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marvic Senior Member Offline Posts: 280 Location: Canada CYWG Joined: Mar 22^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: FDE fix for start-up surging Reply #15 - Dec 10^th, 2012 at 6:38pm	Print Post
	N3su wrote on Dec 10^th, 2012 at 6:12pm: me doesn't work ,at the start up it happening nothing .apu is still is on but engines doesn't start �it well .i do every thing what it in start up procedures writing . anybody ? Hi N3suten, the bleed switch needs to be on for the engine you are starting. This the only way you get pressure to turn the turbine. APU bleed on 1 bleed on 1 start on 1 add fuel try that.

	Cheers, Mark Win7 64bit, i5 2500K 4.2Ghz, Gigabit Z68X-UD4-BE, GSkill 12800 DDR3 8gig ram, GTX960,WD 2t, 250gb SSD, P3Dv3, GSX, REX E. EZDok, Accu-Feel, ORBX,Track IR5, Saitek PRO; Yoke, pedals, Xtra throttles & headset
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N3su Full Member Offline Posts: 25 Location: Germany Joined: Dec 10^th, 2012 Gender:	Re: FDE fix for start-up surging Reply #16 - Dec 10^th, 2012 at 6:57pm	Print Post
	Hi Marvic , many thanks for ur quick n smooth help ,i found the failure if i switch the Engine bleed air it illuminated a lamp with a subscribe �"DUAL BLEED" but i reed it as * Dual Failed * well. � now it works fine and pretty . Best Regards � sorry for my bad english marvic wrote on Dec 10^th, 2012 at 6:38pm: N3su wrote on Dec 10^th, 2012 at 6:12pm: me doesn't work ,at the start up it happening nothing .apu is still is on but engines doesn't start �it well .i do every thing what it in start up procedures writing . anybody ? Hi N3suten, the bleed switch needs to be on for the engine you are starting. This the only way you get pressure to turn the turbine. APU bleed on 1 bleed on 1 start on 1 add fuel try that.


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marvic Senior Member Offline Posts: 280 Location: Canada CYWG Joined: Mar 22^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: FDE fix for start-up surging Reply #17 - Dec 10^th, 2012 at 8:00pm	Print Post
	N3su wrote on Dec 10^th, 2012 at 6:57pm: Hi Marvic , many thanks for ur quick n smooth help ,i found the failure if i switch the Engine bleed air it illuminated a lamp with a subscribe �"DUAL BLEED" but i reed it as * Dual Failed * well. � now it works fine and pretty . Best Regards � sorry for my bad english marvic wrote on Dec 10^th, 2012 at 6:38pm: N3su wrote on Dec 10^th, 2012 at 6:12pm: me doesn't work ,at the start up it happening nothing .apu is still is on but engines doesn't start �it well .i do every thing what it in start up procedures writing . anybody ? Hi N3suten, the bleed switch needs to be on for the engine you are starting. This the only way you get pressure to turn the turbine. APU bleed on 1 bleed on 1 start on 1 add fuel try that. Great to hear you have it working. English is NOT the only language in the world, No apologies needed.

	Cheers, Mark Win7 64bit, i5 2500K 4.2Ghz, Gigabit Z68X-UD4-BE, GSkill 12800 DDR3 8gig ram, GTX960,WD 2t, 250gb SSD, P3Dv3, GSX, REX E. EZDok, Accu-Feel, ORBX,Track IR5, Saitek PRO; Yoke, pedals, Xtra throttles & headset
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olegPanchuk Full Member Offline Posts: 6 Location: Kiev Joined: Nov 1^st, 2010 Gender:	Re: FDE fix for start-up surging Reply #18 - Dec 26^th, 2012 at 12:32pm	Print Post
	Good day. I have the same problem. not rotate the turbine. I do everything on chek list: apu on bleed on packs off 35 psi ENGINE START switch GRD N2 turns dead Maybe there is something that I've missed?


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marvic Senior Member Offline Posts: 280 Location: Canada CYWG Joined: Mar 22^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: FDE fix for start-up surging Reply #19 - Dec 26^th, 2012 at 3:14pm	Print Post
	olegPanchuk wrote on Dec 26^th, 2012 at 12:32pm: Good day. I have the same problem. not rotate the turbine. I do everything on chek list: apu on bleed on packs off 35 psi ENGINE START switch GRD N2 turns dead Maybe there is something that I've missed? I see you have the bleed on, I'm guessing that is for the APU. Just make sure for the first engine you start, say number one, make sure the bleed is also on for that engine, otherwise no pressure will get to the engine. After starting number 1, then set number 2 engine bleed on and start that one. On the -100 & -200 series, the engine bleed switches also put the pressure to the engines. This is also the same for the GPU start procedure, if you open both engine bleed switches on start-up, there will be too much pressure loss to turn the turbine. I hope this helps.

	Cheers, Mark Win7 64bit, i5 2500K 4.2Ghz, Gigabit Z68X-UD4-BE, GSkill 12800 DDR3 8gig ram, GTX960,WD 2t, 250gb SSD, P3Dv3, GSX, REX E. EZDok, Accu-Feel, ORBX,Track IR5, Saitek PRO; Yoke, pedals, Xtra throttles & headset
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olegPanchuk Full Member Offline Posts: 6 Location: Kiev Joined: Nov 1^st, 2010 Gender:	Re: FDE fix for start-up surging Reply #20 - Dec 27^th, 2012 at 6:43pm	Print Post
	Thanks, it worked. I opened the bleed two engines, as in other Boing that is my mistake.


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AirCanadaGuy Ex Member	Re: FDE fix for start-up surging Reply #21 - Dec 31^st, 2012 at 12:19am	Print Post
	I found that it worked very well, I might be imagining it but did it increase the thrust values? It seems like it's faster again after I have set the lower thrust value in the aircraft.cfg.


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marvic Senior Member Offline Posts: 280 Location: Canada CYWG Joined: Mar 22^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: FDE fix for start-up surging Reply #22 - Dec 31^st, 2012 at 1:29am	Print Post
	olegPanchuk wrote on Dec 27^th, 2012 at 6:43pm: Thanks, it worked. I opened the bleed two engines, as in other Boing that is my mistake. Sorry for the late reply, glad it worked.

	Cheers, Mark Win7 64bit, i5 2500K 4.2Ghz, Gigabit Z68X-UD4-BE, GSkill 12800 DDR3 8gig ram, GTX960,WD 2t, 250gb SSD, P3Dv3, GSX, REX E. EZDok, Accu-Feel, ORBX,Track IR5, Saitek PRO; Yoke, pedals, Xtra throttles & headset
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