P12!P12_001_ap, 0,0, 427,106
gauge01=Cessna!Nav_GPS_Annunciator,                   400, 106, 24, 22
gauge02=Cessna!Nav GPS Switch,                          376, 106, 24, 22


Eventhough is there. When I open 727-100 and open the autopilot window the small gauges are not there???...Underneath the autopilot window.I do have them however in the GPS window.

I don't really know if this has to do with windows permissions with this new win7 install I made or what/why this isn't possible anymore?

Here is an image of the the notepad window when I'm trying to save th file.Once I click save it says the file already exits and if I want to replace it? I say yes. I get a "Ding"...Then I it says "Access Denied"

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj107/berlopez/wordpadj-peg.png

Bernardo

Great thread! I was able resolve my sound issues by re-loading the aircraft after loading the flight.

Any word if there is going to be an update to fix this?

Update: Nevermind. I just looked at KB#2930 and it is going to be fixed in the next SP. Thanks CS!

Dear All,

i bought the captain sim 727 version 2.3 here in germany a few weeks ago as aboxed version.

All is working fine, but i still have problems with the crew and passenger messages / sounds.
I try all fixes from this topic, i.e. 727-100 Cold-n-Dark (KSEA), msvcr71.dll and reloading of the plan, without success.

I have Win 7 64 bit, FSX SP 2.

All other sound like APU , switches etc. are ok.

So I need some help to get the crew and passenger sound availible.

Btw. when I start the sound directly from the captain sim folder, via win media player, it works perfect.

Any ideas?

Thanks & Best Regards

Sturmfahrt

Greetings!

After a re-install of FSX and the CS 721 2.4 I can not get the alt. alerter to sound off. Resetting the flight does not do it. Same with the 722, which I just bought and installed. The flaps and gear sounds work fine. Any new fixes for the sound problems?

Bruce

Hi everybody!

I've just installed the 727, and flown it quite a few hours lately. An absolutely brilliant bird, and my absolute favourite airliner of all time. I also had the Legendary 727 for fs9.
One problem though, the cockpit sounds won't play? I mean the clicking of buttons, altitude alert, captain/flightatt. announcements etc. Any pointers?


Cheers!

Tor

You have to load the aircraft a second time.  Not just reset the flight, you have to get out to the select aircraft box, click on your plane, then load it again.  That should get all your cockpit sounds working.

Ok thanks, I'll try that, just need to land her at Denver first! :P

Worked perfectly! thanx a lot!

I just got this plane last week, and am having a blast with it as well.  I've been practicing short IFR flights between Edinburgh and Glasgow Prestwick.  I have all systems working properly at this point, now enjoying fine tuning my approach and landings.  Really love all the eye candy and the ACE and the freight loading and other animations.  Really top notch.

You do have to learn about some quirks, but once you do, it's really fun.  I especially like hand flying this bird.  It is really nice.

The plane is a pure joy indeed. I'm flying the Loc rwy 9 at Telluride Colorado at the time of writing. Highly unlikely for a 727 in real life, but hey it's a sim.

best regards Tor

Hello folks!!!
I have an unusual trouble with the sound, after some minutes (where I don't open other program or don't do other actions) the sounds like switches, seat bealts or no smok, or APU, disappear!!!  >:(
I tried reloading the aircraft but nothing!!!!
To have again the sounds, I have to reboot FSX and load the aircraft twice!!!! But after some minutes... one more time the sounds disappear!!!  :'(
Anybody have this issue????!!!!
How I can resolve this problem????
And why the CS with 4 s.p. wasn't able to fix this boring trouble????  :-? (sorry CaptainSim!)

Have loaded from file menu vs FSX startup, C/D B727-100 SEA and ready for TO, SEA.  Reload twice.  Cockpit sounds OK, but gone when ac is relocated to another airport.  Change any parameter and sounds are gone.  Reload at new site and still no sound.  Any suggestions?

Hi all, first time poster and owner of the 727-100 and 200.  I'm trying to make the crew sounds work, and I think this is the issue. But, I'm a little unclear.  One suggests saving the file and loading directly.  One suggests loading a default flight and then changing the aircraft.  My usual procedure for any add-on aircraft is to load the default aircraft and then change the aircraft, yet I'm not certain I'm actually getting all the sounds (no call-outs, the crew messenger doesn't make any sound, etc.)  So, three questions:

1.  If I want to do a flight from cold and dark, should I just load a default flight, then load the SEA flight, then move it?  Will that work?

2.  How can I be certain I'm getting all the sounds?  

3.  If I just save a flight where the sounds have disappeared, can I simply save it and then start over?  

Hi ddo2

1.  If I want to do a flight from cold and dark, should I just load a default flight, then load the SEA flight, then move it?  Will that work?
Try opening the 727-100 Xold-n-Dark (KSEA) with FSX from Documents\Flight Simulator X files. Doing it this way, I found that the sounds are working when I start, I don't need to reload the aircraft. I have FSX AND the flights (FLT files) that come with the Captain Sim aircraft "pinned" to my start menu. But you can only do that with Vista and Win7.

http://i669.photobucket.com/albums/vv58/Markoz958/startpinned.jpg

The other method I use is to start FSX. Then in Free Flight I select everything, starting with the CS727, airport, time of day, flight plan, fuel and then select Fly Now. Once FSX is ready, I reload the 727 and my sounds are all there.

2.  How can I be certain I'm getting all the sounds?
Just rotate the ALTITUDE ALERT knob. When it is with 800-900 feet  of the 727's actual altitude, it will chime. That tells you that the sounds are all working correctly.

http://i669.photobucket.com/albums/vv58/Markoz958/727AtitudeAlert.jpg

3.  If I just save a flight where the sounds have disappeared, can I simply save it and then start over?
I think the sound will return if you load the saved flight.

Hope this helps.

Mark

Thanks for your detailed reply.  With regards to the "double load" method, isn't that hard to do if you're starting from the cold and dark?  don't you have to load the cold and dark flight, move it, etc., save it, and then load it twice more?

And, I'll check the chime, I seem to recall hearing it.  But, shouldn't the crew messenger produces sounds and call outs then when I push the buttons? Reading the forum, I get the sense that the plane has an FO who makes the call out for V1, etc.  

Best,

Doug

ddo2 wrote on Feb 15^th, 2011 at 6:10pm:

Thanks for your detailed reply.  With regards to the "double load" method, isn't that hard to do if you're starting from the cold and dark?  don't you have to load the cold and dark flight, move it, etc., save it, and then load it twice more? And, I'll check the chime, I seem to recall hearing it.  But, shouldn't the crew messenger produces sounds and call outs then when I push the buttons? Reading the forum, I get the sense that the plane has an FO who makes the call out for V1, etc.   Best, Doug

You don't "double load" the flight.  Just the aircraft.   As you load the flight and you come alive at your airport, you use the menu to "select aircraft", then click on the plane you are sitting in and hit OK.  You will then have all your sounds.   No FO call outs are available, as far as I know.

Thanks.  What about the Crew Messenger?  Does that actually make sound if its working?

The only Crew Messages that are available in the 727 are using the 2D Crew Message panel (SHIFT+5). There are no F/O call outs during takeoff and landing.

Thanks agian.  The Crew messenger lights but makes no calls.  I'm assuming this is the same issue.

Best,

Doug

They still don't work after reloading the aircraft? Try doing this - Open the sound.ini file, found in [FSX root folder]\Captain_Sim\727 and change SoundOffWhenSimIsSlew=1 to SoundOffWhenSimIsSlew=0 like this:

[Common]
Refresh.Time=10
Sound.Directory=Captain_Sim\727\sound
SoundOffWhenSimIsSlew=0
SoundOffWhenSimIsPaused=1
SoundOffWhenSimDialogIsOpen=1
SoundOffWhenSimSoundIsOff=1

[Common] is right at the top of the page, so it's easy to find.

Hope this helps.

Mark

Mark, thanks.  I have tried all of the following:

1.  Direct load from start menu
2.  Double load of aircraft
3.  Change the sound.ini file.  

None of this seems to work.  No Alt alert chime, no APU fire test bell (which I got the first time I used it, but not since then), Crew Messenger 2D panel also does not work.

I have installed the gauge fix recommended for the oscillation issue.

I'm sort of stumped.  

My Specs, if it helps:  i7920@3.4, Asus P6T, GTX 280, 6GB Ram, W7 Pro 64, FSX, SP2, FSX is on its own drive, other add-ons that are running: FSUIPC Registered, REX 2.0, UT2, GEX and UTX, Misc add-on airports)

Best,

Doug

After working through the problem, I think the sounds disappeared when I added the new gauge file.  Does that make sense to anyone?  And would I be better off to just to a reinstall at this point, then, and do without the gauge switch?  

Did you read through the other sound threads around?
http://www.captainsim.org/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1286037561

Here's a quote with a thing you haven't mentioned yet.

Quote:

Copy the msvcr71.dll file C:\Program Files\Windows\system32 folder and paste it into [Microsoft Flight Simulator X Root Folder]. If you can't find the file, go to Microsoft Download Center to get it.

Oops, I just saw that this tip is also mentioned in this thread on page one. But maybe you haven't tried it yet.

Thanks, I missed that, and the 727 is the only CS prooduct I have (I tend to be more of another company guy, but I wanted something vintage), so I don't read the 767 forums.  

I'll try that this evening or tomorrow.  This change does cause any other weird other effects on FSX, does it?  I'm always a little nervous about changes to my general FSX setup given the number of add-ons I have.

Doug

Hi Doug.

That change shouldn't cause you any problems. I keep forgetting about the msvcr71.dll fix because I never needed it. Sorry about that. I will try to remember it from now on. :-[

Mark

Thanks, guys, that was it.  Interesting you never had that issue, Mark, I use the same OS as you.   Also weird that I didn't have this problem at first and then did after I did the gauge file fix.  Man, that flight crew is very British.  ;)

Mark, can explain me why I lost my sound when I fly with "Real Environment Extreme Weather Engine"  active, or while I fly on IVAO, so when my FSX is connected to the network? I tried to load the aircraft twice, in this way I have the sound ok; but soon I start REX weather engine, the sounds disappear. Than I tried first to start REX weather engine, than to load the aircraft twice but the sounds won't work.
Can somebody help me????

alligator wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2011 at 12:33pm:

Mark, can explain me why I lost my sound when I fly with "Real Environment Extreme Weather Engine"  active, or while I fly on IVAO, so when my FSX is connected to the network? I tried to load the aircraft twice, in this way I have the sound ok; but soon I start REX weather engine, the sounds disappear. Than I tried first to start REX weather engine, than to load the aircraft twice but the sounds won't work. Can somebody help me????

I can't explain why that happens. I have REX2 and Overdrive, but I don't use the weather engine. For real weather I use HiFi Active Sky Evolution and I haven't noticed the sounds disappearing in that. Not that that means it doesn't, it just means I haven't noticed it, but that's because I sometimes use FSX real weather.

Mark

Markoz wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2011 at 1:43pm:

alligator wrote on Mar 2nd, 2011 at 12:33pm: Mark, can explain me why I lost my sound when I fly with "Real Environment Extreme Weather Engine"  active, or while I fly on IVAO, so when my FSX is connected to the network? I tried to load the aircraft twice, in this way I have the sound ok; but soon I start REX weather engine, the sounds disappear. Than I tried first to start REX weather engine, than to load the aircraft twice but the sounds won't work. Can somebody help me???? I can't explain why that happens. I have REX2 and Overdrive, but I don't use the weather engine. For real weather I use HiFi Active Sky Evolution and I haven't noticed the sounds disappearing in that. Not that that means it doesn't, it just means I haven't noticed it, but that's because I sometimes use FSX real weather. Mark

Thanks Mark, I hope this sounds boring issue will be resolved in the next SP. Do you Know if Captainsim are working for the 2.5?

Hi alligator

I just did a flight using REX2 Weather and I had to reload the aircraft (this is normal). The sounds work fine after the aircraft reload. :-?

Mark

Is Capt Sim ever gong to fix this? and do all their products have sound issues?

ottoramsaig wrote on Mar 4^th, 2011 at 4:33pm:

Is Capt Sim ever gong to fix this?

The question has been previously answered by our Customer Support.
Please check-in to Your Profile and use Customer Support > Search KB > KB# 2930.

Hello Catain Sim,
First of all i have read kb#2930.
I have the 727 2.4 ver installed in win7 64bits. I tried the alt+a+enter+enter and the slew thing in the .cfg and nothing. No sounds. I only didn´t try the msvcr71.dll because this is an old version of the c++ lybrary. I have installed the new ones for 64 bits systems (vcredist_x64.exe).
So here is the question: Do i need to have this old library (msvcr71.dll) to make 727 sounds work, or if i have the new one it´s ok?  As you say in the kb:

Quote:

If this is not the case you need to download latest Visual Studio C++ Redistributable Package from Microsoft Download Center and move msvcr71.dll into C:\Program Files\Windows\system32 folder.

Th newest package DON´T have this file: msvcr71.dll

I have also the c130,707,757 and they work without problems (IUncluding the sounds). I even tried the KSEA cold-and-dark without any results.

Any help on this is appreciated.
Thanks.

Hi Flavio.

Have you tried starting the 727 Cold-n-Dark (KSEA) directly from the Documents\Flight Simulator X files (or the equivalent in your language version)? I find that the sounds work correctly as soon as the flight starts in FSX when I do that.

If msvcr71.dll is not included in the latest Visual Studio C++ Redistributable Package, then maybe you do need to download the older version.

Mark

Hello,
The combination of the .DLL (The old version) and alt+a+enter+enter worked. But CS should do something about it. Make this dependent of an old component is something that not should be use.  Old components could do more harm than help in new systems. CS should think in a 2.5 version to correct this anoying issue.

Thanks Markoz for your help!

Dear Flavio!

I have the same sound problem with my airplane.
I also have the same OS as you do but the msvcr71.dll didn't help me. I've also tried all of what has been suggested in this thread before. Nothing helps! :(

Can you please give me a link to where you downloaded your .dll and where did you put your file?

THank you!

Hello,
Downloaded it from here:
http://www.dll-files.com/dllindex/dll-files.shtml?msvcr71

Put it in FSX root folder and in Windows/system32 folder.
Than open a flight with the 727 and reload the aircraft with Alt+a+enter+enter. It´s wrong but it worked for me.

Dear Flavio!
Thank you very much for your response!

While waiting for the reply I was still trying to fix this notorious sound problem myself. And finally I managed to get my sounds!!! :)

I will now describe how I did this. Probably, I did something extra or superfluous which was not really necessary but anyhow...

I downloaded two .dll files from here: http://www.addictivetips.com/windows-tips/fix-msvcp71-dll-and-msvcr71-dll-missing-error-in-windows-7/

For Win 7 64-bit users the description in the link sugests to place both dlls into Windows/SysWOW64 directory. I placed them not only into SysWOW64 folder but also to /System32. And, of course, to FSX root folder either.

Then I loaded the "Cleared for takeoff (KSEA)" flight and my sounds appeared!!! Even without a need to press Alt+A+Enter+Enter combination.

I hope my experience also contributes to the solution.  

Try to create a flight not using the CS pre-defined flights and look if the sound works at the first time, withou reloading the plane, please.
I think the 727 is directly msvcr71.dll dependent. And win7 64bits don´t have this file for default, not even installing the latest c++ library.

I can tell you, if I create my own flight from the FSX main menu the sounds do NOT work.

They appear only if I load the "default" CS "Cleared for takeoff (KSEA)" flight. Then I can change to whichever location, and the sounds are still on.

I also tried to make a touch-and-go over my native URWA airport.
Cabin sounds like sliding window or captain announcements work fine but somehow I cannot hear the beeping of the avionics, for example the NDB radio signal.

Is there a special switch on the panel that turns the Morse signals on/off or... the sound issue is not completely solved yet? :-?

wrote on Mar 6^th, 2011 at 5:31pm:

I can tell you, if I create my own flight from the FSX main menu the sounds do NOT work.

Yep! That´s what i´m talking about.  ;)

In fact, even if I press Alt+A+Enter+Enter in my own created flight the sounds still do not appear. They exist only if I load from the CS "default" flight at KSEA.  :-/ An only then I can go wherever I want with the sounds on.

Where is the trick? :D

AHA!!! Another probably useful observation.

If I save my own created flight and then re-open it as I would open the KSEA flight, the sounds are on!

wrote on Mar 6^th, 2011 at 6:08pm:

AHA!!! Another probably useful observation. If I save my own created flight and then re-open it as I would open the KSEA flight, the sounds are on!

I tried that, and the only thing that it does for me, is to open the Pilot and Co-Pilot windows. It does not give me my sound back. I still have to reload the 727 to get the sound working. :-/

Mark

Why can't CS correct this bug? It seems to have been out there for some time. I remember having CS 727 a few years back and never had a problem with sounds.

Yes, the 727 reloading is one big thing on my list too. Couldn't cure it so far, all the tricks I've read about or tried myself didn't work.
She uses a sound gauge like the other planes too, reading the sound.ini, but I can only get her fully initialized when she gets reloaded, which messes up some of my ATC addons.

So I can only fly her with (my) ATC and without e. g. Switch sounds or with those sounds and without that ATC.
Maybe they fix her up to the state of the 707 which works just fine on the very first loading process.
I'm currently on a workaround for that ATC solution since I really like the plane.
[edit]Ok, I've found one (for the ATC, not the sound problem!), but this item could still be fixed in my eyes, no doubt.[/edit]

The sound issue was not present in v2.3. So something changed in v2.4 to cause this. I just don't know what it is that changed.

Mark

All this reloading jazz, how about simply fixing it CS. >:(

Absolutely, otto. But no need to look like this  >:(, use this instead  :-/.
The current reload thing is a workaround only, no doubt there. It e. g. still messes up some other things and I've found out that you can reload that thing in at least two ways.
One causes the radar to fail and some switches around to be in some very "cold&dark" state. Also, the "L" key and the one for the AP don't drive the VC switches then, but the functions itself are working.
To clarify: Without that reloading, everything works and behaves fine, except the click/warning sounds.

So, yes, a sound fix which enables the sounds like on the 707 or B-52 (meaning, on the very first loading) would be highly appreciated.  :)

For some reason when I reload, it opens the cockpit windows.  Now, this would be pretty bad if I were actually at FL300, but as I'm at my desk, I just close them.  Kind of a weird thing, but minor in the grand scheme of things.    

Ah, windows open inflight. I said this once before, but it always makes me smile when thinking about Mr. Goldfinger "exiting" the plane in that James Bond movie.

Not so smiling fact: There was a (real) incident where the Captain of the aircraft was sucked out after his windscreen collapsed. They held him back from actually falling, so he "surfed" the skies while his Co-Pilot managed to land.
Talking about being at cruise FL there, so he had some interesting minutes and actually survived this happening.
http://www.nytimes.com/1990/06/11/world/4-miles-over-britain-pilot-is-sucked-out-crew-holds-on-tight.html

Back to the sounds, I've tried your suggestion, Diсk Everhard, but it didn't give me back the sounds. So the reloading still stays the only workaround for me.
Seems like this sound gauge on the 727 needs to be initialized twice to start working.

Guys, I'm just laughing my a off again (I did this quite often in the last few days, makes me worry), because I can offer you a very unconventional and "rough" workaround for getting the sounds on the 727 on the very first loading.
Downsides? Well, you have to own the 707 too. That's no downside! This is another great plane!
I haven't tested stability and such things, but it works so far.

HOW ITS DONE

1) surf to the \Gauges directory of FSX, look for Captain_Sim.p727.sound.gau there and make a backup of it by renaming or something.
2) now surf to \SimObjects\Airplanes\CS_B707-300\panel, look for Captain_Sim.x707.sound.gau and copy it to the \Gauges directory of FSX.
3) now rename that Captain_Sim.x707.sound.gau in the \Gauges directory to Captain_Sim.p727.sound.gau
4) done!

Load the 727, FSX might ask for permission on loading that one gauge. Allow it!

You will see some error messages on top of your screen for some seconds, stating that some sound IDs are already there. Don't care about them, they only last some seconds and your sounds are working now!  8-)

Give some feedback in this thread if problems arise. As said, I haven't tested much and maybe this isn't a stable solution at all.  :-/
If I get some "working!" replies here in the thread, I'll setup a ticket for this workaround.

[edit]Works fine on my system. Those few seconds of error messages (it's shown like ATC text, so no big deal) soon pass by and you can enjoy the 707 click sounds (and windows for example) all the way, on the first loading of the ac.
I've just had a complete flight and didn't experience any problems.[/edit]

CoolP wrote on Mar 16^th, 2011 at 5:56pm:

Absolutely, otto. But no need to look like this  >:(, use this instead  :-/. The current reload thing is a workaround only, no doubt there. It e. g. still messes up some other things and I've found out that you can reload that thing in at least two ways. One causes the radar to fail and some switches around to be in some very "cold&dark" state. Also, the "L" key and the one for the AP don't drive the VC switches then, but the functions itself are working. To clarify: Without that reloading, everything works and behaves fine, except the click/warning sounds. So, yes, a sound fix which enables the sounds like on the 707 or B-52 (meaning, on the very first loading) would be highly appreciated.  :)

Thanks for the reply. I know you folks will work it out. Still glad I went back to CS.  Q. Are there any major issues with the C130? Figured that will be next on my list of things to have  :)

ottoramsaig wrote on Mar 17^th, 2011 at 1:13pm:

Q. Are there any major issues with the C130? Figured that will be next on my list of things to have  :)

The only problems I have with the C-130 X-perience is :-

1. I can't change the cockpit light to Red or White. No matter which color I choose, they always show as Green. :(
2. The sounds go weird every now and then. For example. If I start the engines using the ATM, once I get #3 & #4 started and turn the ATM OFF, it gets very quiet in the cockpit until engine #1 or #2 is started, then it returns to normal.

@CoolP. That does fix the sound problem, but I'm still trying to see if I can spot something different between v2.3 and v2.4 that could cause this.

Mark

Yes, I would like to know to why 2.3 worked and 2.4 does not.
Since I don't have a 2.3 installer anymore, I can't compare things. But even if I could, I'm no gauge mechanics, so my analysis would be not more than skin-deep.

Glad to hear that the 707 on 727 thing works. I had around four flights now and apart from the mentioned "ID already exists" messages for some seconds after loading, everything is there and working, even with the clearer 707 click sounds, so the fidelity even entered a new level.
Surely not to be called solution this whole thing, but I'm ok so far since I get a sounding 727 on the first load which doesn't mix up my offline ATC solution.

If the gauge turns out to be a GAU or DLL file, I won't be able to see inside it. :(

A lot of the gauges in the CS 727 CAB files are XML, so I might find something.
I was wondering if it was something like what happens with the CIVA INS and the config line that triggers it.

Mark

You are right, Mark, most gauges are standard FSX xml and one can open and read them easily. But this one seems to be of another kind.
However, I'm ok with the operation now and since this "fix" (it's no such thing, but a workaround only) is public now, CS can look into that gauge for the 2.5 version of the 727.

Dropping a ticket today, so the need for it is in the system.[edit] Done[/edit]

Is anyone else missing the marker sounds on the 727? I wonder if this has something to do with this fix now.
They work fine on the 707, but my 727 stays silent on the Markers.
I've tried the toggling the VC switches and the FSX internal setting with Ctrl+3, only lights, no sounds.

CoolP wrote on Mar 19^th, 2011 at 6:49am:

You are right, Mark, most gauges are standard FSX xml and one can open and read them easily. But this one seems to be of another kind. However, I'm ok with the operation now and since this "fix" (it's no such thing, but a workaround only) is public now, CS can look into that gauge for the 2.5 version of the 727. Dropping a ticket today, so the need for it is in the system.[edit] Done[/edit] Is anyone else missing the marker sounds on the 727? I wonder if this has something to do with this fix now. They work fine on the 707, but my 727 stays silent on the Markers. I've tried the toggling the VC switches and the FSX internal setting with Ctrl+3, only lights, no sounds.

Marker sounds work for me simply by switching the "MKR" switch down at the FE's audio panel.  I do not need to use the keyboard command.  Also, the IDENT feature works as well if I use the switches at the FE audio panel.  I do not have your sound workaround installed, maybe it has something to do with that.

Hi.

I've looked at many of the gauges and still have many more to go (there are a lot!), I haven't found any differences yet. The Captain_Sim.p727.sound.gau is the same one used in v2.3, as are all the gauges I have looked at up to now. There are 2 new gauges, the 2D WxR (the free, included one from Captain Sim). There must be some other differences, but I haven't found them yet. The dates and sizes so far are the same in them all.

Mark

Haven't tried the FE's panel so far, only looked on the Captain's side. I also thought that the FSX key command will override any VC setting.
But thanks for that input, audiohavoc, I will try again and also revert back to the faulty gauge file to see if the missing Markers are bound to my small modification.
Otherwise, I will live with the lights only and enjoy the rest of the cockpit sounds on the first load.

Mark, seems like you are investigating now, huh?
By the way, are you getting the Marker sounds on your system?

[edit]Thanks, audiohavoc, I finally found the marker sounds. You are right, the FE panel toggles them. Loud and clear now.  :)[/edit]

OK. Here is how I went.

There are a few gauge changes in 727-100 v2.4, I replaced them with the ones from v2.3, one at a time, then in different combinations. Each change required FSX to be closed and then restarted. It was a case of: Make gauge changes, start FSX, load CS727, Fly, FSX off, make gauge changes, start FSX, load CS727, Fly, FSX off...over and over again :D). I never got the sound working that way. I always had to reload the aircraft. No idea why.

So...... I went back to CS727-100 v2.3. Start FSX, load CS727, fly, no sound! What???? No matter what I did, I had the same problem. I had to reload the 727 to hear the sounds.
So.......I went all the way back to v2.2. Start FSX, load CS727, fly, no sound! What on earth is going on here? Same deal as v2.3 and v2.4.

The only thing I never did, was the editing the registry. I really don't want to do that.

Mark

Huge efforts there, Mark. Really adorable.
I think that at the point where you would have to run through registry changes, efforts should be discontinued though.

I hope that the gauge fix points the devs in the right direction to fix it in 2.5. My ticket was processed, so the fact is a known one.
Back to flying, Buddy.  :)

Replacing the new (v2.4) gauges with the old (v2.3) changed nothing. The gauges themselves worked fine, they had no effect on the way the sound behaves.

Version 2.4 (25 Feb 2010) was not very far behind the release of version 2.3 (26 Dec 2009). I do not remember the having the sound not working upon loading in v2.3. Because it was only two months between them, I could be wrong. :-/

Mark

[edit]The dates I used are the dates that show up in the Windows Explorer details view, the date that I downloaded them, which will be close to the actual dates of the releases.[/edit]

I'm trying to get my cockpit sound working in the 727. The msvcr71.dll is not showing up in system 32 folder so I'm trying to find it to install it. I went to Micro Soft site.The instructions for the KB said to down load the latest Visual Studio C++. Couldn't find that one specifically. There are many different downloads that are close to that. It's a bit confusing. Does anyone know where the get the msvcr71.dll on Microsoft site or any other resource for that matter. All the tricks I've been reading about just don't work for me. Must be the absence of the msvcr71.dll

I've tried everything in these articles to get the sound to come on and it just won't. Loaded cold and dark from the start menu, then reloaded, changed the line of code in sound file as suggested. Still nothing. I'm running Windows 7. I don't have msvcr71.dll in system 32 folder. Some have suggested its not nessicary to get sound.
None the less, I'm trying to find msvcr71.dll on Mircrosoft's site but can't. Does anyone have a reliable source to obtain msvcr71.dll or know where to find it on the Microsoft site. thanks-

Brian,

From personal experience as another relative newcomer I will tell you point blank that nothing worked until I did the .dll add from the MS website.  Without that, all the other stuff did nothing.

And here's where I found it:  http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/en/default.aspx

Doug

From personal experience as another relative newcomer I will tell you point blank that nothing worked until I did the .dll add from the MS website.  Without that, all the other stuff did nothing.
It wasn't like that for me. After building my new system, reformatting my C Drive, reinstalling Windows 7 Professional 64bit, then installing FSX & Acceleration followed by installing all my Captain Sim products, the sound in my 727 still had this issue.  got my sounds working normally by either reloading the aircraft or starting FSX by loading the 727 Cold-n-Dark (KSEA) or 727 Cleared for takeoff (KSEA) directly from the Documents\Flight Simulator X files and bypassing the FSX Start Menu.

I do have msvcr71.dll installed on my computer. It's in C:\Windows\SysWOW64\Msvcr71.dll. The file is dated Sunday, ‎8 ‎August ‎2010, ‏‎1:02:50 AM and Size: 340 KB (348,160 bytes) (Size on disk: 340 KB (348,160 bytes)).
That date is the same day that I reinstalled Window 7 on my new system. I never downloaded and installed the msvcr71.dll on my system.

Mark

Where can I find THE msvcr71.dll to cut and paste into the system 32 folder?

I've looked on MS site but can't find it listed specifically. There are many files that are close to that by name. Is it contained in the Windows 7 Service pack 1? Again, I can't find it anywhere by name

BrianG wrote on Mar 28^th, 2011 at 6:07am:

I've looked on MS site but can't find it listed specifically. There are many files that are close to that by name. Is it contained in the Windows 7 Service pack 1? Again, I can't find it anywhere by name

Did you search for it on your hard disk drive(s) your computer? Primarily the C:\Windows folder? You might already have it. If you see in my previous reply, mine was found in the C:\Windows\SysWOW64 folder.

I don't know if you have Windows 7 32bit or 64bit but as you can see, mine isn't in the the windows system32 folder and I'm using Windows 7 64bit.

Also. I did not find it by doing a search at the Microsoft download center.

Mark

Hi Mark,
Yes, I did look in the C:\Windows\SysWOW64 folder and didn't find it. I am running windows 7 64 bit. So you have to have that .dll in system 32 before the sound will work?
Doug, where on Microsoft's site did you find it?

Gday guys Just a point of interest, that sound problems is also present in the boxed version from another company    cya    Jeff

BrianG wrote on Mar 28^th, 2011 at 2:41pm:

Hi Mark, Yes, I did look in the C:\Windows\SysWOW64 folder and didn't find it. I am running windows 7 64 bit. So you have to have that .dll in system 32 before the sound will work?

Hi Brian.

Sorry that I missed your question there. I only know that the one I have in my C:\Windows\SysWOW64 seems to have been installed at the time that I upgrade my computer and did a clean reinstall of everything. I have never downloaded and installed msvcr71.dll, on any of my computer systems, since I started buying Captain Sim add-on aircraft. So it was either installed when I installed Windows 7 Professional 64bit, or I installed something else that installed it. Sorry I can't offer you more than that. If you want to email me, I'll send you a copy of the version I have.

Mark

For all those struggling with the sound issue, I followed the instructions in KB#2930  as I didn't have the proper .dll file in my system 32 folder. I then took the advice of many in various threads on this subject and double loaded the 727 and the sound now works. A few steps to take but doing those things will get the sound working. Thanks to Mark and others as well.

When I bought the CS B727 I expected visuals and sound.  If I bought a nice looking car only to find out that the stereo did not work, I would expect it fixed in a reasonable amount of time.
And one other thing.......I do not understand this re-load BS.

No one huh? Its amazing that this thread was started over a year and a half ago and still no repair from CS (very disapointed) I wonder how CS would feel if I asked for a refund or even a partial one.

Good news is that I purchase C130 and so far all the sounds are there.

The way I see it, this plane is SO good, I am willing to spend the extra 10 seconds to load a second time for the sounds to work right.  I would be willing to do it 10 times if that's what it took.  That's how much I love this plane.

I also had to buy FSX Acceleration to get the AP pitch control to work as it is supposed to.  I'd rather not have had to do that, but I still don't regret it.

Hi David.

Create a keyboard shortcut (I use CTRL+R) for reloading the aircraft. It is almost instantaneous. It sure beats using ALT > A > A > ENTER, which takes that ten seconds. Therefore it costs almost no time to get your sounds working. ;)

Mark

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Now we are talking:)

Nice tip there, Markoz!  That does speed it up a bit.

Good Day,
I'm one of those who lost their interior sounds in V2.4. In fact, it was that version that was available when I purchased the aircraft, so I've not had them from the start. I have tried to do the reload twice method of getting them back, with mixed success (more often than not it doesn't work), and a few other suggestions offered here. I've not yet found a reliable method. I also lose my Avionics after about 15 minutes or so of flying, as also has been noted here.

My question is, is there a patch on the way to fix these issues? I'm not flying the aircraft at the moment because it frankly, takes too much effort to get the machine up and running as it should be. I would LIKE to fly it, and would hope that since a patch disabled important features, a new patch should be issued to re-enable them again.

Thanks much - I look forward to your reply on this. I will admit, I've put my order for the 707 and 737-200 on hold pending a timely fix for the 727. Thanks again.

Please see Calendar of Updates. We do continue development of the 707, 727, 757, 767 and C-130 series as our key products.

Thanks for your reply Tanya. I did check the link you posted prior to posting my message. It really just says that V2.4 was released in February, which I already knew. While it does state that updates are ongoing, I guess because V2.4 broke a key component of the aircraft, word would have come down by now regarding a fix for that part that was broken. These are complicated aircraft for sure and things can happen that are unexpected when a patch is issued, but I was hoping that anything broken by a patch would have priority and be fixed soonest, or we'd be given some assurance that a fix was being worked on. I've not seen that as of yet.

I'll continue to wait and monitor the situation for a "patch to fix the patch" before proceeding with further purchases.

Thanks again for your reply.

The lost avionics shouldn't happen by design, but some guys had a workaround by tweaking the aircraft.cfg with unlimited electrics available.
Search the forums on this, if you like.

The sound thing was another workaround, using the CS 707 sound gauge which enables all sounds on the first load.
I'm with you there, awaiting 2.5 to fix quite some things, but in the meantime maybe it helps you.
Check this thread, reply #84. http://www.captainsim.org/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1264321545/75

My workaround was to add electric_always_available=1 in the [electrical] section of the aircraft.cfg. Like this:

[electrical]
electric_always_available=1
max_battery_voltage = 24.0
generator_alternator_voltage = 30.0
max_generator_alternator_amps = 400.0

I don't use it now. I guess I must be doing everything "right" when starting the 727 because I no longer lose the avionics after 15 minutes or so. ;)

Mark

Yes, that was the thing I was talking about.
The guys with the registered FSUIPC also can use 'unlimited battery' to achieve the same.

CoolP wrote on Jul 30^th, 2011 at 7:34pm:

The guys with the registered FSUIPC also can use 'unlimited battery' to achieve the same.

That's a handy feature of the registered version of FSUIPC, but the only aircraft that I find it necessary to use it on is the Flight1 Cessna Mustang. I hate to think of how many times the battery went flat while I was trying to set up my flight plan. I just have to remember to turn it on for that aircraft (which of often don't). :(

It also came in handy when I was having the 727 "losing avionics" problem.

Mark

You are right, Mark, that Cessna was THE plane to actually really ask for that feature.
The default FSX battery life is modelled way to short, so the only workaround for e. g. entering the plan and setting up the G1000 in general is to have a FSUIPC battery or to start the engines, which, in my eyes, would be a total loss of rw feeling.

Maybe, because we have that option enabled, the CS 727 also profits from it. I never tried running FSX without the FSUIPC battery since then.

Mine is set to 1, which is the default setting. At the moment, my Cessna Mustang isn't installed, so because I can't select it, I don't have to change it yet.

Mark

Then you have proven her to work in that aspect.

Regarding the Mustang, she's way to easy to operate after some flights in the old school birds, isn't she?
Decades of technical improvements render it somehow boring from time to time, that's why I always return to the steam gauge birds. Also, that's why I'm looking forward to 2.5 on the 727 of course.  :D

CoolP wrote on Jul 31^st, 2011 at 7:26pm:

Then you have proven her to work in that aspect.

Lou was the one who showed me that it did work correctly. You can read about it here: http://www.captainsim.org/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1267897624/15#15.

Mark

Looks normal to me, maybe I'm on the right side too.
But since I'm using the FSUIPC tweak, I wouldn't even know when not.  :D

I can't believe, I am writing this post. I  have to reinstall 727-100_2400
After the installation, I lost  Interior Sounds .What ever I tried. I cannot get sound back. Before, if I reload the 727 twice , sounds comes back not this time.

Here I go again, Any advise. :-[
Sanal

Hi Sanal.

I would suggest that you download the csp721_2400.exe installer again, maybe it is corrupt for some strange reason. :(

Mark

Mark,
I dowloaded from CS, I will do it again.
Sanal

I deleted all727-100 files and redownload from csp721_2400.exe install with  UTC OFF and second time with UTC ON. Still no sound.

I wonder if CS made some changes or fix in 721_2400, there fore sound lost again. :-/

THat is strange, same 721-2400 was working two weeks ago, now with new installation sound no longer there. :o

We have made no changes. This confirms the sound issue is system specific.

Problem solved.

msvrc71.dll  file was missing in 727-100 2.4 installation. I downloaded and put into system32 and FSX root folder as described in  KB (Knowledge Base):21, Then I started FSX and two times  selected 727-100
SOUNDS was back  :D

hallo simmers,
i cant hear them.....i can only let the panel crew's light switch on.... how could i fix it?

It's an issue with the sound that has yet to be fixed. At the beginning of every FSX session with the 727 after it loads, reset it. You can do this by pressing CRTL+;  

it workssssssssssss
thanks a lot  :D

lucatrader wrote on Aug 14^th, 2011 at 5:04pm:

it workssssssssssss thanks a lot  :D

You're welcome  ;D

I've an issue with my 727 cockpit sounds. I have noticed that in the Captain sim folders with all my other CS aircraft there is a file called cs.sound.dil . I also own the 707, 737, 757 and 767. If someone could give me some help in simple terms for a dummy it would be great. I'm not a computer geek so keep it simple.  :)

So what is the problem, you are not getting sound in the cockpit or is it something else?

Sorry I missed that. I read it but for some reason my mind did not process the info.

Here is what you need to do.

1. Go into Microsoft Flight on your hard drive and find the Captain Sim Folder...

Wait computer problems, be right back.

So sorry about that. I went to write the instructions and discovered that my computer did not recognize my SSD so I could not get the file or the line you need to adjust. Here now are the instructions to fix the problem.

1. Go to where Flight Sim is installed and find the find the folder Captain_Sim.
2. In that folder you will see another folder named 727.
3. There you will find a file named Sound.ini

4. Open that file and look for the line that says:
SoundOffWhenSimIsSlew=1
Change the "1" to the number "0" zero

5. Save the file
6. Start flight sim and when you are in the plane reload the plane. I think the default key is CTRL + R (the control button and the R button pressed at the same time). You can also go into the flight sim menu and you will see the reload option there.

That should get the sound going. Each time you load the plane you will need to reload the plane to get the sound back.

EdwardS wrote on May 22^nd, 2012 at 4:27pm:

So sorry about that. I went to write the instructions and discovered that my computer did not recognize my SSD so I could not get the file or the line you need to adjust. Here now are the instructions to fix the problem. 1. Go to where Flight Sim is installed and find the find the folder Captain_Sim. 2. In that folder you will see another folder named 727. 3. There you will find a file named Sound.ini 4. Open that file and look for the line that says: SoundOffWhenSimIsSlew=1 Change the "1" to the number "0" zero 5. Save the file 6. Start flight sim and when you are in the plane reload the plane. I think the default key is CTRL + R (the control button and the R button pressed at the same time). You can also go into the flight sim menu and you will see the reload option there. That should get the sound going. Each time you load the plane you will need to reload the plane to get the sound back.

Afraid that does not make any difference. Still just default FSX sounds.

You might need the msvcr71.dll file to get the sounds working correctly (if you haven't already tried it). ;)
Searching through this current topic, you should find enough results on what to do and where to get it.

Mark

thought i'd throw my two cents in since i have been having the same problems. ive tried searching google and microsoft download center as i have seen in this thread but nothing, i found it on microsoft.com search instead of the download center.

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_other-gaming/msvcr71dll-missing/2b2ff4ca-4866-45cf-b9d0-4f84c470c9af?auth=1

All sorted thank you very much gents. :D :)

After reinstalling my 727-100 and adding Matt_Alt_Mods I get a bing bang from windows,I think? Like the error sound.

I c/p the Mscvr71.dll from a folder in a saved temp folder I have.
I just got a new used computer with windows pro. I checked jsut now:
c:\Windows\Sys\Windows32 For Msvcr71.dll and it isn't there.
I need advice with this? Do I copy the one I put into my main FSX folder or download a new one? And where to put it??
I just loaded from 727 flights( KSEA) and had to reload the plane by Crtl+Shift+R to get the sounds; Is this right? When it loaded it was cold and dark, I started engines,but no cockpit sounds??? Then I realized I didn't have battery power on on the FO panel, after I switched that on and everything lit up I got the sounds.
I did add the line:

[electrical]
electric_always_available=1


berlopez :D

I've another question that comes to mind after flying the 737 and the 707. They both have awesome engine sounds. The 727 lacks. you don't get that same sound as with the 737. Has anyone updated sounds or is there an addon package obtainable somewhere? It would just add to making the experience even greater.

Lee Park wrote on Aug 24^th, 2012 at 8:36am:

I've another question that comes to mind after flying the 737 and the 707. They both have awesome engine sounds. The 727 lacks. you don't get that same sound as with the 737. Has anyone updated sounds or is there an addon package obtainable somewhere? It would just add to making the experience even greater.

the 737 has TSS sound set i have the TSS set for the 707, they have a 727 set but its for FS9 and i dont know if it would be compatible or easy to convert.

Eric.M wrote on Aug 27^th, 2012 at 5:31pm:

the 737 has TSS sound set i have the TSS set for the 707, they have a 727 set but its for FS9 and i dont know if it would be compatible or easy to convert.

I have the TSS engine soundpacks for the 767 (GE, PW and RR) which were made for FS9 and they work fine with the CS767 in FSX. I think that the soundpack for the 727 will also work fine in FSX as well. ;)

Had a look and the TSS sounds, looks really interesting. In my experience sounds are generally workable from fs9 to fsx.

I got it to work with the sound.ini edit and reloading the plane as well. Thanks!

Just a note to say that bought the TSS JT8 soundset for the 727. It is for FS9 but works just fine in FSX. I highly reccommend it. Coupled with the CS Sounds it is as good as the 737, which, soundwise, I think is about the best model CS has produced thus far. Thanks for the suggestion guys.

Now I'm having naother issue, My barometer shows 200' above the call: It call 200' whne the needle is ahowing 400' and so on...? Deespite me pressing the "B" key to set the pressure that is given by ATC, normally std. 29.92...? Not only with the 727 with other planes...Stock as well?
Any advice???

The standard barometric pressure of 29.92 inHg or 101.3 Kpa is used on all aircraft above 18000' (normally) to ensure everyone's altimeter displays the same altitude. So when you are landing, the baro pressure at the airport is not usually ever 29.92 inHg. When you set the DH it is usually based on the radar alitmeter which does not use the baro pressure, in order to see changes in terrain more precisely. I hope this helps?  ;)

Berlopez wrote on Jan 9^th, 2013 at 5:06pm:

Now I'm having naother issue, My barometer shows 200' above the call: It call 200' whne the needle is ahowing 400' and so on...? Deespite me pressing the "B" key to set the pressure that is given by ATC, normally std. 29.92...? Not only with the 727 with other planes...Stock as well? Any advice???

Hi Bernardo,

The image below is of an approach to KDEN RW07 (5430FT field elevation).
The aircraft is currently 400FT (#2) above the ground at an altitude of approximately 5,750FT (#4) with barometric pressure setting of 29.92 (#3) in of mercury.


Altimeter: Items 3 & 4
#3 is automatically adjusted by pressing 'B' and will only effect #4.
This will not have any impact on your 200FT callout.

Note: FSX defaults to 200FT Decision Height (DH)
Radio Altimeter: Items 1, 2 and 5
Turning knob (#5) will change the DH bug (#1) which is currently set to 200FT.

The bad news is that the knob (#5) doesn't work on the CS727.
So if you adjust the knob (#5) so the DH bug (#1) reads 400FT, your 'Minimums' callout will still be at 200FT.

http://i823.photobucket.com/albums/zz155/fsxpaul/FSX/CS727_DH_zps9c40f841.jpg

You must have a problem with your 727 Paul. The DH adjustment knob works fine on mine (for both the Pilot and Co-Pilot sides).

http://i669.photobucket.com/albums/vv58/Markoz958/CS727_radar_alt.jpg

The only problem I have is that if you adjust one, it changes both, and there is a difference in their settings. If I set the Pilot's radar altimeter to 200 feet, the Co-Pilot's radar altimeter shows 300 feet (see next pic). If I change the Pilot's to 400 feet, then the Co-Pilot's reads about 900 feet!

http://i669.photobucket.com/albums/vv58/Markoz958/CS727_radar_alt2.jpg

Weird! :-/

Markoz wrote on Jan 13^th, 2013 at 2:47am:

You must have a problem with your 727 Paul. The DH adjustment knob works fine on mine (for both the Pilot and Co-Pilot sides). The only problem I have is that if you adjust one, it changes both, and there is a difference in their settings. If I set the Pilot's radar altimeter to 200 feet, the Co-Pilot's radar altimeter shows 300 feet (see next pic). If I change the Pilot's to 400 feet, then the Co-Pilot's reads about 900 feet! Weird! :-/

Sorry, it's apparent I wasn't clear enough. My knob spins just fine  ;)

Bernardo (Berlopez) is using a callout sound gauge that is tied to the DH. My point was...no matter how much you turn the knob, it will not pass the value you set on the DH bug to FSX, thus it's stuck at 200FT.

In the case of your image, you've set it to 400FT but the 'Minimums' callout will still occur at 200FT because the knob is broken.


I'm currently updating the 727 V-One gauge that will allow proper DH adjustment.
And also I will be uploading an altitude callout gauge that will work on any aircraft.

wrote on Jan 13^th, 2013 at 4:51am:

Markoz wrote on Jan 13th, 2013 at 2:47am: You must have a problem with your 727 Paul. The DH adjustment knob works fine on mine (for both the Pilot and Co-Pilot sides). The only problem I have is that if you adjust one, it changes both, and there is a difference in their settings. If I set the Pilot's radar altimeter to 200 feet, the Co-Pilot's radar altimeter shows 300 feet (see next pic). If I change the Pilot's to 400 feet, then the Co-Pilot's reads about 900 feet! Weird! :-/ Sorry, it's apparent I wasn't clear enough. My knob spins just fine  ;) Bernardo (Berlopez) is using a callout sound gauge that is tied to the DH. My point was...no matter how much you turn the knob, it will not pass the value you set on the DH bug to FSX, thus it's stuck at 200FT. In the case of your image, you've set it to 400FT but the 'Minimums' callout will still occur at 200FT because the knob is broken. I'm currently updating the 727 V-One gauge that will allow proper DH adjustment. And also I will be uploading an altitude callout gauge that will work on any aircraft.

Ahhh. Sorry Paul. My bad. :-[

Just ignore my previous reply then. ;)

HI All Thank you for replying to this thread. If I recall correctly Matt writes on his read-me about his gauge:
3) IMPORTANT: The decision height on the revised Radioaltimeter gauge CANNOT be set using the knob (this is out of my control). Simply assign a couple of keys (I chose num7 and num1) to increase and decrease Decision Height and you will see the yellow bug move.

My Alt Alert isn't sounding when I approach the set altitude, 1000' before? I have FSX Paul V-1 and Matts' Alt callout installed and they all sound,IT DOES SOUND WHEN I SET THE ALTITUDE WHEN i START A FLIGHT, bUT NOT ONCE i AM IN THE AIR? The only one I am missing is the Dooing when approaching the set altitude? The sound.wav is present in the sound folder in the Captainsim folder in the main FSX tree.ONCE IN THE AIR THE SOUNDS STOP SOUNDING? Before I start a flight in Free Flight I test the sounds they sound alt.Alert and seat belt.Then Once in the air they go quite? :o

FIXED! I had forgotten to change the line in the .ini file:SoundOffWhenSimIsSlew=0

Berlopez

I have a problem in that if my weather is set to anything other than clear skies, the sounds will never work, no matter how much you reset the aircraft.  If the weather is clear skies, it will work, and then if I switch it to any other weather besides clear, then the sounds go away.  Captain Sim tech support has been less than helpful with this.  At first I thought it was only when I selected REX weather, however I discovered it is any weather.  So what fun is flying this bird if I can only do it in the clear sunny skies, or a clear night?? >:(  

CSdoesnotwork wrote on Oct 3^rd, 2013 at 1:03pm:

I have a problem in that if my weather is set to anything other than clear skies, the sounds will never work, no matter how much you reset the aircraft.  If the weather is clear skies, it will work, and then if I switch it to any other weather besides clear, then the sounds go away.  Captain Sim tech support has been less than helpful with this.  At first I thought it was only when I selected REX weather, however I discovered it is any weather.  So what fun is flying this bird if I can only do it in the clear sunny skies, or a clear night?? >:(

You are right! I never noticed that before. Or maybe I had previously put it down to forgetting to reload the aircraft to fix the sound problem!

Currently I am having problems, with some of my Captain Sim products, that I have not had before. Maybe it's time for me to uninstall, then reinstall FSX and Acceleration. It would be a lot of work, but it just might fix the issues I'm having now.

What issues are you having that are "new?"  :-?

Hi Lou.

What issues are you having that are "new?"  :-?
When I first load the CS 727 into FSX, the sounds don't work (mainly the altitude alert and the cabin announcements), so I have to reload the aircraft to get them working. <- This is NOT new!
If I change the weather from Fair Weather or Clear skies (clears all weather) to anything else, the sound disappears again. The same applies if I use AS2012 (which I use for real world weather generation). <- This is new to me. I never noticed this until I checked with the problems that CSdoesnotwork mentioned in their post. That means it either didn't used to happen to me. OR. I had attributed it to my "forgetting" to reload the 727 into FSX, when in actual fact I had reloaded it into FSX.

http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/338/8l90.jpg  :)

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I always try to keep calm and carry on. ;) However. I think I'm overdue for a complete uninstall and reinstall of FSX and all my addons! Because it's such a big task, I keep putting it off. :D

Hello,
I have a problem. I have no sound switches, APU, etc. Other sounds work. I'll try everything that was in this topic. I do not know ...

Please help.

Win7 X64 SP1
FSX Acc
Aircrafts: CS 707, 727, 737, 757

My experience with the cockpit sounds was that they were broken with the the 2.4 update.  The only way I could get them back was to get the sound gauge from the 2.3 version and use it with the 2.4 install.  Now I can get sound by using the cfg edit and reloading the aircraft as described elsewhere in the forums.  Using the 707 gauge wasn't workable for me.  All those error messages and the sound played at the wrong volume.  

I have no sounds, no matter what. I don't really notice once I'm going, but even so, such a small outstanding problem is the kind of thing that I find myself countering in forum rants against Captain Sim.

Tim Capps wrote on Jan 11^th, 2014 at 8:47pm:

I have no sounds, no matter what. I don't really notice once I'm going, but even so, such a small outstanding problem is the kind of thing that I find myself countering in forum rants against Captain Sim.

In Win8/Win8.1, I cannot get the sounds working no matter what I have tried either.

But in Win7, I make one change to the sound.ini file:

from this:
[Common]
Refresh.Time=10
Sound.Directory=Captain_Sim\727\sound
SoundOffWhenSimIsSlew=1
SoundOffWhenSimIsPaused=1
SoundOffWhenSimDialogIsOpen=1
SoundOffWhenSimSoundIsOff=1

to this:

[Common]
Refresh.Time=10
Sound.Directory=Captain_Sim\727\sound
SoundOffWhenSimIsSlew=0
SoundOffWhenSimIsPaused=1
SoundOffWhenSimDialogIsOpen=1
SoundOffWhenSimSoundIsOff=1

and then when I load the 727 into FSX, all I need to do is reload it and the sounds start working like they should.

I have CTRL+SHIF+R assigned to Aircraft (reload) in SETTINGS > CONTROLS > BUTTONS/KEYS.

Here is a video of when the 727 is first loaded into FSX, then reloaded to get the sounds working:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waxNlvVZKFs

Even with the edit you mentioned, it doesn't work. Also, ctl+shift+R doesn't do anything. I have tried the RESET option from the drop-down menu, and CHOOSING the same 727. Multiple times. No difference. I have tried opening the COLD-AND-DARK flight directly.

What I do have is a loud noise that sounds like a fan, and "phantom engine" sounds. When I load that flight, I get a loud noise plus the above-mentioned fan noise. After a couple of seconds it stops, and there is silence. As soon as I flip the battery switch to the "on" position the loud fan noise returns. But there are still no clicks or ding-dongs.

I am using the TSS engine sounds, but I have the same installed in three different airplanes, including the CS 737-200, and the 727 is the only one giving me trouble, so I don't think that's it. Anyway, this is the same near-universal problem people have with this airplane.

[Rant deleted.]

So, any other ideas?

When I said: "I have CTRL+SHIF+R assigned to Aircraft (reload) in SETTINGS > CONTROLS > BUTTONS/KEYS." I meant that I added a keyboard shortcut for Aircraft (reload), and I assigned CTRL+SHIFT+R to do it - By default, there is no keyboard shortcut for it, so you must assign one yourself.


Quote:

So, any other ideas?

Unfortunately, no. I had mine stop working a while ago, (back in October 2013) and I said I needed to uninstall and then reinstall FSX to fix it. Well I did that and it did fixed it. Not only that, but it fixed a few strange issues that had snuck into my Captain Sim aircraft. :o

I have uninstalled and reinstalled multiple times. Nick provided some help that almost has me there. Copy the 707 sound gauge, rename it to the same name as the 727 one and drop it into the gauges folder. It did indeed give me beautiful clicks, dings and APU sound. The problem now is that I don't have any other sounds in the cockpit. Not so much as a whisper from my Whisperjet at full throttle. Eerie. That's not gonna work, either.

Hello Tim,

I am pretty sure that the two issues are not connected.
The sound gauge is there to play the sounds that are stored in
the Captain Sim folder, I think that with the renamed 707 gauge,
we are hearing the sounds in the Captain Sim\707\sound folder.

The engine and other ambient sounds are stored in the CS_B727-100\sound folder and are played by FSX, just like any default aircraft.
I can only suggest that you check the integrity of  this sound folder, it should contain 40 sound files and one sound.cfg file.
The folder should also be named sound and in the aircraft.cfg file, its entry for each aircraft should read sound=
Finally check your sound volume settings in the sound section in the drop down menu in FSX.
On your behalf, I have uninstalled and then reinstalled the aircraft to check the integrity of my advice and I hear all the sounds that I expect to.

Regards,
Nick

SUCCESS! Finally.

Like Nick suggested, I copied the 707 sound gauge to my desktop, and renamed it the exact same name as my 727 sound gauge: Captain_Sim.p727.sound.gau. Then I removed the original 727 gauge and replaced it in the gauge folder with the re-named 707 gauge.

(If you have done this correctly, red warning text will appear at the top of your screen when you load the 727.)

That did not work, but I traced the problem to the old sound config trick. With all the uninstalling and reinstalling, I had forgotten to change the "1" to a "0" as Mark suggested above. When I did that, the combination of the two fixes gave me cockpit sounds. BUT... as soon as the APU finished starting up, a very loud fan-type noise started. It was everywhere. Inside the cockpit, outside the airplane. It was the only sound I now had and I couldn't get rid of it. Even reloading didn't help.

Through experimentation, however, I found that if I reloaded after I started one engine, the loud fan noise or whatever went away, and I had normal cockpit sounds and normal engine sounds. And by reloading, I mean selecting the airplane again.

So, by using every trick in the book, and with a lot of help, I now have cockpit sounds. Needless to say, since this is a common problem that some seem to have to jump through more hoops than others to fix, it would be really nice if Captain Sim would just fix it. Surely they know what the problem is.

Thanks Nick, and Mark, for your help.

I cannot install the civa panel in Windows 8.1 :'( :'(
Ron

rservice wrote on Jan 31^st, 2014 at 3:38pm:

I cannot install the civa panel in Windows 8.1 :'( :'( Ron

I just gave it a test, it installed fine for me in Win8.1.

I fixed my sound issues with the custom sounds buy purchasing the 707 and using that sound .dll file as described in the forums.  I recently had to uninstall FSX and then reinstall it.  I did the same things again, replaced the .dll and made the other changes noted in the forums as I had the first time I installed the 727.  Now, after a few minutes the sound to the APU just stops, everything appears to be running.  I can restart the APU and get the sound, then after a few minutes, it stops again.  I have searched the forums and can not seem to find an answer on the APU stop.

CSdoesnotwork wrote on Mar 1^st, 2014 at 11:23pm:

I fixed my sound issues with the custom sounds buy purchasing the 707 and using that sound .dll file as described in the forums.  I recently had to uninstall FSX and then reinstall it.  I did the same things again, replaced the .dll and made the other changes noted in the forums as I had the first time I installed the 727.  Now, after a few minutes the sound to the APU just stops, everything appears to be running.  I can restart the APU and get the sound, then after a few minutes, it stops again.  I have searched the forums and can not seem to find an answer on the APU stop.

The 707 doesn't have an APU, so the reason for the APU sound stopping might have something to do with your using the 707 sound.dll.

Markoz wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2014 at 1:53am:

CSdoesnotwork wrote on Mar 1st, 2014 at 11:23pm: I fixed my sound issues with the custom sounds buy purchasing the 707 and using that sound .dll file as described in the forums.  I recently had to uninstall FSX and then reinstall it.  I did the same things again, replaced the .dll and made the other changes noted in the forums as I had the first time I installed the 727.  Now, after a few minutes the sound to the APU just stops, everything appears to be running.  I can restart the APU and get the sound, then after a few minutes, it stops again.  I have searched the forums and can not seem to find an answer on the APU stop. The 707 doesn't have an APU, so the reason for the APU sound stopping might have something to do with your using the 707 sound.dll.

I have renamed it the 727gauge as well.  I did not have this problem previously.  Do you think I should copy the APU sound file from the 727 and place it into the 707 then?  Its just odd how it starts up then stops, I would think it would not work at all.  

I wish CS would just revamp this aircraft because if it were not for these tiny bugs that plague it, this would be an AMAZING add on.

CSdoesnotwork wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2014 at 4:30pm:

I have renamed it the 727gauge as well.  I did not have this problem previously.  Do you think I should copy the APU sound file from the 727 and place it into the 707 then?  Its just odd how it starts up then stops, I would think it would not work at all.

It's worth trying.

I seemed to have fixed it by doing maybe doing nothing.  I created a new default flight using the default 172 that I shut down completely and then saved that flight.   I also seem to have issues if I run the APU fire test.  

After creating a new default flight and skipping the APU fire test, works perfect.

Now that they have released the T7 and the L-1011 I hope they plan on working on a 727 v2.5.  This and the c-130 should be their primary aircraft.  Other companies have down the 737 classic and the T7, but when it comes to a 727 you have CS and another company and it is my understanding that DF is a FS9 product.

So now I am having issue with the avionics shutting down.  When I first purchased and installed this aircraft, I only had two issues, the sound issue that destroys this aircraft and the FLight Director does not work.  I have this issue with the 707 and c130..,even with the FD turned on it would not function.  I could handle that just fine, the auto pilot worked and I could fly it without a FD.  I fixed the sound issues with using the 707 sound gauge.

Recently FSX crashed and I had to do a complete reinstall of FSX, now my 727 is worthless.  I have the avionics crash that everyone is talking about and changing the Config file does not work for me..it still crashes, the APU sounds randomly shut off.  I thought I had that fixed but it started again.  

I am at my whits end with this aircraft and Captainsim either needs to come out and state that they are currently working on this aircraft to fix it or they give up..it has been over 3 years now

Hello,

I'm new to CS and the forum. I just purchased the 727-100 and -200 expansion. Installation went fine but like many others I do not have any sounds in the cockpit. I can hear the engines running but that's it. None of the switches, dials, knobs, altitude warning, fire bells, APU etc. have any sound. I have read this post and tried all of the suggestions: loading the 727 twice, loading one of the default CS flights, changing SoundOffWhenSimIsSlew=0, and also checked for msvcr71.dll file.

When I checked for msvcr71.dll it was not there so, I downloaded the latest Visual C++ from Microsoft as suggested and after installing it the msvcr71.dll file is still missing.

I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong here but I would really appreciate any help. I'm beginning to worry I wasted $50  :(

(I am running Windows 7 64 bit)

All I do to get the sound for the Captain Sim 727 is reloading the aircraft. It works every time for me.

With regards to the msvcr71.dll file, I've never had to do anything. :-/

My OS is Windows 7 Professional 64bit (and reloading the 727 also works for me in Windows 8.1 Pro 64bit). See my signature at the bottom of this reply for my system specs.

Try using the 707's sound files if you have that plane. I used to do the load twice trick and it worked, but with the 707's sound files, no need to reload to get sound.
Hard to believe this hasn't been fixed ever.

rcpistonhead wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2015 at 11:33pm:

tried all of the suggestions: loading the 727 twice

To be clear, this is not re-loading the aircraft twice from the main menu.

This is setting-up a keyboard short-cut for 'Aircraft (reload)' in the 'Controls' menu. Mark and many others use 'Crtl+Shift+R' key combination.

Here's how to set it up if you haven't already done so:

Select from the main menu; 'Options','Settings','Controls'. Select the 'Buttons/Keys' tab. Make sure that 'Event Category' is on 'All Events'.

Scroll down the list to 'Aircraft (reload)' and mouse click once. (it's the 11th one down in the list).

Click the button 'New Assignment'. A dialog box opens; press and hold all 3 keys: 'Ctrl', 'Shift' and 'R' then release the keys, then select 'Okay'.

Use this keyboard short-cut to 'Reload' your aircraft to have the cockpit sounds work.

Thanks for all of the replies! Apologies ahead of time for my rant lol. Just very frustrated with this.

I also submitted a ticket to CS and their only reply was "we know about the problem and hope to have a fix soon". How am I supposed to believe this when this has been a known problem with many customers for years?

Brian - I do not own the 707, so unfortunately that isn't an option for me. I think it's a bit silly that the only reliable fix for the 727 sound is to spend another $50 on another CS product. Maybe this is their poor attempt at making a even larger profit? I don't think I will purchase another CS product.

Mark - Thanks for the feedback. I'm not sure why it hasn't been working for me.

Paul - Thank you for making the reloading process clear. I have been starting FSX, selecting the 727, location and time and the Fly Now. Then, once the sim has loaded, I go to the drop down menu and go to Select Aircraft. I select the same 727 and let it load again.

I will try your suggested method. Hopefully that works!

fsxpaul wrote on Feb 4^th, 2015 at 1:38pm:

rcpistonhead wrote on Feb 3rd, 2015 at 11:33pm: tried all of the suggestions: loading the 727 twice To be clear, this is not re-loading the aircraft twice from the main menu. This is setting-up a keyboard short-cut for 'Aircraft (reload)' in the 'Controls' menu. Mark and many others use 'Crtl+Shift+R' key combination. Here's how to set it up if you haven't already done so: Select from the main menu; 'Options','Settings','Controls'. Select the 'Buttons/Keys' tab. Make sure that 'Event Category' is on 'All Events'. Scroll down the list to 'Aircraft (reload)' and mouse click once. (it's the 11th one down in the list). Click the button 'New Assignment'. A dialog box opens; press and hold all 3 keys: 'Ctrl', 'Shift' and 'R' then release the keys, then select 'Okay'. Use this keyboard short-cut to 'Reload' your aircraft to have the cockpit sounds work.

Hi Paul,

I tried your method of setting the key mapping for aircraft reload and sad to say it didn't work. I've tried it many different ways and many times with no luck  :(

rcpistonhead wrote on Feb 5^th, 2015 at 4:46am:

I tried your method of setting the key mapping for aircraft reload and sad to say it didn't work. I've tried it many different ways and many times with no luck  :(

Not sure what you mean by 'many different ways'.
What happens when you press 'Ctrl+Shift+R' while in the 3D cockpit?

fsxpaul wrote on Feb 4^th, 2015 at 1:38pm:

rcpistonhead wrote on Feb 3rd, 2015 at 11:33pm: tried all of the suggestions: loading the 727 twice To be clear, this is not re-loading the aircraft twice from the main menu. This is setting-up a keyboard short-cut for 'Aircraft (reload)' in the 'Controls' menu. Mark and many others use 'Crtl+Shift+R' key combination. Here's how to set it up if you haven't already done so: Select from the main menu; 'Options','Settings','Controls'. Select the 'Buttons/Keys' tab. Make sure that 'Event Category' is on 'All Events'. Scroll down the list to 'Aircraft (reload)' and mouse click once. (it's the 11th one down in the list). Click the button 'New Assignment'. A dialog box opens; press and hold all 3 keys: 'Ctrl', 'Shift' and 'R' then release the keys, then select 'Okay'. Use this keyboard short-cut to 'Reload' your aircraft to have the cockpit sounds work.

It works for me regardless of whether I use the CTRL+SHIFT+R shortcut, or Menu > Aircraft > Select Aircraft > press ENTER to reload the same 727. :-/

Once I reload the 727, I have all the sounds working like they should.

It works for me regardless of whether I use the CTRL+SHIFT+R shortcut, or Menu > Aircraft > Select Aircraft > press ENTER to reload the same 727. :-/
Once I reload the 727, I have all the sounds working like they should.

It worked this way for me as well. Did the above and have cockpit sounds ( before I started using the 707's sound files to save this step). Never hurts to back track and double check once more to make sure  you did everything mentioned in the knowledge base item. I followed those instructions ( now years ago), did the reload thing, and had cockpits sounds the first time out.
For the money charged for this sim, it ridiculous everyone has to fight this issue and go through this dance. I have to laugh every time CS mentions it will hopefully be fixed soon- now over three years. Perhaps they should reconsider how they respond to customers. Or better yet, just deal with this.

fsxpaul wrote on Feb 5^th, 2015 at 6:16am:

rcpistonhead wrote on Feb 5th, 2015 at 4:46am: I tried your method of setting the key mapping for aircraft reload and sad to say it didn't work. I've tried it many different ways and many times with no luck  :( Not sure what you mean by 'many different ways'. What happens when you press 'Ctrl+Shift+R' while in the 3D cockpit?

By trying many different ways I mean I tried loading the 727 from the free flight screen and then re loading it inside the sim by pressing Ctrl shift r while in the virtual cockpit. I also tried loading the default flight from the free flight screen with the trike , then loading the 727 and then reloading the 727. I tried both of these methods with Ctrl shift r and also by going to aircraft, select aircraft. In other words, I've tried every combination of loading and re loading that I can think of and still no sounds in the cockpit. I'm getting really bummed out about this. I was and still am excited to fly the 727 but without sounds in the cockpit it's useless as a payware add on.

Still thank you for all of the help and suggestions. I am still hoping to get this fixed

Update:
Fixed.

Major thanks to Brian G. for his help with this.

For all of those who are plagued by this sound problem here is how I fixed it:

I was missing msvcr71.dll from Windows/SysWOW64 (specific location for Windows 7 64 bit)

I found the msvcr71.dll download by doing a google search for the file for Windows 7 64 bit. (message me for the exact link)

As the instructions suggested, I placed the files in Windows/SysWOW64.

I started FSX, loaded the 727, then loaded it again and now my sounds work. :D

Hi all.

I bought the 727 the other day in the 9.99 sale, what a great aircraft.

I went through the list of changes and tweaks as listed here in the forum but can't seem to get the cockpit sounds working.

I followed the KB2930 topic about installing msvcr71.dll which was missing from my windows files but that didn't seem to work, neither did reloading the aircraft twice as suggested. The only tweak that did work was the one to use the 707 sound files, I have that aircraft too. However once installed I lost all the sounds for the V-one addon in the 727.

I find it strange that all the sounds are there in the original 727 CaptainSim/sounds file, and you can play them all fine, but they don't work in the sim. I read somewhere here people reporting that the sounds did work in v2.3 and were now at v2.4 and the sounds are gone now. Is it possibly an idea if someone could verify that the sounds would work using a v2.3 sound gauge and perhaps if this is the case make that file available for people who recently bought the aircraft as v2.4.

Just thinking out loud here, as I think the 727 is a great aircraft and lovely to fly.

Happy Flying.

David Phillips.

http://www.captainsim.org/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1264321545/52#52

Hello,

I'm new to CS and the forum. I just purchased the 727-100 and -200 expansion. Installation went fine but like many others I do not have any sounds in the cockpit. I can hear the engines running but that's it. None of the switches, dials, knobs, altitude warning, fire bells, APU etc. have any sound. I have read this post and tried all of the suggestions: loading the 727 twice, loading one of the default CS flights, changing SoundOffWhenSimIsSlew=0, and also checked for msvcr71.dll file.

When I checked for msvcr71.dll it was not there so, I downloaded the latest Visual C++ from Microsoft as suggested and after installing it the msvcr71.dll file is still missing.

I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong here but I would really appreciate any help. I'm beginning to worry I wasted $50  Sad

(I am running Windows 7 64 bit)

I just reload the the 727 and the sounds return every time. As you can see in my computer specs at the bottom of this reply, my OS is Windows 7 Professional 64bit. The same thing happens with the 727 in Windows 8.1 Pro 64bit.

I have never had to do anything in regards to the msvcr71.dll.

I have the same no switch sound problem with the 727. I noticed that the cs.sound.dll is missing from the Captain_Sim/727 folder. I copied the dll from the 707 into the 727 folder but still no sound. Could this be the problem?

Windows 7 Home 64 bit. I have most of the Capt Sim products and have no other problems.

Update:
Fixed.

Major thanks to Brian G. for his help with this.

For all of those who are plagued by this sound problem here is how I fixed it:



I was missing msvcr71.dll from Windows/SysWOW64 (specific location for Windows 7 64 bit)

I found the msvcr71.dll download by doing a google search for the file for Windows 7 64 bit. (message me for the exact link)

As the instructions suggested, I placed the files in Windows/SysWOW64.

I started FSX, loaded the 727, then loaded it again and now my sounds work. :D

Windows updates are kept current. In the SysWOW64 folder both the MSVCP71.dll and msvcr71.dll are already present. I tried the load and reload with no success.

Alienware X51 R2 Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770 CPU @ 3.40GHz
Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit

Don,
Try this. Courtesy of Markoz.

They still don't work after reloading the aircraft? Try doing this - Open the sound.ini file, found in [FSX root folder]\Captain_Sim\727 and change SoundOffWhenSimIsSlew=1 to SoundOffWhenSimIsSlew=0 like this:

[Common]
Refresh.Time=10
Sound.Directory=Captain_Sim\727\sound
SoundOffWhenSimIsSlew=0
SoundOffWhenSimIsPaused=1
SoundOffWhenSimDialogIsOpen=1
SoundOffWhenSimSoundIsOff=1

Tried that, didn't work. Read another post here about swapping the 727 sound gauge with the 707 one and putting it in the gauge folder. I'll try that later and see what happens. It's no big deal, figured I poke around and see if I could make it work.
Didn't realize this topic had been beaten to death. Thanks for all the input in other related posts.
Thanks

Copied the Captain_Sim.x707.sound.gau from the panel folder, renamed it Captain_Sim.p727.sound.gau and placed it in the Gauges folder (make sure to rename the original 727 sound gauge first). Fired up FSX, selected a 727 at my default KSEA and started flipping switches. Most sounds work in the VC. The rotating light knobs and trim wheel were silent. When selecting the autopilot in a separate window the switches are silent.
On the next test I copied the cs.sound.dll from the Captain_Sim 707 folder into the 727 folder. I fired up the sim and got an orange error message of "4764 ERROR: Thread sound with this id already exist (1108002)." The sounds still worked but I put it back the way I found it and deleted the cs.sound.dll from the 727 folder. The 707 sound gauge is a good work around. I'm going to leave it like this for awhile and see if it continues to work normally without having to load, re-load or reset anything. It would be nice to see a fix.

It appears the 707 gauge is causing the error message. It's only on for a few seconds. I can live with that.

Even though logged in, I apparently don't have permssion to start a new thread in CS forums. But I can post replies.. anyone know why that is?

As for my question, I have the FS9 (Legendary) B707, B727 and C130. Search as I might (user guides, forums, Google) I can't find any instruction as to how to turn off the (automatically played) flight attendent cabin announcements. I have other programmes to do this, and in cargo aircraft they are inapproriate. Could someone kindly help? Doesn't seem to be much activity here these days, so don't know if anyone is even going to read this!

Thanks.

Martin S wrote on Jun 26^th, 2016 at 10:14am:

Even though logged in, I apparently don't have permssion to start a new thread in CS forums. But I can post replies.. anyone know why that is?

You need to post 10 replies before you can create a new topic. At the time of my writing this reply, you only have 7.


Martin S wrote on Jun 26^th, 2016 at 10:14am:

As for my question, I have the FS9 (Legendary) B707, B727 and C130. Search as I might (user guides, forums, Google) I can't find any instruction as to how to turn off the (automatically played) flight attendent cabin announcements. I have other programmes to do this, and in cargo aircraft they are inapproriate. Could someone kindly help? Doesn't seem to be much activity here these days, so don't know if anyone is even going to read this!

I don't have any Captain Sim products for FS9, as by the time I decided I wanted the complex flight sim addons, like those done by Captain Sim, I was only using FSX.
Is there nothing in the TCE: Textures and Config Editor where you can to disable them?

Hi,

Many thanks for the reply. I looked there, but am clearly going blind, or senile - or both: yesterday I couldn't see anything to shut this off, today, I found the 'Off' option on the second tab.

Thanks again.