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SoulFlight Full Member Offline Posts: 42 Joined: Apr 26^th, 2010	Screen flickering in VC view May 17^th, 2011 at 9:25pm	Print Post
	My 707 developed a strange issue recently: in VC view the screen shows flickering, random artifacts which are really annoying. I didnt change my video driver or any setup option recently. Running Win7 64bit and a nvidia GTS250 1 GB videocard. any ideas on this?


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boeing247 Senior Member Offline Pilots: Looking down on people since 1903 Posts: 1506 Location: Southern CA Joined: Feb 23^rd, 2011 Gender:	Re: Screen flickering in VC view Reply #1 - May 18^th, 2011 at 12:58am	Print Post
	Are you talking about the black bar that runs through the VC? A reinstall might fix it...

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fs_addict Full Member Offline Posts: 173 Joined: Mar 3^rd, 2011	Re: Screen flickering in VC view Reply #2 - May 18^th, 2011 at 1:22am	Print Post
	Also, this happens on weaker graphics drivers, but if you have the GTS 250 that shouldn't be a problem.

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Markoz CS Team Offline Posts: 12368 Location: Victoria, Australia Joined: Apr 24^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Screen flickering in VC view Reply #3 - May 18^th, 2011 at 3:13am	Print Post
	Using ACE, select Flight Deck Only. That will ease the load on your Graphics Card. Mark

	Mark Fletcher PC: i7 10700K @3.8/5.1GHz \| 64GB DDR4 3200 \| 12GB RTX 4070 Super \| 32" LCD Monitor \| 1TB SSD & 2x2TB SSD \| Win 11 Pro - FSX/FSX-SE/P3D3/P3D4/P3D5/P3D6/MSFS2020 15.6" Gaming Laptop: i7 7700HQ \| 32GB DDR4 \| 6GB GTX 1060 \| 256GB SSD & 1TB HDD \| Win 10 Pro 64bit - FSX-SE/P3D4
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SoulFlight Full Member Offline Posts: 42 Joined: Apr 26^th, 2010	Re: Screen flickering in VC view Reply #4 - May 19^th, 2011 at 1:45pm	Print Post
	OK I did some testing: bufferpools around 500 000 000 solves this problem, however, FSX starts to develop crazy...well....x-rated errors with this after a while: http://img4web.com/view/8FS78E but lowering the bufferpools to 400 000 000 brings back the flashing spikes and polygons in cockpit view. @markoz are you telling me to fly on less details with an OCed 4 Ghz CPU and 8 Gigs of RAM? Do I really have to consider to go for a 300 � + Video Card with around 2 GB to have everything running fine?


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Markoz CS Team Offline Posts: 12368 Location: Victoria, Australia Joined: Apr 24^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Screen flickering in VC view Reply #5 - May 19^th, 2011 at 3:51pm	Print Post
	It sometimes happens with me and I just reload the 707 and it usually goes away. I didn't know what your system was as you never mentioned it. I just thought that might have been the problem. Mark

	Mark Fletcher PC: i7 10700K @3.8/5.1GHz \| 64GB DDR4 3200 \| 12GB RTX 4070 Super \| 32" LCD Monitor \| 1TB SSD & 2x2TB SSD \| Win 11 Pro - FSX/FSX-SE/P3D3/P3D4/P3D5/P3D6/MSFS2020 15.6" Gaming Laptop: i7 7700HQ \| 32GB DDR4 \| 6GB GTX 1060 \| 256GB SSD & 1TB HDD \| Win 10 Pro 64bit - FSX-SE/P3D4
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SoulFlight Full Member Offline Posts: 42 Joined: Apr 26^th, 2010	Re: Screen flickering in VC view Reply #6 - May 19^th, 2011 at 11:21pm	Print Post
	I know, sorry reloading the aircraft is not really possible when in a flight with fspassengers. But well, it happend to me every time since, only way to fix it seem the bufferpool entry, a too high value leads to the artifacts seen in the picture, too low and the flickering starts......


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Markoz CS Team Offline Posts: 12368 Location: Victoria, Australia Joined: Apr 24^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Screen flickering in VC view Reply #7 - May 20^th, 2011 at 12:17pm	Print Post
	You're right. Another thing, with v1.3, every time you reload the aircraft too many things get reset. It makes it difficult if you have everything nicely set. Mark

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SoulFlight Full Member Offline Posts: 42 Joined: Apr 26^th, 2010	Re: Screen flickering in VC view Reply #8 - May 24^th, 2011 at 7:01pm	Print Post
	Well however, I set the bufferpools to 0, that worked to solve the strange-object-transformation issue, which wasnt a CS related problem, and also gave me a huge performance leap, but now for some reason the flickering textures in the VC of the 707 returned. @ Captain Sim: my PC should be able to take the 707 with Flight Deck and cabin view ON, I also found various threads of other customers regarding that issue. It seems there is a problem with the 707's virtual cockpit and cabin for some users like me WHO SPENT A LOT OF MONEY PURCHASING THIS PLANE! Right now, the bird is unusable to me. So please, fix it! thanks! Here is, once again, my system: Phenom II x4 965 @ 3,9 Ghz, 8 GB DDR2 RAM, nvidia GTS250 1 GB DDR3, Win7 64bit, FSX Acceleration.... as well as my current fsx.cfg settings: Code [Display] ChangeTime=2.000000 TransitionTime=2.000000 ActiveWindowTitleTextColor=255,255,255 ActiveWindowTitleBackGroundColor=0,28,140,64 NonActiveWindowTitleTextColor=255,255,255 NonActiveWindowTitleBackGroundColor=24,33,87,64 InfoUpperRightTextColor=255,0,0 InfoUpperRightBackGroundColor=0,0,0,0 InfoLowerLeftTextColor=255,255,255 InfoLowerLeftBackGroundColor=255,0,0,128 InfoLowerRightTextColor=255,255,255 InfoLowerRightBackGroundColor=255,0,0,128 InfoBrakesEnable=False InfoParkingBrakesEnable=True InfoPauseEnable=False InfoSlewEnable=True InfoStallEnable=False InfoOverspeedEnable=False BLOOM_EFFECTS=0 SKINNED_ANIMATIONS=1 TEXTURE_BANDWIDTH_MULT=70 UPPER_FRAMERATE_LIMIT=0 WideViewAspect=False [GRAPHICS] HIGHMEMFIX=1 ALLOW_SHADER_30=1 SHADER_CACHE_VERSION=11 STALE_BUFFER_THRESHOLD=2147483647 SHADER_CACHE_PRIMED=1693500683 TEXTURE_MAX_LOAD=4096 NUM_LIGHTS=8 AIRCRAFT_SHADOWS=1 AIRCRAFT_REFLECTIONS=1 COCKPIT_HIGH_LOD=1 LANDING_LIGHTS=1 AC_SELF_SHADOW=1 EFFECTS_QUALITY=2 GROUND_SHADOWS=0 TEXTURE_QUALITY=3 IMAGE_QUALITY=0 See_Self=1 Text_Scroll=1 SHADER_CACHE_PRIMED_10=1693500683 D3D10=0 [TERRAIN] LOD_RADIUS=4.500000 MESH_COMPLEXITY=100 MESH_RESOLUTION=22 TEXTURE_RESOLUTION=29 AUTOGEN_DENSITY=5 DETAIL_TEXTURE=1 WATER_EFFECTS=7 TERRAIN_MAX_AUTOGEN_TREES_PER_CELL=1500 TERRAIN_MAX_AUTOGEN_BUILDINGS_PER_CELL=4000 [BufferPools] PoolSize=0


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Captain A Full Member Offline Posts: 9 Joined: May 25^th, 2011	Re: Screen flickering in VC view Reply #9 - Jun 16^th, 2011 at 10:54pm	Print Post
	Hi, I have that same flicker in the virtual cockpit and cabin which makes this plane useless to me . If I do virtual cockpit only it goes away, however I purchased the 707 Captain v1.3 only because of the cabin ! Resetting the aircraft or even the computer don't help . All my other Captain Sim aircraft work fine (727,767, etc.) . The 707 being the only one to have a check box in ace to turn off the cabin proves there is a problem . And there is no way it's because of my system : i7 975 Extreme cpu , 2 X 6990 video cards 4GB's each (thats 8GB's of video memery) tell me thats not enough ), 16GB's of the fastest RAM and SD Hard Drives !!! Does anyone know of a fix ? Or can Captain Sim create v1.4 to address this bug ! This has to be there best aircraft and it would be a shame to delete it .


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Captain A Full Member Offline Posts: 9 Joined: May 25^th, 2011	Re: Screen flickering in VC view Reply #10 - Jun 17^th, 2011 at 2:09am	Print Post
	I tryed adding this to the bottom of my fsx.cfg : [BUFFERPOOLS] Poolsize=250000000 Did'nt do a thing ! Another problem with the cabin loaded is when you do a replay, everthing in the FSX world flickers ! I have room for 4 more of those 6990 video cards , I just don't have the $3000.00 . O'well, even if I can't use the best FSX airplane cabin ever made , with the nice card tables , etc , etc. , I still love Captain Sim . There planes are the best, period !!! There great work is what had me build a good computer .


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Markoz CS Team Offline Posts: 12368 Location: Victoria, Australia Joined: Apr 24^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Screen flickering in VC view Reply #11 - Jun 17^th, 2011 at 4:08am	Print Post
	All my other Captain Sim aircraft work fine (727,767, etc.) Sorry, but the above statement is wrong. The CS767 ACE does have that option (see image). The reason is because the amount of extra textures and polygons are very demanding on the computer, lesser computers will struggle. The main difference with the 707 is that it is using HD textures that require a lot more processing power by both the CPU and GPU. Another problem with the cabin loaded is when you do a replay, everthing in the FSX world flickers The same reason above, with regards to the textures and power needed to view, applies. Hope this helps

	CS767ACE.jpg (Attachment deleted) Mark Fletcher PC: i7 10700K @3.8/5.1GHz \| 64GB DDR4 3200 \| 12GB RTX 4070 Super \| 32" LCD Monitor \| 1TB SSD & 2x2TB SSD \| Win 11 Pro - FSX/FSX-SE/P3D3/P3D4/P3D5/P3D6/MSFS2020 15.6" Gaming Laptop: i7 7700HQ \| 32GB DDR4 \| 6GB GTX 1060 \| 256GB SSD & 1TB HDD \| Win 10 Pro 64bit - FSX-SE/P3D4
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Captain A Full Member Offline Posts: 9 Joined: May 25^th, 2011	Re: Screen flickering in VC view Reply #12 - Jun 27^th, 2011 at 10:56pm	Print Post
	Sorry about that, your right the 767 does have this option too . However, if you look at the obove mentioned spec's of my system, I should have enough hardware for running the 707 cabin . All my other addons run like fluid .


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Markoz CS Team Offline Posts: 12368 Location: Victoria, Australia Joined: Apr 24^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Screen flickering in VC view Reply #13 - Jun 28^th, 2011 at 2:38am	Print Post
	However, if you look at the obove mentioned spec's of my system, I should have enough hardware for running the 707 cabin Sorry, I somehow missed your computer specs. You should definitely have enough "grunt" to run the 707 easily. It runs fine with the cabin on mine, but does require an aircraft reload if I get the problem. And that is the thing for me, it doesn't happen all the time, but I can get rid of it if it does. Mark

	Mark Fletcher PC: i7 10700K @3.8/5.1GHz \| 64GB DDR4 3200 \| 12GB RTX 4070 Super \| 32" LCD Monitor \| 1TB SSD & 2x2TB SSD \| Win 11 Pro - FSX/FSX-SE/P3D3/P3D4/P3D5/P3D6/MSFS2020 15.6" Gaming Laptop: i7 7700HQ \| 32GB DDR4 \| 6GB GTX 1060 \| 256GB SSD & 1TB HDD \| Win 10 Pro 64bit - FSX-SE/P3D4
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Captain A Full Member Offline Posts: 9 Joined: May 25^th, 2011	Re: Screen flickering in VC view Reply #14 - Jun 29^th, 2011 at 1:06am	Print Post
	Hi Mark, Thanks for the quick replys. I have tried the aircraft restarts and had no luck. The only way I can stop the cabin flicker is to turn off the cabin in ACE. It hurts becaues the 707 cabin is the best cabin I have ever seen (from the screen shots on the web). I like to relax in the cabin and have a drink and smoke before departure and the card table in the 707 looks like the perfect place just for that! Can't Captain Sim create cabin texture files that are not HD for us not so cabin lucky captains? I would pay $50. towards the research. And If that's impossible to do can they put a card table in the up comming 737 ?


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