I was interested in giving the Windows 10 Preview a try, but it was highly recommended that it not be installed on one's main computer! So I would have needed another computer to install it on, and I was not going to buy/build one just for Win10 Preview. But had I done so, I would have had a good idea of how FSX works in it.

While I have reserved my 2 free copies, one for my main computer (in which it will replace Win8.1, and be used as a second boot system), and one for my Laptop that will replace my Win7 installed on it, it won't be happening until around the last week in August.

So what if you buy Windows 10, instead of accepting the Free Upgrade? Wouldn't that be the same deal? After all, Windows 10 is Windows 10.

Markoz wrote on Jul 12^th, 2015 at 3:11am:


Purchasing a license will negate any of the aforementioned issues. You can turn off updates, roll them back, and have the option to opt out of any Apps or software MS offers via the SP's.

However, a important issue to to contemplate is the fact that Windows is no longer a OS Platform, it's a service. The biggest concern is this: while Windows 10 will seamlessly upgrade to Windows, your OS would evolve into a new product for which you have to pay. And by pay I mean it is going to be/already is a subscription based service.

I suggest you read the ToS regarding Win10.

I have resolved  this small issue by just relocating the taskbar to the side or top and making it auto. FSX works though the type seems to be a bit bigger, I do have new drivers for the graphics card which were loaded soon as windows 10 was installed. Overall seems to work ok.

UPDATE: Had to roll back to Windows 7, Video is just not compatible yet for my machine. Just a note Windows 10 comes with DirectX11 installed, just did not work for FSX.

What is your system configuration including your video graphics card. This is where my issue is according to Dell Tech support. My system is not yet fully compatible with Windows 10 according to them.

Nick Cooper wrote on Aug 1^st, 2015 at 7:21pm:


There is no misinformation, only what was stated at the time by MS themselves concerning the your 'privileges' with regards to Upgrade versions. I'd read the contract if I were you. Draconian is putting it lightly.

Nick Cooper wrote on Aug 6^th, 2015 at 9:55pm:


Wrong. Read the ToS. The only systems to receive that option are those running Enterprise or purchased the P-Ver, and that's covered under their LTSB clause in the license. Included in the Contract under Updates is the 'with your consent' nomenclature, referencing the forced update aspect. Your consent is already given when you checked the box and hit next.

Granted, you can set it to metered, but it is still going to actively attempt to DL updates, which includes a bunch of s%# you probably don't want. 

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/07/17/windows-10-forced-automatic-u...

Do you actually have Windows 10?

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You rolled back your install. You didn't roll back a update. Too little too late. You signed the contract.

The problem is that people read contracts the way they read books or any form of printed text. You can't do that. A Contract is literal. You cannot assume or interpret it according to your opinion. That’s the point of writing the contract: to rule away opinions about what are the rights and obligations. It does not say ONLY when necessary to provide you with the services you use.

Also, when it says This includes: the content..., the word includes is the key. Including something does not exclude any other thing. Yet, in case of doubt, the contract is explicit saying that any kind of data will be collected, for example we will access, disclose and preserve personal data, including your content or files in private folders.

The wording files in your private folders mean any file in any private folder. Not ONLY files you upload to the cloud. Again the word including specifies a subset of your personal data, but does not restrict it to only your content or files in private folders.

Still in doubt? Read this clause: In addition to those you explicitly provide, […] may also be inferred or derived from other data we collect. It completely denies any voluntary choice you may have in what you provide. There is no restriction to other data we collect. Is not even restricted to collecting the data through Windows. Any way of collecting data about you, even illegal, is made legal, because it is you will, as stated in said contract, when it says that Microsoft collects data with your consent. It does NOT say that you need to give your consent each time your data is collected. It says that Microsoft activities have your consent. It is a FACT as stated in the contract. Microsoft does not need you to consent ever again.

We also obtain data from third parties (including other companies). ANY third party. Anybody. Spying on you is now legal by any means. Remember, Microsoft now has the right to grab any of your passwords: Credentials. We collect passwords, password hints, and similar security information. It collects passwords. Not ONLY the ones you MAY provide. Not ONLY the ones belonging to you. Not ONLY computer passwords. If somebody has a locker combination written in a piece of paper, and that paper can be read by a webcam, Microsoft has the right to collect it.

It Collects Credentials. ANY credentials. Your passport is fair game. Your fingerprints, your drivers license, the card you use to cross a door at work, the wireless key needed to open your car, your photo, a 3D scan of your face, your pupil patterns, the makeup of the bombs you dropped in the ######ter this morning; ANY credential as is stated. So yes, absolutely and undeniable: it EXPLICITLY GIVES MICROSOFT PERMISSION TO ARBITRARILY TAKE YOUR FILES. Your files is not restricted to any specific computer. Not even a computer. Even a paper file is included.

Also if you read the contract, take in consideration that any word or phrase written in Uppercase is ONLY as a label, and it does not mean anything in a contract, unless defined in the contract.
For example, the title: How We Use Personal Data has no legal effect. You can delete it and nothing changes, unless some other clause defines it, or references it by that exact title, with that exact uppercase format. You cannot argue to a judge that ONLY that clause describes how your data is used. You cannot argue that you were misdirected by that text, the same way you cannot argue that you didn’t read the small letter because…

Bing services are also included within other Microsoft services, such as MSN Apps and Cortana, and Windows (which we refer to as Bing-powered experiences). So, if yo do read Bing-powered, it means Windows. You may access Bing-powered experiences when using other non-Microsoft services, such as those from Yahoo. So if you use Linux or Macintosh, and you use Firefox, which defaults to yahoo search, and you do not change Yahoo search to another search engine, you sign the contract.

So, as you can see, a contract is full of bobby traps. You may think that it says something, but actually it says something else entirely. Only a lawyer versed in this arena is trained to fully understand contracts, and this one is a really Orwellian.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLiozMpqV80&t=2m39s

Do what you want. I personally don't care. But perhaps, just maybe, you should.

Fly from Portland wrote on Aug 30^th, 2015 at 1:29pm:


Now that is asinine.

It's one thing to have your Government do this. Most national security orgs have been doing it for a long time. However, it's something else entirely to have a private corporation do this. 

I'm giving Win10 a year or two before I invest in it. I'd rather buy so when there's a problem, I can really stick it to support if I have an issue. But most of the time I figure out an OS so I end up fixing my own issues.  However it's still too buggy for me to use for some of the other programs I have right now, still on Win7pro. I say if it's not broken, no need to fix.

Nick Cooper wrote on Aug 1^st, 2015 at 7:21pm:


""Finally, I have it, everything that worked before works now, often a little better"" ?????????????????????

in Response to "Nick Cooper" post ?

Mr. Cooper, you say you have "everything" that worked before , works now.

What Exactly may that be, enlighten everybody here just exactly what "everything" is exactly.

Very "Vague" information you provided, please go into more Detail and enlighten us !!

Why change when it's running well?


I have installed 10 on two laptops but only because I can't stand 8.

My desktop is staying on W7 ultimate for the foreseeable future, it's working really well and the best MS operating system since 2000.

JetRanger wrote on Nov 18^th, 2015 at 11:23pm:


Sorry, no.

I would have hoped that someone using FSX and Captain Sim products on Windows 10, would have responded to this by now.

I have Windows 10 installed, but as yet, no FSX, or Captain Sim products, have been installed, so I can't provide you with an answer just yet.

Hi- I have had no issues with the C 130- 767 and 757. Seems that converting to W10 has no impact whatsoever.

Cheers

Finally have fsx working with Windows 10.  Had to not select DX10 preview mode, used antialiasing, and Trilinear, as suggested by others.  Have not reinstalled Ultimate Traffic 2 yet, which I uninstalled after it gave the false message 'Please register this product before you try to use it'.  The 777 seems to fly just as it had with Windows 7, and hope the other Captain Sim aircraft will also.

Jim Kaye 

I have now been using Windows 10 for awhile.  Using the Captain Sim 777, and flying from KSEA to KSFO, I consistently would get Out of Memory errors with the settings I had previously used with Windows 7 Home Edition.  It appears that the OOM occurs when the VAS (using Process Explorer) gets up to about 3,200,000K.  I have been using 4 monitors - one for the instrument panel and 3 for the forward or spot view.  By only using three monitors, and cutting back on the graphics card settings in fsx I am able to complete this flight without OOM errors.  My Alienware Aurora system has 9 GB of DDR3 RAM,  and I just ordered 24 GB of DDR3 RAM, which hopefully will allow using all four monitors again and higher graphics settings.  I am also using ORBX scenery (PNW, Northern California) for this test flight.

The CS 777 seems to require more VAS than some of the other aircraft, but they also have OOM problems with 4 monitors.  Have not yet tried other CS aircraft, but the 777 flies very well.

Jim Kaye

"'FSX is a 32-bit application and it won't use more than 4GB under any circumstance""

Tho True, what some fail to realize is that aside from running FSX, Flight Simmers often run other programs along side FSX, which require more RAM (Memory) to make everything work seamlessly !

They may include :
Flight Yokes
Rudder peddles
Throttle Quadrants
Eye or head tracking tracking software
Screen Recording software
AI Traffic software
Weather Software
GPS Navigation software
Multi-Screen set ups
and a host of who knows what software & Hardware

For the Basic Generic Flight Sim user, the above statement may hold true ,,,,,

But for the rest of us who are Deep into Flight Simming with some pretty complex Aircraft, the more RAM and the high quality Graphics card and Higher Quality Processor is whats needed ~ !!! 

I have a decent Quad core processor
2GB XFX Graphics card
16GB of RAM

I use 2 separate computers - 1 solely just for Flight Simming only
The other which is almost identical with a tad bit less RAM for everyday general purpose computing and Editing my Flight Sim Videos for YOU TUBE.

Jetranger
Sim Hanger on YOU TUBE

Since I put 32GB of RAM in my computer, FSX has run better. So my theory is this:

I think it all comes down to how much RAM Windows allows FSX to use. Once you have a certain amount of RAM on your computer available, FSX eventually gets the full 4GB of RAM it requires. This seems to be somewhere between 16GB and 32GB.

I have not had an OOM for a very long time now, and definitely not since I installed the 32GB of RAM. But then again, I no longer have any 3rd party scenery installed either (I uninstalled it some time after I put the 32GB of RAM in my computer), and when I did, it was only Obyx FTX (AU, NZNI, NZSI, and a lot of Aussie airports).

Edit. My system isn't overclocked, and only I only have a single 24" monitor (as per my specs in my signature).

I switched over to 10 a while back and found some of the same problems that I had with 8 are still there with all planes. One annoying problem is the crash to desktop. It seems to be random sometimes occurring within a few minutes and other times toward the end of the flight.

I just did a flight for about 45 minutes with the CS 757 and ad-on another company scenery. I left the mail program running and am using Logitech G-940 set-up for controls. I have the graphics sliders mostly to the right, maybe a few just back a notch to the left. NO CTD! Rare indeed. It doesn't seem to matter which planes I'm flying for the CTD.

As some of you may know, I present talks on cruise ships and use FSX as part of the talk. I have kept my ASUS laptop on Win 7 to avoid the CTD. I don't care for Steam, and don't like the look of P3D as yet.

Lou