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Firecapt_32 Full Member Offline Former A&P:B52,KC135,707,72 7,737,747,DC8,DC9,L1 011 Posts: 84 Joined: Oct 27^th, 2009	Black Textures? Aug 30^th, 2013 at 3:46am	Print Post
	I just downloaded and installed a new repaint for the CS B727 in Delta Air Lines latest livery. The problem is the aircraft skin is black with the exception of the doors which are white. Any ideas on what causes this?


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Markoz CS Team Offline Posts: 12373 Location: Victoria, Australia Joined: Apr 24^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Black Textures? Reply #1 - Aug 31^st, 2013 at 2:33am	Print Post
	Firecapt_32 wrote on Aug 30^th, 2013 at 3:46am: I just downloaded and installed a new repaint for the CS B727 in Delta Air Lines latest livery. The problem is the aircraft skin is black with the exception of the doors which are white. Any ideas on what causes this? Copy the texture.cfg from one of the default 727 texture folders (i.e. texture.aircanada), and paste it in the texture.xx folder for the latest Delta Airlines livery. That should fix it.

	Mark Fletcher PC: i7 10700K @3.8/5.1GHz \| 64GB DDR4 3200 \| 12GB RTX 4070 Super \| 32" LCD Monitor \| 1TB SSD & 2x2TB SSD \| Win 11 Pro - FSX/FSX-SE/P3D3/P3D4/P3D5/P3D6/MSFS2020 15.6" Gaming Laptop: i7 7700HQ \| 32GB DDR4 \| 6GB GTX 1060 \| 256GB SSD & 1TB HDD \| Win 10 Pro 64bit - FSX-SE/P3D4
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Firecapt_32 Full Member Offline Former A&P:B52,KC135,707,72 7,737,747,DC8,DC9,L1 011 Posts: 84 Joined: Oct 27^th, 2009	Re: Black Textures? Reply #2 - Aug 31^st, 2013 at 8:37pm	Print Post
	Thanks, Mark. I'll give it a try.


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Firecapt_32 Full Member Offline Former A&P:B52,KC135,707,72 7,737,747,DC8,DC9,L1 011 Posts: 84 Joined: Oct 27^th, 2009	Re: Black Textures? Reply #3 - Sep 4^th, 2013 at 12:29am	Print Post
	Mark, unfortunately that didn't work. I'm wondering if it's because I run FSX in DX10 mode.


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Markoz CS Team Offline Posts: 12373 Location: Victoria, Australia Joined: Apr 24^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Black Textures? Reply #4 - Sep 4^th, 2013 at 2:18am	Print Post
	Firecapt_32 wrote on Sep 4^th, 2013 at 12:29am: Mark, unfortunately that didn't work. I'm wondering if it's because I run FSX in DX10 mode. Was the repaint created for the Legendary 727? There could be a problem with texture names if it was.

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Firecapt_32 Full Member Offline Former A&P:B52,KC135,707,72 7,737,747,DC8,DC9,L1 011 Posts: 84 Joined: Oct 27^th, 2009	Re: Black Textures? Reply #5 - Sep 5^th, 2013 at 9:18pm	Print Post
	Nope, this is a repaint for the FSX version. I downloaded it from FlightSim.com.


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Markoz CS Team Offline Posts: 12373 Location: Victoria, Australia Joined: Apr 24^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Black Textures? Reply #6 - Sep 6^th, 2013 at 2:45am	Print Post
	Firecapt_32 wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 9:18pm: Nope, this is a repaint for the FSX version. I downloaded it from FlightSim.com. Which repaint is it (filename)? I'll download it and see if I can figure out why it isn't working.

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Nick Cooper Full Member Offline Posts: 108 Location: York England Joined: Sep 21^st, 2010 Gender:	Re: Black Textures? Reply #7 - Sep 8^th, 2013 at 8:23pm	Print Post
	The repaint is for the 727 Captain: 727-200 Expansion Model v2.2\n(c) 2009 Captain Sim, not the 100 model like I and probably the OP have. I have tried renaming the files to fit the 100 model but the front section remains black, as the texture is very different. Regards, Nick


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Firecapt_32 Full Member Offline Former A&P:B52,KC135,707,72 7,737,747,DC8,DC9,L1 011 Posts: 84 Joined: Oct 27^th, 2009	Re: Black Textures? Reply #8 - Sep 13^th, 2013 at 6:28pm	Print Post
	Mark, sorry..... been working a lot lately. Here's the short-cut for the file.... it's on the FlightSim.com website under the FSX Jetliners section. Not sure if the file is also posted to AVSIM or not. I appreciate the effort my friend. http://www.flightsim.com/vbfs/fslib.php?do=copyright&fid=171746 Nick, it states it's for the -200 version. I checked the fallback textures for some other repaints that work and even those show reference to the -100. Not sure why. But in this case the whole aircraft is black and only the doors show the repaint. Even the example pics show the aircraft is in fact a -200 series.


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Markoz CS Team Offline Posts: 12373 Location: Victoria, Australia Joined: Apr 24^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Black Textures? Reply #9 - Sep 14^th, 2013 at 3:52am	Print Post
	Firecapt_32 wrote on Sep 13^th, 2013 at 6:28pm: Mark, sorry..... been working a lot lately. Here's the short-cut for the file.... it's on the FlightSim.com website under the FSX Jetliners section. Not sure if the file is also posted to AVSIM or not. I appreciate the effort my friend. http://www.flightsim.com/vbfs/fslib.php?do=copyright&fid=171746 Nick, it states it's for the -200 version. I checked the fallback textures for some other repaints that work and even those show reference to the -100. Not sure why. But in this case the whole aircraft is black and only the doors show the repaint. Even the example pics show the aircraft is in fact a -200 series. Unfortunately you must be doing something wrong. I just downloaded it and added it to the 727-200 and it looks great. One thing I did find, was that it has ui_manufacturer=Captain Sim and ui_createdby=Captain Sim, and it does have description=727 Captain: 727-200 Expansion Model v2.2\n(c) 2009 Captain Sim www.captainsim.com [fltsim.XX] title=CS 727-200 Captain Delta New 07 sim=cs727200 model= panel= sound= texture=da07 kb_checklists= kb_reference= atc_id=N400DA atc_airline=Delta atc_flight_number=2231 ui_manufacturer=Captain Sim ui_type=727-200 ui_variation=Delta Airlines New 07 ui_typerole=Commercial Airliner ui_createdby=Captain Sim description=727 Captain: 727-200 Expansion Model v2.2\n(c) 2009 Captain Sim www.captainsim.com visual_damage=1 which I did change it to ui_manufacturer=Boeing, but left the ui_createdby=Captain Sim as it was. I also changed the description= entry to description=727 Captain (727-200 Expansion Model) v2.4\n(c) 2010 Captain Sim www.captainsim.com/nRepaint by Michael Hogan: [fltsim.XX] title=CS 727-200 Captain Delta New 07 sim=cs727200 model= panel= sound= texture=da07 kb_checklists= kb_reference= atc_id=N400DA atc_airline=Delta atc_flight_number=2231 ui_manufacturer=Boeing ui_type=727-200 ui_variation=Delta Airlines New 07 ui_typerole=Commercial Airliner ui_createdby=Captain Sim description=727 Captain (727-200 Expansion Model) v2.4\n(c) 2010 Captain Sim www.captainsim.com/nRepaint by Michael Hogan visual_damage=1 And here is how it looks (with OR without, my changes to the [FLTSIM.XX] entry above) on my CS 727-200 v2.4: I have the VC showing in the additional window just to show that the VC textures are okay as well. I just don't know what you are doing wrong. Sorry.

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Firecapt_32 Full Member Offline Former A&P:B52,KC135,707,72 7,737,747,DC8,DC9,L1 011 Posts: 84 Joined: Oct 27^th, 2009	Re: Black Textures? Reply #10 - Sep 14^th, 2013 at 9:54pm	Print Post
	I'll delete and try to reinstall.


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Firecapt_32 Full Member Offline Former A&P:B52,KC135,707,72 7,737,747,DC8,DC9,L1 011 Posts: 84 Joined: Oct 27^th, 2009	Re: Black Textures? Reply #11 - Sep 15^th, 2013 at 2:32pm	Print Post
	Mark I figured it out..... his textures won't run in DX10 mode. Switched to DX9 and it's fine.


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Markoz CS Team Offline Posts: 12373 Location: Victoria, Australia Joined: Apr 24^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Black Textures? Reply #12 - Sep 16^th, 2013 at 3:04am	Print Post
	Glad you sorted it out. I don't use DX10 Preview mode because quite a few of my addons don't like it. Seeing as I can't remember which ones are, or aren't, compatible, it stays OFF.

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Firecapt_32 Full Member Offline Former A&P:B52,KC135,707,72 7,737,747,DC8,DC9,L1 011 Posts: 84 Joined: Oct 27^th, 2009	Re: Black Textures? Reply #13 - Sep 18^th, 2013 at 4:20am	Print Post
	Problem for me is I gain quite a bit of FPS with DX10. Plus my water textures and VC shading looks a lot nicer. I'll just have to flip back and forth.


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Markoz CS Team Offline Posts: 12373 Location: Victoria, Australia Joined: Apr 24^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Black Textures? Reply #14 - Sep 18^th, 2013 at 5:31am	Print Post
	Firecapt_32 wrote on Sep 18^th, 2013 at 4:20am: Problem for me is I gain quite a bit of FPS with DX10. Plus my water textures and VC shading looks a lot nicer. I'll just have to flip back and forth. True. It can give a better look to the water, but I'm not sure whether I get any FPS improvement. Besides, turning it on or off requires a restart of FSX. And I'm slack!

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