With 4.2 my first test flight, no more than 10 minutes in on changing my arrival runway, CTD.

I'm in full mode. I guess I can try it, but I believe being in windowed mode incures a performance hit.

its very dipressing really! Though i haven't encountered this type of crash but totally different crashes especially when flying 757 in multiplayer. It crashes without giving any warning. Sometimes back to the lobby or straight to desktop. I've put FSX to rest as i've moved to x-plane and I've to say i'm thoroughly enjoying x-plane, so far no crashes and wonderful flight dynamics+realistic textures+incredible weather engine.

I do appreciate efforts put by captain sim and other vendors for fantastic planes but "maybe" its just plain stupid micro$oft's base engine which does not allows addons to be flexible/complex enough. In that case addon developers are at mercy of microsoft. This is just a speculation I donot know the reality.  

Can ayone help me I have 4.2  installed and when I try to load FSX flightplans into the CDU the darn thing crashes and reloads FSX again its very annoying. As an aside do you load FPlns into the FMC in the same way in 4.1 as in 4.2?

Well to be clear this thread is about the FMC crashing to desktop in both 4.1 and 4.2. I'm more concerned about the crashes that occur when flying an active flight plan since I enter the flight plans by hand. At least you can work around the loading flight plan bug by doing so yourself. Granted that it should load them without crashing, but that's another issue.

So far, so good for me.  I performed a test flight from KIAH to KAUS with the v4.2 update.  I input a restriction of 140/3000 at BROMS, and it worked without a CTD.

Had no trouble picking up LOC and G/S on runway 17R at KAUS once I dialed in the correct settings on the radio stack.  ILS guided approach went flawlessly.  I was very pleased with the initial test flight on this one.

However, I did get a CTD once when I selected "End Flight" after pressing ESC after landing, but I would consider this a minor issue for now.  I will keep my eyes open for issues as I test it more extensively.  I may yet uncover other issues.

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Yes, we are.
But please note:

1. This forum is not for technical support. For technical support please check-in to Your Profile then click Product Name > Customer Support >

2. If you have already submitted a ticket (detailed and informative all according to KB#1063) thank you and please standby for announcements.

3. When???!!!
Sorry but we do not answer this question.
Just a hint: the 757 SP 4.2 was released just 3 weeks ago. So personally I'd not expect the 757 SP4.3 any sooner than Spring '09.

Captain:

I appreciate you letting us know that the issue is being worked on.  I have submitted a support ticket on this issue, and was not happy with the outcome.  I think it is unacceptable for you to say that we will have to wait for 4.3 to come out spring of '09 for a fix to this.   MOST of us have paid around $80 for your product and cannot use the product as it's represented without it crashing to desktop.  Whoever is working on this needs to find out what is causing it and produce a patch to fix this FMC issue much before Spring '09.  

I hope you can understand the frustration.  If you purchased a product and expected it to work as represented and it doesn't, which causes you not to be able to use the product and then the manufacture says....sorry can't help you till we release another update 4 or 5 months later.....I'm sure you won't be very happy about that.      

Point is...The support team needs to get this fixed asap, and we (the customer) do not expect a representative to tell us sorry...you will have to wait for a full update to be released.

Thank You.


Captain Sim wrote on Dec 15^th, 2008 at 10:49pm:

Well I've just spent a couple of hours re-installing FSX and testing. The 757 crashed within 10 minutes of the first test when I changed the approach. The bug is in the FMC coding, not FSX.

CS,

After reading your answer I am thinking CS is not getting the full scope of the issues.

Some like me, where under the impression, if a trouble ticket was submitted then the issue is known. However, I see now from your post that even if the issue is known, that CS is counting the tickets to see if maybe it is a major issue.

Based on that response, then I am submitting tickets even if it was reported by someone else.

As an example, the RAT, even though it does not affect flight is an issue with many.

The Rocking back and forth is another.

Now finally this one described above 

Regards

I just purchased the 757 and on the first flight that I made, on the very first change to the FSM flight plan (I added a missing crossing restriction on the OLM5 approach into SEA) I got a CTD.

I then started reading the forums and saw how many people have this problem. I have no patience to deal with this kind of problem on every flight.  I will try this a few more times, but if this continues, then it is into the hanger for me.

Eric,  done....this happened again 2.5 hours into a 3 hour flight.  I simply changed the runway from 35L at KDEN to Rwy 26, selected FUZZZ intersection, tried to close the discontinuity and bam, CTD, game over.

I have had this problem on all flights but one so far, and that one I had the AP not disconnecting problem.

Oh, and changing to FSUIPC 4.3 didn't help me with the AP disconnect problem.  Into KSEA at 200', I disconnected the AP, had no controls and the aircraft landed itself at -600 fpm .  I reinstalled FSUIPC 4.3 and was going to try it out again on this flight...but....CTD

Beachdog2001 wrote on Jan 6^th, 2009 at 4:01am:


Yeah, I've tried everything too. The problem is with the FMC code. I suspect the customers who don't have this issue don't use the FMC fully and don't do things like switch runways or insert crossing restrictions.

This issue was reported so long ago that I can't remember if I created a ticket or not. I too assumed that since CS was aware of the issue that they would fix it. I'm starting to think they can't or won't for whatever reason.

Yeah, I was thinking about some work-arounds. Perhaps not entering the runway/approach until you know what it will be for sure. And just don't use vnav for descent and manage it yourself. It's kind of a drag because that's what the FMC is for, but until they fix it, this might work.

Also, I've been wondering why some people don't get this crash. The people who are crashing are you using lbs or kg? I'm curious if that could be a cause. I've tried both PW and RR variants and it makes no difference.

I could be chasing my tail here, but until CS fixes it, I'm very frustrated. They won't return it, because I had good faith and have waited for a fix, so it's been too long now. I'm stuck with a very broken airplane.

Slowdive wrote on Jan 13^th, 2009 at 8:10pm:


I still think you are exactly right that perhaps the majority of purchasers load up the airplane, firewall the thrust, and fly VFR.  I actually bought this to train for checkrides/recurrents at my airline, and boy was it a mistake!  Once again, beautiful outside, but as it is at the training academy, you can't see the outside, just the cockpit, and you live in the FMC.

Until there is a fix, which may be asking too much because they would need to completely redesign the FMC/AP system, the another company 767 will be my aircraft.  I think CS even advertising that this thing has a "full FMC" is sad...

Don't get me wrong, terrific attempt at a sim, but fix the darn thing!  It is unflyable as a commercial aircraft, only flyable as a big beautiful C172.

JB

And guess, what's going on if you fly online? It is like Stephen King Langolieres movie...
Seriously, the last time I've experienced CTD while approaching my destination airport after 4 hours flight a couple of days ago. I was directed by traffic control to different approach and RWY from those were inserted in FMC before... and just disappeared from their radars.

Yeah, it's got to be in their code and not a windows configuration thing as this airplane CTD's in both FS9 and FSX.

I would be interested to hear about a merge with another company. If there was a way to get the FMC replaced, that would be great.

Actually, if Captain Sim fixed it that would be even better.

Slowdive, as it was already mentioned in other topic, while choosing your departure/arrival runways don't select neither ILS_XX numbers nor SID/STARs. Scroll down to RWY numbers themselves and choose appropriate. In other words, IGNORE EVERYTHING on DEP/ARR page except "pure" RWY numbers for takeoff and landing. Don't worry about ILS frequencies & courses - they will appear correctly on INIT REF page. Then enter entire flight plan (including SIDs & STARs with their crossing restrictions) manually or import such a plan if you have one. Remove all discontinuities, complete your preflight procedures and fly away!  
Since I use this way - no CTD occurred for me.

Ah, I guess you were referring to the main FMC thread. Ok.

So what you are saying is just input EVERYTHING manually. Ok. Yeah, I suspect that will work. What a drag though.

CS, please fix it.

Beachdog2001,

That's true, it most likely would crash. What I would do in that situation is just not change it in the FMC. Just lookup the new ILS info in the charts. Granted this is not ideal, but we don't have much of a choice unless CS fixes the problem.

At least we've sort of narrowed down where the problem is. It really shouldn't be that tough to go in and squash this bug.

Hey, that's a great thought. I wonder if you could just use RTE1 and RTE2 and ping pong back and forth if you needed to make changes? I usually don't use that functionality so I'm not sure.

Of course then you couldn't use the RTE2 functionality as intended, but it's better than not being able to fly the plane.

Heh, I was just thinking, I'll bet we've expended more time and energy in this thread than CS has looking at the bug. Sad.

I get the same problem when putting in a restriction or closing a discontinuity.

I'm a bit of a novice at full fidelity airplanes, and have found the FMC a wonderful learning experience. I did have a few CTDs when trying to input FPLs into the FMC at first and thought it may be my lack of knowledge ... but now I've read this thread, maybe not. I have eventually flown KSEA to KSFO a couple of times now, with only the severe pitching after a while to contend with, fully under the command of the FMC. I have not tried to change arrival details yet though, or anything else enroute so I have that experience to look forward to.

With regard to the severe pitching it looks like it may be set off by active thermals generated by FSX ... perhaps .. maybe.

I too would love an update as well. Can we expect an update before Summer?

Well it should be sooner than later.

Forum isn't for support.  If that's what you're looking for, open a ticket.

I have yet to submit my ticket on this, but I am wondering if we can put heads together in this thread and find a common factor on the technical side of our systems.  Even after 4 pages I have noticed no one has mentioned anything about their systems.

I get the CTD when entering constraints.  That's the only spot I get the CTD so far.  In order to help Captain Sim see if there is a common componant causing this, I should mention:

• OS - Windows Vista Ultimate x64
• GPU - 4x ATI Radeon HD 4870 X2 Dual Core/2GB Memory
• CPU - AMD Athlon X2 6400+ 3.2GHz Dual Core
• Memory: 8GB OCZ DDR2

Really those are the only 4 things that could possibly affect anything in FSX, so I won't go any further than that.  I'll also include this information when I submit my ticket to CS  

On my particular system, I can do many successful flights as long as I do not try to enter or modify an altitude/speed constraint manually.

Thank you, the issue is on the list for Service Pack. We will do our best to address the issue as soon as possible. Please note, this forum is not for technical support. For technical support please check-in to Your Profile and use Customer Support link.

I'd suggest that your FSX install is broken or that you need newer graphics drivers.

First try upgrading your graphics drivers to latest.  Also see if you can post the following information as it may help:-

Which graphics card do you have?
Which FSX Service Pack do you have installed?  Or do you have acceleration?
How much RAM does your computer have?
Are you running any other FSX addons?

I have both service pacs in and I have traffic X along with the 757 captin sim . How do you update drivers Thanks

At this point just the 757 has not done it with the default yet .

I was programing a route from KOAK to KEDW. While on the ground, I was editing the speeds the FMC had listed for the apprach phase into KEDW. For the altitude of 3000A, the FMC had 240KTS. I typed 109/3000A, then pressed the appropriate LSK to enter the data. When I did this, FSX immediately exited. Has anyone else experienced this?

109 was the projected  Vref for the 757's weight at flaps 30.

Hi Boeing.

I can't help you with the FMC questions but I can help with the paint kit.

The kit comes hidden.  All you have to do is select the layers and show them all.
Depending on your particular paint program depends on how it is done.
I use Photoshop and all the layers are on the right hand side of the screen.  There is a box that you can click next to each layer which will show them.

Hope this helps...a bit anyway.

Dave

You should only use 100 as a max cost index. Also if you continue to have problems try using the config tool first. I found that made the cost index ctd bug go away.

Hi boing,

Glad you found my videos.

There is no magic button... but you can do it easily enough this way:

Load the default Baron 58.
Switch to the 2D cockpit.
Turn all switches and knobs off.
Load the 757.

I will be making more videos (some day, no time right now- they take a LOT of time to make!) and one of them will be the shutdown and secure lists.

All the information I'm conveying in my videos comes directly from the Captain Sim manuals, specifically the checklists.  The shutdown/secure lists are in there.

I've never had a CTD based on a cost index input.

Then again, 99% of the time, I use a cost index of 0 for max economy.  Most of the flights I use the 757 for are long, and I wish to carry minimum fuel for maximum distance.

Slowdive wrote on Apr 7^th, 2009 at 8:44pm:

Like i said earlier, "so can I"...i do not get a CTD with the fmc with any inputs including the cost index, i have set it at all different numbers, even higher than 100..usually have it set to 130-150, so this must be dependant on the hardwares?

The issue has been addressed in SP 4.3.