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I don't quite understand you here. If I can get the 3D VC HUD working, I remove the CS 2D HUD and HUD Glass entries from the panel.cfg, so all I have is the VC 3D HUD and the 2D Weapon Control Panel. That works for me.

For example in the the IRIS F-14 Tomcat:
This is how it look after adding Weapon for FSX:
[Window Titles]
Window00=Control Panel
Window04=
Window05=
Window06=
Window01=Weapon Control Panel
Window02=HUD
Window03=HUD Glass

So I have removed some and it now looks like this:
[Window Titles]
Window00=Control Panel
Window01=Weapon Control Panel

I then deleted the [Window02] and [Window03] entries further down the panel.cfg as well.

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I don't touch it. I do get a red circle appearing, but only briefly, then it is gone.

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I keep the CSWeapon 3D HUD at the same size and location as the default 3D HUD:

//gauge00=..\panel\F-14_Systems!HUD-V14,            13,12,1000,1000
gauge00=CSWeapon!hud3d, 13, 12, 1000, 1000
gauge01=..\panel\F-14_Systems!IRIS_F14WingsweepControl,  0,0,20,20
gauge02=..\panel\F-14_Systems!IRIS_F14WingsweepControlSetAutoMode,  0,0,20,20
gauge03=..\panel\F-14_Systems!SYSTEM_Onboard, 1,1,1,1
gauge04=..\panel\F-14_Systems!SYS-INIT, 1,1,1,1

All the other changes I have made are in the CSWeapon.xml:

<CollimationData>0.0,14.01,3.358,0.307</CollimationData> <- Default
<CollimationData>0.0,26.86,4.85,0.307</CollimationData> <- My changes

That is the only changes made to it so far, and it is sitting nicely in the VC of the F-14.
I only have one problem with it - it is white, not green! I am still looking for what I am doing wrong there.

The targeting is too high in the F-14 too. I'm still getting my head around how to fix it, then I'll let you know what to do (hopefully).

In the SDK it says "Pless Ctrl+0 or Ctrl+9 to check HUD calibration" so when I did it, the red circle was too high. I think this means I need to either change (reduce) the angle the the weapons fire at (0.039), or raise the 3D HUD.

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It could help. I did this for the A2A WoP3 Spitfire. In fact I moved the location of the guns to the correct position on the wings, and the rockets firing from beneath the wings. Changed the pitch angle down (which was needed for it in that instance). I also change the heading angle of them all so they were heading towards the centre of the Gun Site (not too much though). It did help in the Spitfire.

Here is the M60C:
<Station name="Nose" params="0,9,0,0,-0.039,0,200" /> <- ORIGINAL
<Station name="Left Wing Outer" params="-4.0,0,-0.5,0,-0.017,0,200" /> <- MODIFIED

See the differences in the xyz location and angles of incidence.

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From the manual:
0.307 – HUD radius (feet)

So it is the radius of the HUD. I played around with it in the F-14, but it either got too big or too small, but it is worth playing around with.

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Yes. I think it can. Changing the the dimensions in the panel.cfg can change the shape:
gauge03=CSWeapon!hud3d, 526, 515, 550, 550
Changing the last two numbers will change its shape. gauge03=CSWeapon!hud3d, 526, 515, 1000, 500 would make it elliptical in the vertical (like an Australian Rules, or Rugby, football being placed on its tip).

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Not yet. Been to busy today to look into it today (so far).

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2D HUD or 3D VC HUD?
Most aircraft with a HUD, have a switch to turn on/off the 3D VC HUD. But for the 2D HUD you would need to create an XML switch for it that you may or may not be able to put on a 3D panel in front of you.

I did this for the A2A WoP3 Spitfire. In fact I moved the location of the guns to the correct position on the wings, and the rockets firing from beneath the wings. Changed the pitch angle down (which was needed for it in that instance). I also change the heading angle of them all so they were heading towards the centre of the Gun Site (not too much though). It did help in the Spitfire.

when doing that did you notice the red circle move up or down?


tried changing the z parameter on the guns and missiles to 0.00  that moved the targeting circle to dead center hud (good)
but it didn't effect the radar sensor red circle that is still high

there has to be a parameter for that it is not screen dependent like the 2D hud so it has to be told where to be in relation to the aircraft

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  i doubt it is lined up with the aircraft eyepoint?? z axis in the aircraft cfg?

• it's not the colimation data... that moves the hud gauge

• when you calibrate the 2d hud the hudfov2d changes and when you change the hudfov3d the green hud gauge changes

I am perplexed

PHo27 wrote on Jul 31^st, 2012 at 6:26pm:
I have. And this is how I did it:

1. Add Weapon for FSX to all of the IRIS A-10A Warthog's.

2. In all of the IRIS A-10A Warthog - XXX\Panel.csweapon folders (EXCEPT the IRIS A-10A Warthog - CL), open the panel.cfg using windows notepad, select everything (CTRL+A) and DELETE it all. Then add this:

[fltsim]
alias=\IRIS A-10A Warthog - CL\Panel

And SAVE.

That should be all you need to do to get it working. It works for me.

PHo27 wrote on Aug 1^st, 2012 at 9:17am:

I haven't tried doing the 3D HUD for the IRIS A-10A, only for the IRIS F-14.

I think the reason it looks like that is that in the HUD collimation data, one of the coordinates needs to be reverse (the Z coordinate I think).

PHo27 wrote on Aug 1^st, 2012 at 5:50pm:
There is, but I'm trying to remember exactly what it is.
I remember that I had the same problem as you are having, and I'm sure that I changed one of the entries from a positive number to a negative number and so I got it sorted out.