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Re: New Ground Service for the 767
Reply #15 - Feb 13th, 2012 at 9:25pm
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You should add the picture over there, Otto. Helps the devs understanding your problem. Wait, Mark has the copyright on that picture.  Shocked
  
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Re: New Ground Service for the 767
Reply #16 - Feb 14th, 2012 at 12:54am
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It is a misalignment of the 767's interior model with its exterior model as created by Captain Sim! It has nothing to do with GSX. GSX aligns with the exterior location of the doors (and everything else) perfectly. I was just pointing out how disappointing it is that the interior and exterior models don't align correctly. Sad

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Re: New Ground Service for the 767
Reply #17 - Feb 17th, 2012 at 8:12pm
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Thanks Mark, too bad its a Captain Sim Problem. Won't affect me much as I am still digging the GSX!
  
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Re: New Ground Service for the 767
Reply #18 - Feb 18th, 2012 at 1:34am
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ottoramsaig wrote on Feb 17th, 2012 at 8:12pm:
Won't affect me much as I am still digging the GSX!
It was just something I observed when I wanted to watch them, from the 767 galleys, bring the catering carts inside. Wink
I'm still have great fun with GSX too. I love the different sized buses that come out depending on the size of the planes passenger capacity. A little bus, like a Toyota Tarago for the Cessna, compared with a big bus for 737-100/200.
  

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Re: New Ground Service for the 767
Reply #19 - Feb 18th, 2012 at 1:44am
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I bought GSX and I'm generally very pleased with it!!  Cheesy

Just wish they could put the 767-300 into the right medium category - as it is there's only place for the GSX "circus" on the heavies gate/parkings!

Also I could wish for a FollowMe Car to the runways.  Roll Eyes
  

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Re: New Ground Service for the 767
Reply #20 - Feb 18th, 2012 at 6:11am
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Morten wrote on Feb 18th, 2012 at 1:44am:
I bought GSX and I'm generally very pleased with it!!  Cheesy

Just wish they could put the 767-300 into the right medium category - as it is there's only place for the GSX "circus" on the heavies gate/parkings!

Also I could wish for a FollowMe Car to the runways.  Roll Eyes

I've had the767-300 parking problems too. Have you tried the parking editor? That might sort out the 767-300 parking problems. But I have my doubts.

I agree with the FollowMe Car TO runways as well.

Both of these should be added in the GSX support forum. I will +1 them if you do! Wink Or I could do it myself. Grin

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Re: New Ground Service for the 767
Reply #21 - Feb 18th, 2012 at 2:39pm
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Markoz wrote on Feb 18th, 2012 at 6:11am:
Morten wrote on Feb 18th, 2012 at 1:44am:
I bought GSX and I'm generally very pleased with it!!  Cheesy

Just wish they could put the 767-300 into the right medium category - as it is there's only place for the GSX "circus" on the heavies gate/parkings!

Also I could wish for a FollowMe Car to the runways.  Roll Eyes

I've had the767-300 parking problems too. Have you tried the parking editor? That might sort out the 767-300 parking problems. But I have my doubts.

I agree with the FollowMe Car TO runways as well.

Both of these should be added in the GSX support forum. I will +1 them if you do! Wink Or I could do it myself. Grin

Mark


Sure Mark I will and I've planed to - just have to pull me self together and do all that dragging forum registration stuff, you know...zzzz

PS. Cross fingers for your great Aussie tennis player, Sam Stosur, today at Doha semi finals...she is my favored player!
  

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Re: New Ground Service for the 767
Reply #22 - Feb 18th, 2012 at 9:13pm
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Don't hesitate to post some wishes over at FSDT. I already saw that one with the 'to runway' car, but the one with the parking editor and the forced category of the plane might be new.
  
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Re: New Ground Service for the 767
Reply #23 - Feb 20th, 2012 at 11:36pm
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Morten wrote on Feb 18th, 2012 at 2:39pm:
Markoz wrote on Feb 18th, 2012 at 6:11am:
Morten wrote on Feb 18th, 2012 at 1:44am:
I bought GSX and I'm generally very pleased with it!!  Cheesy

Just wish they could put the 767-300 into the right medium category - as it is there's only place for the GSX "circus" on the heavies gate/parkings!

Also I could wish for a FollowMe Car to the runways.  Roll Eyes

I've had the767-300 parking problems too. Have you tried the parking editor? That might sort out the 767-300 parking problems. But I have my doubts.

I agree with the FollowMe Car TO runways as well.

Both of these should be added in the GSX support forum. I will +1 them if you do! Wink Or I could do it myself. Grin

Mark


Sure Mark I will and I've planed to - just have to pull me self together and do all that dragging forum registration stuff, you know...zzzz

PS. Cross fingers for your great Aussie tennis player, Sam Stosur, today at Doha semi finals...she is my favored player!


DONE!  Wink
  

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Re: New Ground Service for the 767
Reply #24 - Feb 21st, 2012 at 12:53am
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Morten wrote on Feb 20th, 2012 at 11:36pm:
Morten wrote on Feb 18th, 2012 at 2:39pm:
Markoz wrote on Feb 18th, 2012 at 6:11am:
Morten wrote on Feb 18th, 2012 at 1:44am:
I bought GSX and I'm generally very pleased with it!!  Cheesy

Just wish they could put the 767-300 into the right medium category - as it is there's only place for the GSX "circus" on the heavies gate/parkings!

Also I could wish for a FollowMe Car to the runways.  Roll Eyes

I've had the767-300 parking problems too. Have you tried the parking editor? That might sort out the 767-300 parking problems. But I have my doubts.

I agree with the FollowMe Car TO runways as well.

Both of these should be added in the GSX support forum. I will +1 them if you do! Wink Or I could do it myself. Grin

Mark


Sure Mark I will and I've planed to - just have to pull me self together and do all that dragging forum registration stuff, you know...zzzz

PS. Cross fingers for your great Aussie tennis player, Sam Stosur, today at Doha semi finals...she is my favored player!


DONE!  Wink

OK. I added my +1 to them, so here's hoping!

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Reply #25 - Feb 21st, 2012 at 2:18am
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Re: New Ground Service for the 767
Reply #26 - Feb 21st, 2012 at 7:55am
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You know, when i was using the another company AES program, it did the same thing. (looking at my plane from the top view) My wing was actually in back of the gate (that was connected to my plane) but when i went to my wing view, my wing was in front of the jetway. The wing looked normal sized but the gate looked huge so i think its just the airplane coordinates thingy majig.
  


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Reply #27 - Feb 21st, 2012 at 6:22pm
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Re: New Ground Service for the 767
Reply #28 - Feb 21st, 2012 at 8:12pm
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Kalai wrote on Feb 21st, 2012 at 7:55am:
You know, when i was using the another company AES program, it did the same thing. (looking at my plane from the top view) My wing was actually in back of the gate (that was connected to my plane) but when i went to my wing view, my wing was in front of the jetway. The wing looked normal sized but the gate looked huge so i think its just the airplane coordinates thingy majig.


Interesting observation there, Kalai...!
Both Mark and I have contacted the GSX support, but here we where refused by the statement that GSX simply uses the airports AFCAD file in conjunction with the actual size of the airplane in order to determine the correct parking/gate ..!

http://www.fsdreamteam.com/forum/index.php?topic=5949.0
http://www.fsdreamteam.com/forum/index.php?topic=5941.0

So one way or the other, something is definitely wrong here...

Since I started flying the CS 767-300 I have had strange issues with building crashes and ATC directions to outskirted parking spots in all stock and addon airports. And now this issue with GSX..!
A time ago I complained to another company, telling them that something had to be wrong with their parking radius settings in their AFCAD files. They did their best to help me, but couldn't find any errors in that respect.

Then I finally ran into this statement from the GSX developer:

If the parking radius is smaller than half of your wingspan, GSX will say it's too small for your aircraft because it IS too small, at least this is what the AFCAD says.

With this important statement in mind I then did a little calculation this evening:

CS 767-300/Aircraft.cfg:
wing_span=156.083333 (feet) = 47.55 m. /2 = R23.78 m.

I then checked the wing span of a real 767-300 and found that the 156 feet CS 767-300/Aircraft.cfg is correct.
Then I checked AFCAD files via ADE for both FSX stock airports and from several addon airports - it turned out that ALL the airports Medium parking radius are set to 23 m. Period!!!
In other words, 0,78 m too small in order to accept the CS 767-300  magnificent and true 47.55 m. wingspan!   Cry  




  

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Re: New Ground Service for the 767
Reply #29 - Feb 22nd, 2012 at 12:16am
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Nice find, Morten. Now if you would edit the wingspan of the 767 slightly, it may work. I don't think that this value has much effects on e. g. the aircraft behaviour or even the optics. It may just be there for the crash detection and for the things like the pushback.
FSX models the flight model based on other parameters if I'm correct, so the enhanced parking and slightly altered crash detection may indeed be the only noticeable effects.

To back up my assumption, here's the text from the FSX SDK.
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This section has been added mainly for reference. Although you can edit these values by hand here in the aircraft.cfg file, modification of some of these variables will have little to no effect on airplane performance, as the flight model aerodynamic coefficients are all located in the .air file.

So maybe give it a try to get her running at the medium parking.
  
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