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asanal Senior Member Offline Posts: 522 Location: Flemington,NJ USA Joined: Jul 9^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Doppler Navigation Reply #15 - Aug 23^rd, 2010 at 7:56pm	Print Post
	Tim, Here is, how I program the DN and I do not need to switch A to B . DN will make the switch according FS Flight plan and will take me to destination. 1-Turn "ON" DN at O/H panel 2-Turn DN "Auto" mode on the Central stand 3-Load the FS Flight PLan 4-First Leg mileage will appear in "A" DN unit 5-After Takeoff turn toward first leg course intercept 6-A/P engage / NAV mode "ON" Airplane will intercept to course. Watch the DN Needle. That is all I do.DN will followup FS Plan until to final destination . Sanal


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Jack Vogel Full Member Offline Posts: 55 Location: Portland, Oregon Joined: Dec 18^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Doppler Navigation Reply #16 - Aug 23^rd, 2010 at 9:08pm	Print Post
	When I'm connected to our ACARS server you can see that its just using GPS, ok so it gives a retro illusion and you have no map , it still feels a bit inauthentic if you know what I mean. Now I'm curious how they really did their navigation back in the 70s say. Anyone test the INS setup yet? I have been meaning to but got distracted this weekend.

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TheFinn Full Member Offline Posts: 143 Joined: Aug 7^th, 2007 Gender:	Re: Doppler Navigation Reply #17 - Aug 24^th, 2010 at 10:55am	Print Post
	Does the Doppler-Navigation System also work without a loaded FS-flightplan? Tried it yesterday, but it went horribly wrong...


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Tim Capps Senior Member Offline Defense Lawyer & US Navy JAG (ret), Writer Posts: 1070 Location: Southern Illinois Joined: May 21^st, 2009	Re: Doppler Navigation Reply #18 - Aug 24^th, 2010 at 11:38am	Print Post
	I have not been able to get the DNS to work without a flight plan. I have not been able to get it to deviate from the flight plan. I have been able to get it to follow an entire transatlantic flight plan with no problem. I figured the GPS was behind the DNS. Doesn't bother me... in fact it gives me a feeling of security

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Captain Sim 2 CS Team Offline Posts: 5564 Joined: Nov 8^th, 2005	Re: Doppler Navigation Reply #19 - Aug 25^th, 2010 at 7:55am	Print Post
	There is an issue with doppler, fix is already available. Please check-in to Your Profile, click Product name link and use Customer Support > Search KB > KB# 5953. We are sorry for inconvenience. Currently we are working on Doppler tutorial, please stand by.

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Trailboss Full Member Offline Posts: 231 Joined: Nov 30^th, 2008 Gender:	Re: Doppler Navigation Reply #20 - Aug 26^th, 2010 at 3:30pm	Print Post
	Question for Tim Capps: How did you prepare a transatlantic flight plan? � When I tried with other CS aircraft, JFK to Lisbon for example, FS wanted to route me way back west and then north and finally east, something like a 20 hour flight plan. �The only way I could get other aircraft to follow a transatlantic plan was to enter it as a GPS �direct route with only a beginning and end point, and then add by drag and drop in the map about 2 additional waypoints at each end of the route. �Even then sometimes the 757 and 767 went off track. �I haven't tried this with the 707 DNS as yet. Is there a better way? I haven't made the DNS modification Capatin Sim recommended in the KB; �does that matter?


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Tim Capps Senior Member Offline Defense Lawyer & US Navy JAG (ret), Writer Posts: 1070 Location: Southern Illinois Joined: May 21^st, 2009	Re: Doppler Navigation Reply #21 - Aug 26^th, 2010 at 5:12pm	Print Post
	It is a known bug that FSX will route you from New York to London via the scenic western Canadian detour. Co Pilot from Abacus will create a correct route, and so will FS Build. But for default FSX planning, I use your method of creating a GPS route, then dragging the line to the waypoints. It is tedious, but can result in a more realistic flight plan. I put in a lot more than a couple, though.

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Captain Sim 2 CS Team Offline Posts: 5564 Joined: Nov 8^th, 2005	Re: Doppler Navigation Reply #22 - Aug 26^th, 2010 at 6:10pm	Print Post
	The DOPPLER SYSTEM Quick Start tutorial is now available. Please check-in to Your Profile, click Product name link and use Customer Support > Search KB > KB# 5968.

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pavel Full Member Offline Posts: 16 Joined: Aug 20^th, 2010	Re: Doppler Navigation Reply #23 - Aug 26^th, 2010 at 7:08pm	Print Post
	Thanks a lot, sir. pavel


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Jack Vogel Full Member Offline Posts: 55 Location: Portland, Oregon Joined: Dec 18^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Doppler Navigation Reply #24 - Aug 26^th, 2010 at 7:51pm	Print Post
	Awesome, thank you CS, I'll have to check it out this evening!!

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Jack Vogel Full Member Offline Posts: 55 Location: Portland, Oregon Joined: Dec 18^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Doppler Navigation Reply #25 - Aug 26^th, 2010 at 7:55pm	Print Post
	Tim Capps wrote on Aug 26^th, 2010 at 5:12pm: It is a known bug that FSX will route you from New York to London via the scenic western Canadian detour. �Co Pilot from Abacus will create a correct route, and so will FS Build. �But for default FSX planning, I use your method of creating a GPS route, then dragging the line to the waypoints. �It is tedious, but can result in a more realistic flight plan. �I put in a lot more than a couple, though. When doing a transcontinental flight i usually will look at Vataware, you can look for flights that have been flown there and it give you a route. There is also 'vroute'. Once I have a route string, I'll use FSBuild to actually generate the flight plan. Still requires manual inspection for any errors but I'm fairly happy with the results.

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Tim Capps Senior Member Offline Defense Lawyer & US Navy JAG (ret), Writer Posts: 1070 Location: Southern Illinois Joined: May 21^st, 2009	Re: Doppler Navigation Reply #26 - Aug 26^th, 2010 at 8:37pm	Print Post
	The tutorial still is not working for me. �No course shows up on the map, and the route is not followed. �This is what I did. �Tell me where I'm going wrong:

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asanal Senior Member Offline Posts: 522 Location: Flemington,NJ USA Joined: Jul 9^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Doppler Navigation Reply #27 - Aug 27^th, 2010 at 1:56am	Print Post
	Tim, Did you load Flight Plan first and turn DN "On" and Main/Auto second? You have to turn DN "ON" and Main/Auto first, then you should load the Fs Flight Plan second. That is how I am doing and working perfect Sanal


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Tim Capps Senior Member Offline Defense Lawyer & US Navy JAG (ret), Writer Posts: 1070 Location: Southern Illinois Joined: May 21^st, 2009	Re: Doppler Navigation Reply #28 - Aug 27^th, 2010 at 1:58am	Print Post
	I can get it to work with a flight plan. I thought the tutorial was for using it without a loaded flight plan, but using the controls.

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asanal Senior Member Offline Posts: 522 Location: Flemington,NJ USA Joined: Jul 9^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Doppler Navigation Reply #29 - Aug 27^th, 2010 at 2:20am	Print Post
	You have to load flight plan or it will not work. DN doesn't create a flight plan .


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