Hi Tim, there are extensive discussions on the AV*** forums about DX 10 and DX 10 fixer which I believe is a payware program . I have'nt looked into it since my credit card is maxed out with Christmas purchases.
Maybe it helps those with super duper rigs who demand perfection and spend more time tweaking than flying , but for me it seemed to cause more problems than solutions in the past
Ron

Hi Lex.

What happens when you load an aircraft that doesn't support DX10, how can Steve's DX10 Fixer help with those?
Mind you, I consider the price a bit steep when seem to be a case of: "it bundles all the DX10 fixes that have been published to the Avsim Library into a combined easy to install package"!? Reading the info on this product at The FlightSim Store, it, doesn't appear to be much more than that.

Yeah, it's the "extensive discussions" part that don't thrill me. If it were a matter of ticking the box, that would be one thing, but I have precious little time to fly as it is, and am actually pretty pleased with FSX, which, as I type, I am running with every single thing maxed out for the first time and getting a smooth flight with nice weather and some traffic. I take it that it is some sort of visual enhancement. I may fool around with it, but I don't even use a third-party video program. I just let FSX handle AA and it looks great. "Perfect is the enemy of good enough" is a good thing to remember sometimes. Is there a real world example of what I'm missing?

AS FOR THE DX10 FIXER... I don't really have a problem with bundling a bunch of you own free fixes and mods if they really make a complicated job easy. I am not all that computer proficient, which is one of the reasons I am hesitant about DX10. But as a proud member of the forum referenced in the post above, I know that the denizens are sometimes seized by enthusiasms  At one time you were nobody unless you had the latest shader "fix," and heaven forbid you actually fail to use a third-party buffer between FSX and NVIDIA. Oh, and speaking of buffers, buffer pools were in, then they were out. They seem to work for me. In fact everything seems to work for me at the moment. I can just see myself having a wire frame 757 at 3 FPS because I've screwed up something trying to make DX10 work when I can't even explain what I hope to accomplish!  Now I got max water, bloom, traffic, UHDT, heavy weather... all the things that are supposed to bring a system to its knees. But I'm cruising along right now at 50 FPS. Of course I've had cars I've spent less for than this laptop, but hey, money I got... it's time that's scarce.

Markoz wrote on Dec 17^th, 2013 at 12:41am:


Hi Mark,

are they�still available at AVSIM ? I've found only one file as DX10 fix.

Regards
Dietmar

toelg wrote on Dec 29^th, 2013 at 1:34pm:

I guess so. I've never tried any of them myself. FSX is fine for me with DX9, so I have only ever tried DX10 a few times, but found that some of my addons were not compatible, so stopped using it pretty quickly.

Take a look here: DX-10 Discussions, Hints and Help
I'm guessing they are available from within that Avsim Forum topic.

Cappy wrote on Dec 30^th, 2013 at 5:19am:

I believe it has been like that for quite a while Cappy. And I must tell you that as a member, I find it bl**dy annoying, that every time I click on a link to Avsim (forum, library, review, or whatever) I get that blasted message to log in before I can see or do anything.

@AndersCN - I just did all that stuff from the PDF about using DX10. Most of the links in the doc/pdf will give you everything you need to do to use DX10 in FSX. I must admit, it looks pretty good too. All I gotta do now, is find out which of my addons are NOT DX10 compatible!

NOTE: The instructions require you to access the fsx.cfg and make some manual changes. If you don't feel comfortable doing that, the the SteveFX - DX10 Scenery Fixer might be a better way to go about it. The SteveFX - DX10 Scenery Fixer bundles all the fixes found in Avsim forum with it, along with what looks to be tools that do the job for you, without you having to fiddle around and do it all yourself. It's worth thinking about getting if you are not computer savvy.

I thought FSX with DX9 worked just fine for me, but I bought and installed DX10Fixer and WOW Iit's like FSX Next! MUch better looking graphics and way smoother. I haven't used any slider adjustments in the UI either -- �just the default settings. Money well spent!

I did follow the setup instructions by Paul Johnson for Nvidia Inspector, the FSX internal settings and the FSX config.

Bruce

Well, my new computer crashed, leaving me to pick up the pieces and start reinstalling FSX. I suppose, without any add-on scenery, I can just tick the box, right? All I have are some add-on airplanes.

Hi,
I am a bit confused: if I buy and install the package from Flightsim store, do I then additionally have to do all the stuff according to Paul J' s note in the Avsim thread?

Best Regards and happy Newyear everybody?
Anders

Yes, DX10 preview was pretty bad by just ticking the box. Flickering default scenery, etc. I'm going to have to get a lot more bored and jaded before I worry DX10, but glad those who use it have found it worthwhile.

Thanks Nick.

The only problem I have with Nvidia Inspector is that half the settings displayed in that image are not available in my version. The funny thing is that I have the 1.9.7.2 (from the link in the DX10 Notes.PDF file from the Avsim forum) and it STILL doesn't show the same listings/settings as the latest version.

At least I have the same available listings as your image, but not the same settings available. For example:

In your image, you have
Antialiasing - Mode � � Application-controlled / Off

Whereas mine has
Antialiasing - Mode � � AA_MODE_SELECTOR_APP_CONTROL (with the other choices being AA_MODE_SELECTOR_OVERRIDE and AA_MODE_SELECTOR_ENHANCED)

So I am left to guess as to exactly which one I should use (AA_MODE_SELECTOR_APP_CONTROL appears to be the right one).

Same applies to the Texture filtering - LOD Bias (DX) � � -1.5000. Mine only has Texture filtering - LOD Bias � � LODBIASADJUST_DEFAULT
Mine does not have �Texture filtering - LOD Bias (DX) or Texture filtering - LOD Bias (OGL) to choose from. So how am I supposed to get all those settings correct if mine differs so much? The funny thing is that this has ALWAYS been the case for me. When making the changes, half the settings do not exist in the Nvidia Inspector I am using, even though it is the same version as the one listed in the guide that I am following.

I guess my only option is to request a copy of someone else's FSX profile for Nvidia Inspector.

I added all of those lines that were missing from the guide (not added by the Fixer) into my fsx.cfg, and my frame rate dropped by about 5 fps! So now I am removing them and sticking with the changes made by the DX Scenery Fixer.

AndersCN wrote on Jan 1^st, 2014 at 8:29am:

Aha! I opened the Nvidia Inspector zip file, and I must have clicked on (and highlighted) the nvidiaInspector.exe file). Then, when I extracted the contents of the zip file, nvidiaInspector.exe was the only file extracted. The Change.txt and CustomSettingNames_en-EN.xml files were not extracted. I must have done this with other nvidiaInspector zip files. I do know that I always read about the changes (the change.txt file), but somehow, I must be moving over to the nvidiaInspector.exe file before extracting. Winzip will always extract the Selected files if a file, or multiple files are highlighted. So that's what I have been doing wrong all this time.
The question is, how many times have I only extracted the exe file and not the Change.txt and CustomSettingNames_en-EN.xml, without realizing I had done that?

So now it looks like Nicks image.

It certainly does not help my situation when I often do these things at "strange hours of the night" - like somewhere between 3am and 5am.

EDIT: Yes. I am using the 331.82 whql drivers. I have downloaded the latest beta driver (331.93 beta), but due to often having trouble with beta drivers, I don't have it installed!

Nvidia Inspector -- I have the 770M and just use the Trilinear and Anisotropic in FSX without any third-party apps. Things look "antialiased" just fine... why would I need Nvidia Inspector? Sorry for the ignorance, but my motto is perfect is the enemy of good enough.

Hi,

I agree with Nick.
And I will be specific about two things, that I find very important:

1)      SGSS � Sparse Grid SuperSampling. Don�t ask me what this translates into in English. But setting this to 2x, greatly reduces shimmering in tree tops, fences and it also reduces distant blurries on the ground. If you set it to 4x or 8x it will be eliminated almost completely.
2)      � Vsync trick in combination with setting FPS=30 in either FSX or Inspector itself provides much more smoothness in the sim that I have ever experienced before.

In short, greatly improved image quality, that cannot be done in FSX itself (as far as I know). The flipside of the coin however is, that it takes a harsh punishment on the GPU- especially SGSS can be tough in this dept. And I am here talking about DX9 - haven�t tried DX10 yet.

BR,
Anders

Well I was intrigued, and figure out how to use the Nvidia Inspector. Nothing particularly hard, but it still took awhile. But Holy Cow! Now Captain Sim airplanes look even better! I didn't know what I was missing. I don't see myself ever flying without it again.

I would suggest that you try it and find out. That doesn't mean that you go and buy SteveFX - DX10 Scenery Fixer just yet either! Just try doing as much of the tweaks as you can from the The "How-To" doc to see how it looks on your computer.

If, after doing that, it looks good and your computer performs well, you can then decide whether you think it's worth buy the DX10 Scenery Fixer to make the whole process a bit more simple.

The trouble with all these tweaks is that they are passed around like magic incantations, and not always understood. (And I mean no criticism of anyone in particular.)

I am very happy with Nvidia Inspector, as I said. I am in the experimentation phase.  I particular, I'm looking at antialiasing. For me, A_MODE_SELECTOR_OVERRIDE is best for the MODE. At least that's what I've been using. I don't think I want the app to control settings, but my graphics cards. Next is the setting. The usual one that is floating around doesn't even appear as an option for me. Perhaps it is already old. I am vaguely aware there is Multisampling and Supersampling, but beyond that I couldn't tell you anything.  I am bouncing back and forth between 16X on each. I have never heard of VCAA, Super VCAA, etc.

The Captain Sim cockpits have logs of nice, straight lines, and I've been judging by looking around them and seeing how much I like them. (Outside of the ships, too.) Wow. It really looks great. Anyway, that's where I'm at now and it's good.

As far as DX10, it seems to me that the flipping back and forth, the DX10 colors are more saturated, there is more contrast, and all-in-all regular FSX looks slightly washed out by comparison. (Very slightly, but enough to pique my interest.) Is this about right, or am I imagining things?

A++++ is a good place to find things out, but I thought I would poll this smaller community first, since I use primarily Captain Sim products.

FSX does not seem as bright using DX10. It is taking a bit of getting used to. Add the ShadersHLSL fixes, and the shadows in the VC look awesome. Take a look at Nick Cooper's images of the shadows in the CS 707's VC here: 707 VC shadows in FSX Dx10

btscott wrote on Jan 8^th, 2014 at 3:40pm:

Bruce there's a tutorial flight posted here. PS I haven't tried it so no idea how good it is.
http://www.captainsim.com/products/x757/manuals.html

I've also seen a thread on it somewhere, hopefully I can find it for you.
Here it is. An FMC tutorial that's easy to follow.
http://captainsim.org/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1220997876

HTH

Don't forget the manual, either. There's a whole volume on the FMC which is actually pretty good. I think you'll find that once steps "click" it really isn't very hard at all. I can remember trying to figure out the format for the lat / long entry... not knowing I could just copy it to the scratchpad from last position and paste it in! It was the silly little things like that that took awhile.

Bruce,

If you have a question about the FMS, I still have my 757 books and will try to fill in blanks.

Lou

Hey Anders --- I have a GTX580 which seems to handle the DX10 fixer quite well at 8xsgss. I haven't checked the gpu temps since I went to it, but I do turn the gpu fan up to 75% every time I fire up FSX. I have not seen any spikes or weird graphics artifacts which is what usually happens when the gpu is overheated. Also, I have no car traffic, and my UT2 traffic is at 45% and airport traffic at minimum. No other traffic or airplane labels. Autogen is at dense.

Your Haswell build with a Titan or even a base 780 will certainly take care of any graphics concerns.

I would never go back to DX9, even though I had it looking quite decent, like yourself. The DX10 fixer, as you mentioned, provides more crisp clear graphics with better color and smoother game play for sure.

Good luck on the new build!

Bruce

Most likely I will go for a factory OC' ed 780(ti). Today the hefty price of the Titan makes no sense, as it is beaten by a reference 780ti, and I can't belive it sells anymore. But should there be a significant pricedrop of the Titan in order to empty warehouses, giving space for an updated "Titan Ti", I may go for it, as I like the 6 gb memory.

Best Regards,
Anders

Fabriziooo wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2014 at 9:15pm:

I use the SteveFX - DX10 Scenery Fixer and I don't have any problems with FSX!

What problems causes it?

Anders

Markoz wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2014 at 1:36am:


Hi Mark,

as I tried the DX10 at FSX, the first, I have noticed is, that my AI-aircrafts lost their strobe- and wing- lights. Some AI-aircrafts also don't have textures and look grey at DX10.

I found these missing textures especially at the CDAI L1011-500, FSP DC-10 and MD11.

I also noticed, that that the CS L1011 lost the strobe- and wing- lights at DX10- mode too.

Before I decide to buy the DX10- fixer, I would like to know, if this tool is able to fix that.

So may I ask, did You have the same problems before Steve's fixer and could You solve them with the the DX10- fixer ?

Thanks
Dietmar

Hi Mark,

thanks for Your detailed answer ! At the meantime, I have purchased the DX10 fixer too.

Trembling, I've loaded my flight, and soon, I could see a AI-LTU L1011. with completely strange textures. Tough luck - I thought. �
But as I have seen the other AI-planes, which looked also gray before, I found that they all had normal textures and also functioning wing and strobe lights . Tthe LTU L1011 I could fortunately replace by another model, which now works perfectly. So yet again lucky! �

And of course, it also fixes the CS L1011 lights, as You said.

It was important for me, to keep my retro ai-traffic at DX10, because it's really great, "sitting"�in the CS L1011 and watching also L1011 and other good old retro AI-aircrafts all around me at my airports. �

Thanks again and
� Kind Regards !
� �� Dietmar

speck wrote on Mar 28^th, 2014 at 2:56am:

That's good to know. It will help every one else who uses ATI Graphics Cards. Mine is an Nvidia Graphics Card, so I couldn't help you out.