CAPTAIN SIM FORUM - Engine start problem - (Ctrl+Shift+f4)

(UTC)


	Welcome, Guest. Please Login or Register

CAPTAIN SIM FORUM › 777 Captain (32-bit) › 777 Captain (32bit) - General › Engine start problem - (Ctrl+Shift+f4)

‹ Previous Topic | Next Topic ›

Page Index Toggle

Pages: 1

Engine start problem - (Ctrl+Shift+f4) (Read 8101 times)

LOLcakes Full Member Offline Posts: 155 Location: Sydney, AU Joined: Jan 27^th, 2012	Engine start problem - (Ctrl+Shift+f4) Feb 6^th, 2013 at 10:47am	Print Post
	Is it just me or has CaptainSim not done anything about the problem where you have to press Ctrl+Shift+f4 or you cannot start the engines.


	IP Logged

asanal Senior Member Offline Posts: 522 Location: Flemington,NJ USA Joined: Jul 9^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Engine start problem - (Shift+Alt+f4) Reply #1 - Feb 6^th, 2013 at 4:15pm	Print Post
	Try: CTRL+E


	IP Logged

Pinatubo Senior Member Offline Posts: 486 Location: Rio de Janeiro Brazil Joined: Apr 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Engine start problem - (Shift+Alt+f4) Reply #2 - Feb 6^th, 2013 at 6:00pm	Print Post
	Try [CTRL+E], as said by asanal. [CTRL+SHIFT+F4] just open the fuel valves, as well as [CTRL+SHIFT+F1] close them. Pinatubo. Edit: Sorry, I read [CTRL+SHIFT+F4] in your post, instead of [SHIFT+ALT+F4] as you wrote. I guess I'm getting old. Where are my glasses?

	My fleet (CS and from others developers): L1011; B777-200/F; B777-200/F (LR); MD-11/F;B737-600/700/800/900NG; B767-300/200/F/KC ; B757-300/200/F ; C130 X-perience All-In-One; B707-300/300C; B727-100/200; B737-200/200ADV; WX Radar
	IP Logged

LOLcakes Full Member Offline Posts: 155 Location: Sydney, AU Joined: Jan 27^th, 2012	Re: Engine start problem - (Shift+Alt+f4) Reply #3 - Feb 7^th, 2013 at 5:00am	Print Post
	Ooh I meant Ctrl+Shift+f4... But doesn't Ctrl+E just automatically start the engines?


	IP Logged

Markoz CS Team Offline Posts: 12373 Location: Victoria, Australia Joined: Apr 24^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Engine start problem - (Shift+Alt+f4) Reply #4 - Feb 7^th, 2013 at 7:19am	Print Post
	LOLcakes wrote on Feb 7^th, 2013 at 5:00am: Ooh I meant Ctrl+Shift+f4... � But doesn't Ctrl+E just automatically start the engines? I use CTRL+SHFT+F4 to put the mixture to FULL RICH (open the FUEL CONTROL SWITCHES), and start the engines with the START/IGNITION Selectors. I don't need to use CTRL+E to start them.

	Mark Fletcher PC: i7 10700K @3.8/5.1GHz \| 64GB DDR4 3200 \| 12GB RTX 4070 Super \| 32" LCD Monitor \| 1TB SSD & 2x2TB SSD \| Win 11 Pro - FSX/FSX-SE/P3D3/P3D4/P3D5/P3D6/MSFS2020 15.6" Gaming Laptop: i7 7700HQ \| 32GB DDR4 \| 6GB GTX 1060 \| 256GB SSD & 1TB HDD \| Win 10 Pro 64bit - FSX-SE/P3D4
	IP Logged

olli4740 Full Member Offline Posts: 91 Joined: Dec 14^th, 2012	Re: Engine start problem - (Shift+Alt+f4) Reply #5 - Feb 7^th, 2013 at 8:20am	Print Post
	LOLcakes wrote on Feb 6^th, 2013 at 10:47am: Is it just me or has CaptainSim not done anything about the problem where you have to press Shift+Alt+f4 or you cannot start the engines. In my effort to balance my posts against/in favour of Captain Sim: To my knowledge, this key stroke requirement comes from the internals of the Microsoft sim. It's not related to a particular A/C or a particular developers's A/C. The fuel mixture should only apply to piston engines but Microsoft mistakenly made it a requirement for jet engines, too. So it's not a bug of the CS 777, but rather an issue of MSFS erroneously putting a "mixture" parameter into jet engine operation. But maybe a developer can combine a "start lever on" command (applied by us, the pilots) with an internal "fuel mixture full rich" command (applied by the code of the CS 777), so there would be no need anymore for us to apply this key stroke command ourselves ...

	Regards, Oliver&&&&"Center, I have that little f... FOKKER in sight!"
	IP Logged

marius scheepers Full Member Offline Posts: 36 Location: South Africa Joined: Oct 22^nd, 2012 Gender:	Re: Engine start problem - (Shift+Alt+f4) Reply #6 - Feb 7^th, 2013 at 9:19am	Print Post
	I must add, that touch wood off course i have not yet had this problem of the engines not starting, i follow basically the same principal as you would on the 747 or 737, on the 777 you need to close some valves to bleed air from the APU to the correct engine you want to start, once you have the fan moving moving (cant remember what the figure is right now) i flip the Fuel Cutoff switch to on, i then close the valves to the running engine and open the no 2 engine valves and do the same.


	IP Logged

olli4740 Full Member Offline Posts: 91 Joined: Dec 14^th, 2012	Re: Engine start problem - (Shift+Alt+f4) Reply #7 - Feb 7^th, 2013 at 11:34am	Print Post
	marius scheepers wrote on Feb 7^th, 2013 at 9:19am: I must add, that touch wood off course i have not yet had this problem of the engines not starting, i follow basically the same principal as you would on the 747 or 737, on the 777 you need to close some valves to bleed air from the APU to the correct engine you want to start, once you have the fan moving moving (cant remember what the figure is right now) i flip the Fuel Cutoff switch to on, i then close the valves to the running engine and open the no 2 engine valves and do the same. The default startup state of MSFS is 'engine(s) running' - default Cessna at Seattle, the ultralight over Friday harbour respectively. So whenever you switch to your favourite A/C, fuel mixture is already set to 'full rich' right from the start. Try this one: Load the default Cessna with engine running. Then drag the fuel mixture lever to 'full lean' (cutoff). Now load another jet A/C (could be an addon A/C by a different developer or even one of the default jets). As far as I remember, the jet engine(s) will be off. And to get them back to life again, your usual flow will not get them running again: You must set the fuel mixture to '(full) rich' at the appropriate time (by means of this key stroke command) to work yourself around the MSFS internal bug ...

	Regards, Oliver&&&&"Center, I have that little f... FOKKER in sight!"
	IP Logged

Markoz CS Team Offline Posts: 12373 Location: Victoria, Australia Joined: Apr 24^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Engine start problem - (Shift+Alt+f4) Reply #8 - Feb 7^th, 2013 at 3:47pm	Print Post
	An easy fix for this is to make sure that the aircraft used in the default flight (even if the engine(s) are off) has it's Mixture Lever(s) set to 100%, then you won't need t use CTRL+SHIFT+F4.

	Mark Fletcher PC: i7 10700K @3.8/5.1GHz \| 64GB DDR4 3200 \| 12GB RTX 4070 Super \| 32" LCD Monitor \| 1TB SSD & 2x2TB SSD \| Win 11 Pro - FSX/FSX-SE/P3D3/P3D4/P3D5/P3D6/MSFS2020 15.6" Gaming Laptop: i7 7700HQ \| 32GB DDR4 \| 6GB GTX 1060 \| 256GB SSD & 1TB HDD \| Win 10 Pro 64bit - FSX-SE/P3D4
	IP Logged

olli4740 Full Member Offline Posts: 91 Joined: Dec 14^th, 2012	Re: Engine start problem - (Shift+Alt+f4) Reply #9 - Feb 7^th, 2013 at 9:00pm	Print Post
	LOLcakes wrote on Feb 6^th, 2013 at 10:47am: Is it just me or has CaptainSim not done anything about the problem where you have to press Shift+Alt+f4 or you cannot start the engines. I did you wrong on this one: Tried three add-on jets from three different developers today. Two out of these three do what you want Captain Sim A/C to do: They apply Ctrl+Shift+F4 automatically when I start the engines following procedures.

	Regards, Oliver&&&&"Center, I have that little f... FOKKER in sight!"
	IP Logged

LOLcakes Full Member Offline Posts: 155 Location: Sydney, AU Joined: Jan 27^th, 2012	Re: Engine start problem - (Shift+Alt+f4) Reply #10 - Feb 9^th, 2013 at 10:38am	Print Post
	I own CaptainSim's 767 and 737 and both aircraft apply Ctrl+Shift+f4 automatically, so I'm wondering why they left this out on the 777.


	IP Logged

mollau Full Member Offline Posts: 33 Joined: Feb 8^th, 2013	Re: Engine start problem - (Shift+Alt+f4) Reply #11 - Feb 9^th, 2013 at 12:32pm	Print Post
	LOLcakes wrote on Feb 9^th, 2013 at 10:38am: I own CaptainSim's 767 and 737 and both aircraft apply Ctrl+Shift+f4 automatically, so I'm wondering why they left this out on the 777. In which versions of the 737/767 had CS put it in? V1.0 already? Doesn't the 777 Captain appear a little bit like rushed to the market?

	Best,&&Markus&&&&"Is this thread for real or is it all an Ilyushin?"&&(BlueDiamond, 6th Mar 2008)&&
	IP Logged

LOLcakes Full Member Offline Posts: 155 Location: Sydney, AU Joined: Jan 27^th, 2012	Re: Engine start problem - (Ctrl+Shift+f4) Reply #12 - Feb 10^th, 2013 at 9:34am	Print Post
	Well according to my installer, I have 737-200 V1.0 and 767-300 V1.5.


	IP Logged

Page Index Toggle

Pages: 1

‹ Previous Topic | Next Topic ›

« Board Index ‹ Board ^Top

CAPTAIN SIM FORUM » Powered by YaBB 2.6.0!
YaBB Forum Software © 2000-2024. All Rights Reserved.

Valid XHTML

Valid CSS

Powered by Perl

Source Forge