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Flight Sim Commander Connection Problem
Dec 27th, 2010 at 8:25pm
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Hello All,
 I have both the B727 and B707 for FSX.  I also use FSC v8.6 as an external flight planner.  I can connect the B727 to FSC with no problems but I cannot connect the 707 Captain.  Any and all help appreciated

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Re: Flight Sim Commander Connection Problem
Reply #1 - Dec 28th, 2010 at 8:39am
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Hi
I think FSC command the AP by heading. Try to set your AP to HDG and see if it works.
  

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Reply #2 - Dec 28th, 2010 at 2:29pm
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Thanx but Sorry I had tried that before and no luck....set ap to hdg after t/o....fsc not engaged....after t/o engaged fsc using autohdg/goto and no response

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Reply #3 - Dec 29th, 2010 at 12:44am
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Save the flight to Flight Sim X format (Documents\Flight Simulator X files). Load the flight with the 707 AFTER the 707 flight has already been started, because sometimes the default dpl.PLN (needed for the DNS to work) remains as the flight plan if I load the plan before I have started the flight from Free Flight. Connect FSC 8.6 GPS to FSX (I hide the GPS window). The 707 will follow the flight plan, you will hear the sounds as the 707 passes the waypoints in the plan. I have found that the FSC X (8.6) and FSC 9 GPS does not work on all payware aircraft. As far as I can remember, it does work on all the default FSX aircraft that have an autopilot.

Hope this helps.

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Re: Flight Sim Commander Connection Problem
Reply #4 - Dec 29th, 2010 at 3:08am
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Hello Mark,
  Sorry im not very computer savvy.  Could you explain/show this

     Save the flight to Flight Sim X format (Documents\Flight Simulator X files).

How do I change that format

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Reply #5 - Dec 29th, 2010 at 3:57am
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I have just been through the same situation with FSC and CS707.

The heading  command from FSC doesn't seem to work with CS707, which is a pity. However if you save the FSC flight plan to your "Flight Simulator X Files" in Documents then you can load it into your CS707 flight before take off and the Autopilot will follow if in the NAV position.
  

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Re: Flight Sim Commander Connection Problem
Reply #6 - Dec 29th, 2010 at 11:25am
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Hi Ed.

When you save the flight plans, you get a choice of how to save them. Mine are normally set for FSC and FSX. So if there is a check mark (tick) in the boxes for FSC and FSX then it will be saved to both and the FSX flight plan will be in FSX format. Save it as something like DEP-ARR-FSC (e.g. YMML-YSSY-FSC) so you know it's the FSC plan you created.

Once you have your flight plan saved, start FSX, then, using Free Flight, start at the departure airport with the 707. Now open FS Flight Planner from the menu and load the plan you saved with FSC. Now you are ready to fly the flight plan. Go back to FSC and connect to FSX and fly the plan, only using the 707 autopilot (Autopilot Mode Selector knob set to NAV). FSC will follow the flight, but you will be using the 707 A/P, you will hear when you reach each waypoint as it will give you that "bingggg" sound. Grin

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Reply #7 - Dec 29th, 2010 at 3:00pm
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Mark and Patrick,
   Ok it works!!.....thanx for your help.....but what a pain in the drain....I also see that the goto in fsc does not work....but that is a minor problem

thanx again

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Reply #8 - Dec 29th, 2010 at 11:28pm
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it works and it does follow the fpn, but that is all it does.....afaik no shortcuts....if you want to shortcut u have to do that manually......unless im wrong and i have been wrong before....all input appreciated....thanx

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Reply #9 - Jan 3rd, 2011 at 4:15pm
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would it somehow be possible to disable the 707 autopilot and introduce the default autopilot from fsx?  does that only mean to disable the 707 autopilot cauges and insert the default?  ( ok looks bad but for a newbie might be able to fly the aircraft with FSC)
  
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Reply #10 - Jan 4th, 2011 at 4:09am
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It depends (I think) on whether the VC Autopilot is built into the model or it is in the panel.cfg. If you do want to use the default A/P, the you will need to remove the A/P 2D gauge and possibly the A/P gauge in the [VCockpit.xx]. If you don't remove all the entries, then the 707 and default Autopilot will/could conflict with each other, which could lead to the autopilot not working at all.

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Reply #11 - Jan 4th, 2011 at 9:40am
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i could use some help with that as i am not that experienced with cfg files
  
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Reply #12 - Jan 4th, 2011 at 1:49pm
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The best way for me to show you how to do it, would be for me to do it first and show the changes I made. Give me some time and I'll see how I do. It could take a day and a half (36 hours), I have a wedding to attend to tomorrow which is going to tie me up for most of the afternoon and night.

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Reply #13 - Jan 5th, 2011 at 10:54am
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well any help is appriciated you could send it directly to l_schuiling@hotmail.com if that is more convinient for you
  
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Reply #14 - Jan 5th, 2011 at 2:10pm
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Yesterday turned out to be far busier than I expected. I hope to be at it first thing in the morning. It's 1am here and I only got home an hour ago. I'll email you the files if and when I get it working. Wink

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Reply #15 - Jan 5th, 2011 at 6:10pm
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you are too kind.

i hope to learn a thing or two in the process though.  i email CS support with same question  but now answer.  and i cant inmagine that i am the only one who would like to have the FSC autoheading option with the 707
  
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Reply #16 - Jan 5th, 2011 at 10:44pm
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Mark,

It is very interesting . Do you have default A/P in your 707. If yes, how is the performance/functions? comparison to 707 AP

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Reply #17 - Jan 6th, 2011 at 2:31am
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Hi guys.

Here is a report on how it's going.

1. I removed the CS707 A/P 2D panel.
2. Replaced it with the MSFS Bendix-King Radio AP.
3. It works well for turning the A/P ON and OFF. So does the (default) Z key!
4. I can only use the following buttons on the Bendix-King AP. AP, ALT, UP and DN.
5. Altitude Hold works well. The default VS is + or - 100 fpm, but you can increase the value for climb and descent by editing the default VS in the aircraft.cfg. I can only increase/decrease the Altitude Hold in 1000 foot intervals.
6. To get the HDG button to turn on, I have to use the 3D Autopilot Mode Selector knob to HDG.
7. To get the NAV button to turn on, I have to use the 3D Autopilot Mode Selector knob to NAV and it follows the GPS flight plan ONLY.
8. To get the APR button to turn on, I have to use the 3D Autopilot Mode Selector knob to GS AUTO or GS MAN.
9. NAV button on the Bendix-King AP follows the VOR/LOC plan when you select VOR LOC on the 3D Autopiot Mode Select Switch.

No matter how much looking I do, I can't seem to kick the CS A/P out of the plane so that the . I can get the 707 2D AP out, but not the 3D VC AP out. The 2D AP was easy to deal with, but the 3D A/P is alluding me. The 2D AP uses the Captain_Sim.x707.P11 - P11_ap, but there is no mention of this gauge in any of the [VCockpit.xx]'s. I am presently looking through all the panel CAB files looking for it, but it could take a while as I have look at all the BMPs to (hopefully) find the 3D A/P. Sad

UPDATE Jan 6th, 2011 at 10:36am. I have been messing around with this for a quite a while now and I can't find the 3D A/P for the 707. It's possible that it is coded into the model. Sad
That said. The Autopilot works well as long as you follow what I said above. I did have an interest experience when I used GS MAN when the plane lost the Glide Slope and climb so steeply that it stalled and crashed. I don't know if it will do this all the time though. Approach works fine on GS AUTO. So it's good to go.


@Sanal. It performs quite well. I think that it IS a bit easier. My preference is to use the 707 A/P and not the MSFS default Bendix-King. I'm going to have a look at some of the other Autopilots from the default B747, B737 and A321, to see if they are better. I think I will still run into the same problems as I have already mentioned, but I'll let you know.

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Reply #18 - Jan 6th, 2011 at 2:18pm
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Captain_Sim.x707.P11 - P11_ap

that is how far i came, but i had no luck with the rest and still no answer from captain sim support to whom i mailed same question.

perhaps some one else could rephrase it and resend it?

best regards

leon.
p.s. keep me updated as i really would like the plane to fly with FSC as does a whole lot others i am sure
  
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Reply #19 - Jan 7th, 2011 at 12:33am
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With everything I have done so far. I don't think that you will be able to use FSC as an Autopilot for the 707. The important Heading, VOR (NAV) and Approach modes are control via the 3D VC A/P. Nothing I have tried changes that. You can use either the Bendix-King Radio A/P, B737-800 or Airbus A321 A/P. The B747-400 only uses the numerals for the A/P on the VC panel texture and so can't be used in an easy manner.

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Reply #20 - Sep 4th, 2011 at 12:55am
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Thank you, Markoz.....
  
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