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Re: List of Bugs after 2.4 - Comments needed
Reply #30 - Nov 3rd, 2010 at 4:37pm
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I get it to snap up, but it returns to off and will not stay engaged.  Huummmmmm?????
Might sound crazy to you, Lou, but try to alter your click technique. I experience this behavior on various switches around the flight deck and if I click somehow slow the switches stay where I like them to.

Try to click and hold the mouse button shortly.
  
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Reply #31 - Nov 3rd, 2010 at 7:59pm
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Maybe this isn't so important: I have started a thread about it; Pushback and turns aren't possible? As I say in my new thread I had installed Rob berengredts' gauge to be able to do this: I like to start my flights as realistically as possible from the gate...But turns aren't possible. Undecided
  

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Reply #32 - Nov 3rd, 2010 at 10:36pm
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I get it to snap up, but it returns to off and will not stay engaged.  Huummmmmm?????
Mine works fine. It wont stay up if there isn't any External Power (of course), but if I do have EP the switch goes up and stays up.

Maybe this isn't so important: I have started a thread about it; Pushback and turns aren't possible? As I say in my new thread I had installed Rob berengredts' gauge to be able to do this: I like to start my flights as realistically as possible from the gate...But turns aren't possible.

Have you tried using the Ship+P+1 (for left) or Shift+P+2 (for right)? The following is from FSX help regarding pushback.

Pushback

Most of the time, the aircraft parked at a gate in Flight Simulator will be the larger planes, like the Boeing 737, Boeing 777, and the Boeing 747. These planes must be pushed back from the gate before they can taxi to the runway. In the real world, this task is accomplished by a "tug," a small tractor designed for the job. When you're parked at a gate in Flight Simulator, you'll need to have your aircraft pushed back before you can request a taxi clearance.

To get a pushback

  1. Press SHIFT+P to push straight back.
     - or -
     Press SHIFT+P and then press 1 to turn the tail of the aircraft to the left as it pushes back.
     - or -
     Press SHIFT+P and then press 2 to turn the tail of the aircraft to the right as it pushes back.
  2. Press SHIFT+P again to stop moving back.

After the pushback, the ATC menu includes a Request Taxi option.


I do this on all my Captain Sim aircraft and it works fine for me.

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Reply #33 - Nov 4th, 2010 at 11:54am
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Mark: Thanks for your reply; Yes I have studied this carefuly and have also read the help section of FSX; But my 727 doesn't like pushback turns...It pushes back only in straight  lines...That's why when I realized I had this problem I searched and found Rob Baredregts' Ground Handling gauge  which fixes this issue, But at the same time adds a very annoying brake sound. I began with this issue already in V2.2 of the 727 cap. I had all the posts in the forum,But I guess they got old and dusty and since have been deleted.

Knowing that my system struggles I just attemted again a pushback from the gate.
I loaded FSX with my default flight at the runway; Then I moved the Cessna to a gate with a tug,by choosing it via the options menu,Not by Slewing. Once ther I loaded the 727,loaded all the views and then Presses Shift+p inmediately fallowed by 1 or 2...The plane only began to move backwards...After a distance of aproximately the main gear and front gear it should beggin´to turn...?

It keeps on going straight backwards...? Undecided

I have the same issue with my Super VC10
  

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Reply #34 - Nov 4th, 2010 at 1:26pm
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Hi Bernardo.

If the Ground Handling Gauge is the one I think it is, I thought it had the capability to turn some of the sounds off, like the brake sound.

As for the FSX Push Back, it can take a while before it does start to turn, but I'm not sure just how long. Many time I press SHIFT+P and wait a while before pressing #1 or #2. And as long as I don't mouse click anything or press another key, this will work fine. This works on all my aircraft, the default ones and the Add-on ones. I don't understand why it doesn't work for you.

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Reply #35 - Nov 4th, 2010 at 7:48pm
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Hi Mark: The gauge is:RCBgh-50.zip:  Groundhandling gauges for FSX aircraft                #
#                                                                      #
#                        By Rob Barendregt

And it's possibel to turn  the sound down,But nnot completely; I experimented deleting the sound file and the gauge went haywire.And  Because of my accidents with mcafee and theire bug; Which by the way I finally got my compensation and a free one years' subcription...And all the formatting I've had to do to save my computer I've lost the e-mails Rob had sent me with the intructions how to reduce the brake sound, Nevertheless I don't understand why my 727 doesn't turn using default FSX commands...Can it be a memory problem? Undecided

It is true what you say Mark The distance before the plane beggins to make the turn is usually the distance between the main and front gear.
I just tried again...Loading 727 after default then moving it to agate with a pushback truck and pressing shift+p and inmediately 2...Still it only goes straight...?
I stand corrected Mark Rob gives intructions in his read me how to reduce the volume of the brakes sound.
  

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Reply #36 - Nov 4th, 2010 at 10:48pm
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I park my 727 at whichever gate I feel like. There doesn't need to be a visible pushback tug there, an invisible one will do it.

Well I did a test with the 727-100 and the pushback works, but not as well as in other aircraft. It is very slow to pushback to a 90o angle. This is probably best said as The angle of the pushback turn is very shallow when compared to other aircraft like the CS757, which has a much tighter turning angle.

The difference is that the 757 does it in about 1/3 of the distance as the 727 does. Sad

I also want to explain how I tried to see if I could make it better. I went to the [contact_points] section of the CS727-100 aircraft.cfg and changed entry number 8 (the 8th entry after the "=" sign) in the hope that it might help.
From the FSX SDK help file: 8 (180) Steering Angle The maximum angle (positive and negative) that a wheel can pivot (degrees).

[contact_points]
//point.0=1,   42.20,  0.00, -11.45, 1600, 0, 1.323, 45.00, 0.6, 1.30, 0.6, 4.0, 4.0, 0, 230.0, 270.0
point.0=1,   42.20,  0.00, -11.45, 1600, 0, 1.323, 70.00, 0.6, 1.30, 0.6, 4.0, 4.0, 0, 230.0, 270.0

In the highlighted area above 45o is the original and 70o is my change. It made no difference whatsoever. So unless Lou can inform us that this is true of the performance of the 727. I'll call it bug.

Mark

  

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Reply #37 - Nov 5th, 2010 at 12:35am
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Berlopez wrote on Nov 4th, 2010 at 7:48pm:
Hi Mark: The gauge is:RCBgh-50.zip:  Groundhandling gauges for FSX aircraft                #
#                                                                      #
#                        By Rob Barendregt

And it's possibel to turn  the sound down,But nnot completely; I experimented deleting the sound file and the gauge went haywire.And  Because of my accidents with mcafee and theire bug; Which by the way I finally got my compensation and a free one years' subcription...And all the formatting I've had to do to save my computer I've lost the e-mails Rob had sent me with the intructions how to reduce the brake sound, Nevertheless I don't understand why my 727 doesn't turn using default FSX commands...Can it be a memory problem? Undecided

It is true what you say Mark The distance before the plane beggins to make the turn is usually the distance between the main and front gear.
I just tried again...Loading 727 after default then moving it to agate with a pushback truck and pressing shift+p and inmediately 2...Still it only goes straight...?
I stand corrected Mark Rob gives intructions in his read me how to reduce the volume of the brakes sound.


Are you pressing shift+p then 1 or 2 on the number pad or the top row?  If you are pressing the number pad and your num lock is off, then I think it won't work.
  

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Reply #38 - Nov 5th, 2010 at 8:49am
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Hi Mark: Yes it doesn't make a difference;Thanks for your research! Smiley

audiohavok;Thanks for joining in this quest. I did as yoou adviced...My Num Lock was on...I am using the top row numbers,not NumPad numbers. Still didn't help...? Pushed back straight. The pushback says one has to press Shift+P Inmediately fallowed by 1 or 2; I don't know if I can draw a gun much faster than I'm pressing 1or2  Wink;
Anyway I installed Robs' Pushback and Taxi gauge last night and it seems to be doing the job; Oh and Mark The intructions of how to get rid of the annoying brake sound were on the "readme" file;So i didn't loose them after all. I applied the changes and it works.Even with Robs' gauge the turning radius is enormous

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Reply #39 - Nov 5th, 2010 at 2:11pm
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audiohavoc wrote on Nov 5th, 2010 at 12:35am:
Are you pressing shift+p then 1 or 2 on the number pad or the top row?  If you are pressing the number pad and your num lock is off, then I think it won't work.
I do it by pressing Shift+P then 1 or 2 on the top row (not the numpad 1 or 2). There is definitely something wrong with the pushback on the 727 when compared to the rest of my FSX aircraft (default or add-on). If you have the 727 at Gate where backing out is going to be a squeeze, there is no way it will turn much before you have stop it. In that kind of situation, your best bet would be to either park at a better Gate or use the slew command to turn the 727.

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Reply #40 - Nov 5th, 2010 at 8:01pm
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HI Mark: That is true; I agree. something is definately wrong with the pushback sequence of the 727. I do the same with my default or other addons Shift+P then 1 or2 depending whicch way you want to turn. But my 727-100 V2.4 only goes on straight lines as I've been saying.

...Now even after installing Robs' gauge the turn ratio is enormous,even after setting it at 90ş
So there's still work to be done...Or we could just slew as you suggest?

I just checked again and the turning angle si wrong,even using Robs' gauge; As you say Mark

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[contact_points]
//point.0=1,   42.20,  0.00, -11.45, 1600, 0, 1.323, 45.00, 0.6, 1.30, 0.6, 4.0, 4.0, 0, 230.0, 270.0
point.0=1,   42.20,  0.00, -11.45, 1600, 0, 1.323, 70.00, 0.6, 1.30, 0.6, 4.0, 4.0, 0, 230.0, 270.0

Didn't make any difference,Robs' gauge isn't either; So I canonly guess that the code is completely wrong in the 727-100; Hope Lou has a look at this?

  

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Reply #41 - Nov 13th, 2010 at 4:28pm
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Please verify this, if is a bug or a corrupted installation.

When the taxi and landing lights are off, continue the light´s reflections in the fuselage.




  
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Reply #42 - Nov 22nd, 2010 at 12:58pm
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i was just wondering if the trim issue has been taken care of by any update. i'm referring to the one this real world 727 pilot is talking about in his review on this product.

http://airlinersim.blogspot.com/2009/03/captain-sim-727-captain.html

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Reply #43 - Nov 22nd, 2010 at 2:43pm
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Haven't had any trim problems so far.
I can only think of some guys using an acceleration setting in the FSX options which therefor repeats the command very fast or they have some custom FSUIPC or whatever (Joystick software for example) settings which interfere with the original trim response on this bird.

I'm using the standard key command of FSX, bound to joystick buttons. No big acceleration set and no custom settings at FSUIPC configured and she trims just fine.

What's your setup then?
  
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Reply #44 - Dec 4th, 2010 at 4:42pm
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I installed version 2.4 but I found that I still needed to install a lot of the mods posted here and at avsim, specifically the cfg fix to slow down the trimming speed, the EPR fix, the altimeter rollover fix, and the don't sink fix. I don't see these bugs listed in this thread, so I am wondering if I didn't install version 2.4 correctly. Would someone tell me if version 2.4 corrected these items from the mod1.1 on this forum and the version 2.3 mods from avsim?
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