paul and mark, i appriciate your help greatly
can i just check i installed the civa ins correctly? this is my panel config
THIS BELOW =no power, on the 2D panel
[Window00] file=bg.bmp background_color=0,0,0 size_mm=1024,768 window_size_ratio=1.00 position=7 visible=1 ident=MAIN_PANEL render_3d_window=0 window_size= 1.000, 1.000 window_pos= 0.000, 0.000 gauge00=Captain_Sim.x707.sys!main, 0,0, 2,2 gauge01=Captain_Sim.x707.sound!main, 0,0,1,1,Captain_Sim\707\sound.ini gauge02=Captain_Sim.x707.tools!icons, 0,532,24,120 gauge03=Captain_Sim.x707.gpws!main, 0,0,1,1 ;CIVA gauge04=../civa/INS!Config, 0, 0, 0, 0, CS707 gauge05=../civa/INS!CduPanelIconB, 0, 652, 24, 24, 11041 gauge06=../civa/INS!AdeuPanelIconB, 0, 676, 24, 24, 11042
[Window01] size_mm=200,256 window_pos=0.000,0.070 position=0 background_color=0,0,0 visible=0 ident=11001 gauge00=Captain_Sim.x707.tools!ac100,0,0,200,256
[Window02] size_mm=538,780 window_size=0.25 window_pos= 0.750, 0.150 ;position=2 background_color=0,0,0 visible=0 ident=11002 zorder=1 gauge00=Captain_Sim.x707.P04!P04_radar, 0, 0,538,522 gauge01=Captain_Sim.x707.P03!P03_radar, 0,523,538,250 gauge02=Captain_Sim.x707.WXR!wr_display, 93,70,358,358
[Window03] size_mm=400,283 position=8 background_color=0,0,0 visible=0 ident=11003 nomenu=0 gauge00=Captain_Sim.x707.P01!P01_map,0,0,400,283
[Window04] size_mm=405,100 window_pos= 0.300, 0.020 ;position=2 background_color=0,0,0 visible=0 ident=11004 nomenu=0 gauge00=Captain_Sim.x707.P11!P11_ap,0,0,384,100 gauge01=../civa/INS!CduPanelIconB, 385, 0, 20, 20, 11041 gauge03=../civa/INS!AdeuPanelIconB, 385, 20, 20, 20, 11042
[Window05] size_mm=349,218 window_size=0.25 window_pos= 0.030, 0.690 background_color=0,0,0 visible=0 ident=11005 render_3d_window=0 gauge00=Captain_Sim.x707.P15!P15_voice, 0,0, 349,218
;CIVA [Window06] size_mm=420,223 background_color=0,0,0 window_pos=0.300, 0.160 position=0 visible=0 ident=11041 no_luminous=1 gauge00=../civa/ins!Cdu1, 0, 0, 200, 158 gauge01=../civa/ins!Cdu2, 200, 0, 200, 158 gauge02=../civa/INS!UpdateFlags, 150, 160, 115, 63 gauge03=../civa/INS!CduPanelIconB, 400, 0, 20, 20, 11041 gauge04=../civa/INS!NavModeDual, 270, 160, 50, 45 gauge05=../civa/INS!AdeuPanelIconB, 400, 138, 20, 20, 11042
[Window07] size_mm=420,158 background_color=0,0,0 window_pos=0.300, 0.450 position=8 visible=0 ident=11042 no_luminous=1 gauge00=../civa/INS!Msu1, 0, 0, 200, 57 gauge01=../civa/INS!Msu2, 200, 0, 200, 57 gauge02=../civa/INS!Adeu1, 0, 60, 250, 101 gauge03=../civa/INS!AdeuPanelIconB, 400, 0, 20, 20, 11042
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