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FMC TIPS,TRICKS,PROCEDURES-the only thread please
Dec 14th, 2009 at 5:09pm
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Hello I'm pretty new to airliners and the fmc but I have been following instructions as to how to set my initial position and can't seem to get it to work. I align the IRS. Then go into the fmc. Click to get last known position to appear on the bottom of the fmc screen. Then when I put all three knobs on the IRS to nav the align light starts blinking above all three knobs and the fmc says something like set IRS position. At this point I can't seen to make anything work. I watched a tutorial video and it never showed the align lights blinking. Can anyone perhaps shed some light on this please?  Thank you in advance.
  
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Re: Fmc not cooperating with IRS
Reply #1 - Dec 14th, 2009 at 5:43pm
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I align the IRS. Then go into the fmc.

Try going to fmc before you touch the IRS. Do the last postion routine in the FMC in the pos init page and then try to align the IRS.
  
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Re: Fmc not cooperating with IRS
Reply #2 - Dec 14th, 2009 at 6:07pm
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After turning the battery on, switch all three IRS units to "NAV", then initialize the FMC.
  

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Re: Fmc not cooperating with IRS
Reply #3 - Dec 14th, 2009 at 10:06pm
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doing last position in the fmc before touching the IRS did the trick for me, thanks for the help!
  
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Re: Fmc not cooperating with IRS
Reply #4 - Dec 15th, 2009 at 1:17am
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As I posted in the other thread...

I had trouble getting the FMC to "activate" a route if it was just a direct line between the origin & destination (two waypoints total).

Figured I'd add it here in case people find via search...
  
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FCM PERF INT FUEL ZFW PROBLEM
Reply #5 - Dec 17th, 2009 at 2:57am
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i have trouble in which every time i put a value in the ZFW, i get invalid entry. Please help me
  
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Re: FCM PERF INT FUEL ZFW PROBLEM
Reply #6 - Dec 17th, 2009 at 3:03am
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ZFW range is approx 181.6 to 259.9.

That should work for you.
  

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Re: FCM PERF INT FUEL ZFW PROBLEM
Reply #7 - Dec 17th, 2009 at 3:07am
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i just try a number in that range right now, it still didn't work
  
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Re: FCM PERF INT FUEL ZFW PROBLEM
Reply #8 - Dec 17th, 2009 at 4:48am
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Which 767 Model and version? The reason I ask is because I had that problem with the E767AWACS v1.3 but since v1.4 I don't have that happening any more.

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Reply #9 - Dec 17th, 2009 at 7:48am
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767-300 Base Pack with the 1.4 update
  
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Route Discontinuity Problems
Reply #10 - Dec 25th, 2009 at 4:23pm
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so im really excited about getting in the air, but when i  was programming the sids and stars into the fmc, i get 2 discons each one seperating the sid/star, and i can't figure out how to eliminate them. deleteing them, or simply typeing in the next waypoint as in other planes doesn't work, the discon is just moved further down the route.
is this a bug, or am i not doing something right? Undecided

thanks for the help, can't wait to fly Cheesy

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Re: Route Discontinuity Problems
Reply #11 - Dec 26th, 2009 at 5:19pm
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just click on the line select key (LSK) under the discontinuity, to put the next waypoint in the scratch pad. then click on the LSK next to the discon, and click activate. The discon should now be gone.
Works fine here...
  
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FMS Database missing airfields
Reply #12 - Dec 25th, 2009 at 9:08pm
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How extensive is the FMS airfields database? I've just tried to load a FP from FSX for ORBS (Baghdad International) to OERK (King Khaled International). FSX has ORBS in its database but the 767 FMS tells me its not in the database and won't accept the departure airfield.

Minor airfields missing I can understand but an international? is this an oversight?

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Re: FMS Database missing airfields
Reply #13 - Dec 26th, 2009 at 10:40am
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Hello Ian,

you can update your database with a payware AIRIC cyle from
Navigraph.

Here is the link: http://www.navigraph.com/www/default.asp


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Re: FMS Database missing airfields
Reply #14 - Dec 27th, 2009 at 3:33am
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Hi Ian.

In my FSX Baghdad International comes up with the ICAO of ORBI and not ORBS. ORBS isn't a listed airport in my FSX either.



ORBS is not in my 767 FMS database but ORBI is in the database.
Perhaps your error is in using an incorrect ICAO airport code.

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Insufficient Fuel on FMC after upgrade
Reply #15 - Dec 27th, 2009 at 9:03pm
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Hi Folks! Just checking to see if anyone has experienced this before I submit a report via the proper channels.

Anyway: I upgraded from 1.2 directly to 1.4. Since this upgrade I've noticed that when I now program a route of moderate length (Boston to Heathrow KBOS-EGLL for example) when I enter the CRZ ALT as FL300 I get an Insufficient Fuel alert on the FMC. I can select a lower altitude and the FMC seems happy with that.

Note that this did not happen prior to the 1.2-to-1.4 upgrade, so I don't think this is related to the existing KB article that states the fix was in 1.3, though this may have been an unexpected result of that fix.

If I insist on flying FL300 depsite the FMC's fuel warning, I get to Heathrow just fine, and with the expected fuel burn and quantity remaining (i.e Plenty of fuel left). "Seems like" (as I'm not a programmer" that the FMC is using some incorrect variable to calculate fuel needed, but the rest of the sim is using the usual one.

I can give much more detailed info here, or if nobody's seen this I'll send it to CS through the normal channels. Thanks!
  
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Any sort of tutorial for approaches with the FMC?
Reply #16 - Dec 24th, 2009 at 12:24am
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Hello, i can import a flightplan into the fmc but it goes downhill when i want to do an approach, the manual is pretty vague when it comes to inputting STARS.  Basically i select a star, a transition, and an approach, and when then when i get to about 30 miles of the STAR, the plane still hasnt desecended and does a hard right turn for absolutely no reason.  Any help, this is the second porked approach and im getting tired of wasting a 3 hour flight with this outcome.  Thanks for your time.
  
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Re: Any sort of tutorial for approaches with the FMC?
Reply #17 - Dec 28th, 2009 at 1:02am
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http://www.captainsim.org/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1220997876 is good tutorial for inputting STARs. The problem is that by just using FS we don't get sufficient information on charts for arrival/departure. I use Navigraph. They have software that you can install on your pc for free and as a tryout they give you six free points worth three airports to try out. If you like it, you can then buy other airports. Its very reasonably priced and worth it when you want to do accurate SIDs/STARs.
You can also use FSx canned ATC to help you out if you don't want to spend any more money on anything. Basically, just create a FS flight plan using IFR VOR to VOR or hight altitude airways option in FSX and then import that into your FMC. Take off using ATC assigned runway and as soon as you engage AP and LNAV/VNAV, your plane should follow the route. When you are about 70 to 80 miles from destination, ATC will assign you landing runway. Using world map, find out the ILS frequency of the assigned runway and tune you aircraft to that. When you are given final approach parameters and heading, follow those and engage localizer and approach and you will capture glideslope for perfect landing.
  
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FMC calculates descent, then reverses it??
Reply #18 - Jan 6th, 2010 at 11:20pm
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I have discovered a problem today, I created a flightplan within FSX and imported it into the FMC, I then selected RNAV runway 22r and hit activate, then i went into legs to correct a discontinuity, after filling in the gap, all of the altitudes change to create a descent profile, but as soon as i hit activate all those altitudes go back to my cruise alt.  For example one leg will be fl310 then the next will be 3000 feet.  This doesnt always happen, is there something i am doing wrong?
  
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Reply #19 - Jan 8th, 2010 at 5:59pm
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Hi all,

I have tried several airports now but you can test this with the KMSO RNAV-y approach to Missoula. The FMC and Nav display do not populate waypoint data when you select an RNAV approach from the dep/arrival page.

Anybody else had any luck?
  
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Question About Navdata and Other Info.....
Reply #20 - Jan 10th, 2010 at 9:21pm
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I'm really beginning to like and enjoy this bird.  The graphics are just so good and so smooth....

Is there a way adding VHHX Kai Tak to the navdata?  I've done it with other addon aircraft, but the format is different for the CS addons.

For any 'doubters' that still say the CS VNAV & LNAV is no good, I've actually managed to program the FMC to fly this bird within about 1/3 mile of the touchdown zone at Toncontin (MHTG)!  Believe me, that is no mean feat either Shocked
  

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FMC Help?
Reply #21 - Jan 8th, 2010 at 11:56pm
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This actually the first complex aircraft ive used I did get the FMC right once but later on it just climbs to cruise and then never programs a decent, I use routefindert for the routes Wink Anybody know what im doing wrong? Undecided
  

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Reply #22 - Jan 9th, 2010 at 2:00am
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I have found that I only get a "descent" plan unless if I enter the RWY I'm going to land on and the STAR and the TRANS. This gives me a TD, and also the altitude constraints required at each of the waypoints after the TD. If you don't know the runway you are going to land on. Just choose any. NOTE: I have found that if I remove or change any of the waypoints in the STAR or TRANS I also lose the altitude constraints on ALL of them.

As a rule I fly VFR flights because the ATC is either pretty dumb or crazy and doesn't allow for STARs (I can sometimes get away with using SIDs) . I may fly an IFR plan one day though.  Wink

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Re: FMC Help?
Reply #23 - Jan 9th, 2010 at 2:01am
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You need to tell the FMC when to decend in the VNAV 1/3 Decend now
And lower the MCP altitude
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Reply #24 - Jan 10th, 2010 at 10:03pm
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if you select a runway and a transition you shouldnt need to tell the fmc when to descend, it should alter legs to accomodate.  My fmc used to do this and now when i hit activate it just puts all my leg altitudes back to my cruise alt
  
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Reply #25 - Jan 14th, 2010 at 6:16am
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Once you get good at FMC etc try VATSIM . . . talk to real ATC people far more enjoyable
  
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FMC - TIPS, TRICKS, PROCEDURES
Reply #26 - Feb 26th, 2010 at 6:04pm
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i want to fly over atlantic for a long distance flight from brussels to new york.

therfore following route i found:
DENUT UL610 LAM UL179 CPT UL9 BURAK UM140 DOGAL 54N020W 54N030W 54N040W 53N050W HECKK DCT YAY N184B TOPPS J581 ENE

but the problem is...how do i set the "54N030W 54N040W 53N050W" transatlantic routes into the FMC ???
i can set the intersections, but the other it dont find....

any help??

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Re: FMC programming???
Reply #27 - Feb 27th, 2010 at 1:49am
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Vienna1210 wrote on Feb 26th, 2010 at 6:04pm:
but the problem is...how do i set the "54N030W 54N040W 53N050W" transatlantic routes into the FMC ???

I believe you enter them like this:

N54W030  N54W040  N53W050

Read page 17 of the cs767_manual5.pdf  "PART V – Flight Management System" on how you enter those kinds of Waypoints.

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Need some tips please (FMC/cruize)
Reply #28 - Apr 12th, 2010 at 6:27pm
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Hi guys,

I went throught all the documentation that came with the model but there is something I cant seem to figure out. I hope someone can help me with this as it's getting frustrating.

I must be doing something wrong. Here is what happens:

my setup:
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FSX
Radar Contact
FDC live cockpit
Super Flight Planner

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Duocore 3.4 Ghz
Radeon 8xxx graphics...sorry I dont remember the model
3 gigs of RAM
Saitek X52 flight system

- I file the propper flight plan and import it in the FMC (check for discontinuities etc)

- When everything is good, i get the propper clearances..so far, all is good.

- when in the climb phase, it seems that the FMC is not finishing the climb correctly and stops climbing before the correct altitude is reached. If I try to correct the situation by taking VNAV off and "force" the climb using the autopilot, it will try to climb the rest of the way but the airspeed is greatly affected and the plane stalls and goes into a spin (crashes).

Am i doing something wrong here? Why isnt the plane "listening" to what the FMC is telling it to do?

Thanks for any help. I would love to be able to take the plane from point A to B smoothly at some point. After 2 weeks I still have not landed it. I'm going completely nuts over this.  Cry
  

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Reply #29 - Apr 13th, 2010 at 2:24pm
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Ok...I think I found out what I was doing wrong. I am pretty sure this had something to do with the weight of the AC. I lowered the fuel Quantity and I didnt get the problem. Will give it a shot again tonight at a higher altitude and post the results.

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767 flight computer programing ?????
Reply #30 - Aug 21st, 2010 at 11:02am
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Hello i am new to captain sim i know how to go to cold and dark and start it up and everything but my question is how does one program the flight computer? put in the flight plans ? set up aproaches? have autopilot fly the flight plan? and how does one calculate the v-speeds
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Re: 767 flight computer programing ?????
Reply #31 - Aug 21st, 2010 at 11:15am
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Hi.

I recommend you go to the 757 forum and check out the Bob Markey's Captain Sim 757 Tutorial Videos and aussie's 757-200 FMC Tutorial. The 767 and 757 Cockpits are very similar and the FMC's are the same and work the same.

Hope this helps.

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Re: 767 flight computer programing ?????
Reply #32 - Aug 21st, 2010 at 11:26am
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Japsican wrote on Aug 21st, 2010 at 11:02am:
Hello i am new to captain sim i know how to go to cold and dark and start it up and everything but my question is how does one program the flight computer? put in the flight plans ? set up aproaches? have autopilot fly the flight plan? and how does one calculate the v-speeds
any help would be greatly apreciated! thanks


Go here: http://www.captainsim.org/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1279068669/0 which will get you started up to initialization.  It will explain how to to set the position, enter flight plan, etc.

For initialization (the following step) you need to know your zero fuel weight, that is the weight of your passengers, cargo and empty airplane.  You plug that into the ZFW boxes and it will automagically calculate the other values.  Put 5 (for simplicity) as your reserve and 70 for your cost index (or whatever CI you prefer).  Set flaps at 5.  Click next to your Vspeeds (calculated for you) on the right on the takeoff page and they will increase in size, showing they are locked in.
  

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Reply #33 - Aug 21st, 2010 at 12:49pm
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Sorry for not pointing yours out Tim, but I couldn't find it. It was because I was looking for it in this forum, and not the 757 forum, for it. Sad

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Re: 767 flight computer programing ?????
Reply #34 - Aug 21st, 2010 at 2:01pm
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Markoz wrote on Aug 21st, 2010 at 12:49pm:
Sorry for not pointing yours out Tim, but I couldn't find it. It was because I was looking for it in this forum, and not the 757 forum, for it. Sad

Mark


Well, mine has yet to be completed.  I WILL finish it, then port it over the 767.  I work on it as the mood strikes.
  

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Reply #35 - Aug 21st, 2010 at 6:27pm
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Thanks you guys I will give that a shot and let you guys know how that goes I Really apreciate the help!
  

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IN THE FMC When Puting in the waypoints and I delete one i get a

   THEN
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--ROUTE DISCONTINUITY -
I try to delete it but i cant i put in a VOR or waypoint and nothing?
why does it do this? Im clueless  Undecided
  

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Reply #37 - Aug 22nd, 2010 at 2:58am
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When you see that. Copy the next waypoint and Paste it into the line with the empty boxes. Do that with all you --ROUTE DISCONTINUITY - entries. See FLIGHT MANUAL Part V – Flight Management System p57 for details.

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i saw that advice you said to another person i did that but nothing happend and thanks for the section i was washing dishes and thought for a minute and decided to look at the manual thanks for the advice!
  

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still is not going away even if I put a intersection or a VOR I wonder why?? this is what it says

DISCONTINUITY (Then [][][][][])
"Discontinuity is corrected when applicable waypoint is entered in boxes"

ROUTE DISCONTINUITY
Line title separates route segments when there is a discontinuity

my flight plan that im trying to do is this

KPHX - KLAX
BXK2
BXK
J4
TNP
SEAVU2
should I just enter all the depature waypoints manually and just do a arrival? I cant seam to do a departure and arival loaded without the discontinuity. 
  

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Hi.

Can I have a bit more flight info please?

KPHX BXK2 BXK J4 TNP SEAVU2 (TRANS?) (RWY?) KLAX

Here is mine.

KPHX RWY26 BXK2 BXK J4 TNP SEAVU2 SEAVU ILS24L KLAX

I didn't get any --ROUTE DISCONTINUITY -in my flight plan at all.

My guess is that you are having trouble because you are not enter a TRANS. Select arrival RWY, STAR then TRANS ( from the list beneath the RWY). In my case it was ILS24L then SEAVU2 then SEAVU.

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ill try that tomorrow when i get up i went star-trans-runway ex bxk2-bxk trans -runway 25L i figured out how to eliminate the then with 5 boxes had to read carefully but ill try the plan tomorrow.
  

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what transition did you do for the bxk2 departure i did (RNWY 26 BXK2 with pke trans ) then i did bxk J4 TNP then ILS24L SEAVU2 SEAVU TRANS is this correct ?
  

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I didn't use a SID or TRANS for departure. I flew direct to BXK. I did this because I haven't reinstalled FS Commander yet, so I was unsure of which SID would be the best to use.

I'll try it again, on this time I'll use RNWY 26 BXK2 with PKE TRANS and let you know how I go.

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Again thanks Mark for the help and advice !

One more thing when at cruise alt and I see a waypoint in the FMS that I need to descend down to ex 18,000ft to 14,000 and its in LNAV and VNAV mode with the autopilot on.

* Do I have to manually set the alt and vsi to 14,000 /2500 fpm in the autopilot???
* Is there a way that the plane can do this alwready by itself?
* By reading the manual for the it says the I have to set it manually is this the way you do it???
*how do i get my ifr clearence it just says grond or atis i tune in the clearence frequency but i cant get my clearence unless im in the air?
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Japsican wrote on Aug 23rd, 2010 at 1:04am:
Again thanks Mark for the help and advice !

One more thing when at cruise alt and I see a waypoint in the FMS that I need to descend down to ex 18,000ft to 14,000 and its in LNAV and VNAV mode with the autopilot on.

* Do I have to manually set the alt and vsi to 14,000 /2500 fpm in the autopilot???
* Is there a way that the plane can do this alwready by itself?
* By reading the manual for the it says the I have to set it manually is this the way you do it???
*how do i get my ifr clearence it just says grond or atis i tune in the clearence frequency but i cant get my clearence unless im in the air?
Bruce


If it's a part of the STAR/TRANS altitudes, then the A/P should be close to the altitude or even holding it by the time it gets there. If it's in the middle of the route, then I think you are flying above that maximum altitude for that part of the route (I've never seen in the middle of a route). So if it's in the middle of the TRANS, you must set your altitude on the to that altitude or lower before (about 10-20nm) you reach the T/D. I usually set my altitude to about 4000' and let the A/P hold the TRANS altitudes when it gets there.

To be honest, I almost never fly IFR, because the FSX ATC doesn't quite do the job right in my opinion. I fly VFR 99% of the time with the big jets.

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But is there a way to get you IFR Clearence when on the ground ?
When Airborne @ Gear up I put LNAV Engage the center autopilot then VNAV and push the climb button and retract my flaps I go to my cruise alt then when I need to Descend like it says on the FMS on LEGS it still stays on my Cruise alt and doesnt descend. Why does it not descend like the FMS says? so I decide to do the altitude manually and I have to stay ahead so I can be at the proper altitude.

Also this is weird I had the ILS24L in the FMS and was at the G/S Intercept area but the G/S never showed up in the Atitude Ind. and it was on the correct frequency 111.70 with a 249 Course) the g/s that shows up on the Atitude Ind. came on when I was at the other end of the runway why when it was properly set up? did I do something wrong?
I am learning as like most people but I bought this when It came out almost forgot all about it and decided to learn it thanks for reading this long post -Bruce-
  

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But is there a way to get you IFR Clearence when on the ground ?
When Airborne @ Gear up I put LNAV Engage the center autopilot then VNAV and push the climb button and retract my flaps I go to my cruise alt then when I need to Descend like it says on the FMS on LEGS it still stays on my Cruise alt and doesnt descend. Why does it not descend like the FMS says? so I decide to do the altitude manually and I have to stay ahead so I can be at the proper altitude.
Yes there is. You need to create the plan using FS Flight Planner, and your first problem will occur here because the Nav Data is outdated and there are no SIDs and STARs. Then load it into the FMC AND the flight, then you ready to do an IFR flight. To find out more onloading the MSFS flight plan into the FMC read page 37 of the FLIGHT MANUAL Part V – Flight Management System.

About the descent. Are you setting a lower altitude on the MCP before T/D? Is there a T/D showing on you flight plan?

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Also this is weird I had the ILS24L in the FMS and was at the G/S Intercept area but the G/S never showed up in the Atitude Ind. and it was on the correct frequency 111.70 with a 249 Course) the g/s that shows up on the Atitude Ind. came on when I was at the other end of the runway why when it was properly set up? did I do something wrong?
I am learning as like most people but I bought this when It came out almost forgot all about it and decided to learn it thanks for reading this long post -Bruce-
It should switch to the correct frequency and heading by about 7-10nm, sometimes even further out, from the ILS runway. You can go into the NAV RAD section of the FMC (FLIGHT MANUAL Part V – Flight Management System p45) and copy and paste the ILS - MLS and this will force them into your ILS Control Panel.

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About the descent. Are you setting a lower altitude on the MCP before T/D?

I only start descending when the next waypoint is at a lower altitude.

Is there a T/D showing on you flight plan?

Yes, it shows a T/D but when I pass it, it does not start descening
  

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About the descent. Are you setting a lower altitude on the MCP before T/D?

Yes, otherwise you'll get RESET MCP ALT in the CDU scratchpad.

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Yes, it shows a T/D but when I pass it, it does not start descening

1) Make sure VNAV is activated.
2) Set MCP altitude to G/S capture alt or to a longer constraint (e.g. when 7000ft is displayed right to a waypoint on LEGS page more than one line in a row or whether if it is in larger, bold-like font). If unsure, just set it to G/S intercept alt.
  
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I seam to fix my problen with the g/s iono why but my ILS for 06R/ILS24L dont work but the ILS06L/ILS24R work so I used them instead and I also figured out what my problem for the alt  descending I was getting a reset MCP ALT on the scene so I just set it to the FMS Alt and had it set to LNAV and VNAV and I was good thanks everyone for the help now lets have some fun! Grin
  

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Hi guys... On 3 Sephtember I have the New York Real Traffic Event on IVAO, And I need to fly with 767. I know hot to use it.. but I never try a long with this aircraft.

How can I insert Step Climb in CDU?

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It should say on the Init Page Step Size, then under it says ICAO, replace it with 2000. Use a manual to help. Lets say on a flight from Atlanta to Heathrow your climbing to FL310, after a while, once you burn some fuel off, climb 2000 feet once on the VNAV page, go to the Optimum Cruising altitude. Just go in 2000 feet increments. Hope this helps.  Smiley
  

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AABoeing wrote on Aug 29th, 2010 at 4:07pm:
It should say on the Init Page Step Size, then under it says ICAO, replace it with 2000. Use a manual to help. Lets say on a flight from Atlanta to Heathrow your climbing to FL310, after a while, once you burn some fuel off, climb 2000 feet once on the VNAV page, go to the Optimum Cruising altitude. Just go in 2000 feet increments. Hope this helps.  Smiley




I fly at initial level of 320, but when I go to the LEGS page, I can see only 320, not the others level like 340 or 360...
and I have insert 2000 in step size...

I put for final level 320 and not else...

I do somthing wrong?

Or i can see steps in legs only when in flight? Tongue
  

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Not 100% what your talking about, but you will manually have to change your cruising altitude in the FMC and MCP, then it should climb at a very shallow angle. It's pretty complicated at first, but you'll get used to it. Itshouldn't just say that altitude. I'm not 100% sure if this is the way real pilots do it, but it should work similar to that.
  

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Hi Alberto.

If you want to increase your altitude (step climb) during a flight, the first thing you need to do is set the  STEP SIZE (ICAO is the default setting which is 4000 feet) on the PERF INIT page of the FMC. You can change it to 2000 feet if you like.

Having done that, during your flight, you need toi keep an eye on the PROG page and it shows the distance to the next STEP CLIMB (only after reaching you initial Cruise altitude). About 20nm before that climb, change the altitude on the MCP to that next height from 32000 to 34000/36000, (the S/C ALT is determined by your STEP CLIMB setting) according to your flight then enter that into the FMC using Left LSK1 on the VNAV Page 2/3 (CRUISE PAGE). Return to PROG and press EXEC when the it informs you to do the step climb NOW. It's quite easy really.

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Markoz wrote on Aug 29th, 2010 at 11:08pm:
Hi Alberto.

If you want to increase your altitude (step climb) during a flight, the first thing you need to do is set the  STEP SIZE (ICAO is the default setting which is 4000 feet) on the PERF INIT page of the FMC. You can change it to 2000 feet if you like.

Having done that, during your flight, you need toi keep an eye on the PROG page and it shows the distance to the next STEP CLIMB (only after reaching you initial Cruise altitude). About 20nm before that climb, change the altitude on the MCP to that next height from 32000 to 34000/36000, (the S/C ALT is determined by your STEP CLIMB setting) according to your flight then enter that into the FMC using Left LSK1 on the VNAV Page 2/3 (CRUISE PAGE). Return to PROG and press EXEC when the it informs you to do the step climb NOW. It's quite easy really.

Hope this helps.

Mark

Tanks! now it work.. But a problem:

I have to insert the step climb in the Figt Plan, on MD-11 (the aircraft I use more) when I insert the step, The CDU schow me the poi where I have the steps in the F-PLAN page (the equivalent of LAGS page). Is this possible with 767?
  

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Hi Alberto.

I assume that that's because the McDonald Douglas FMC could do it automatically in real life (and it's really handy). But the "others" 747-400X doesn't do it (a Boeing). Same goes for Captain Sim 757 and 767. Neither does that "other ones" 767! In fact I only ever saw that on the MD11. So perhaps Boeing doesn't have that capability in their FMC.

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Mark, haven't you seen s/c on your display?  Isn't that the point for a step climb?
  

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Hi Tim.

Yes I have seen the S/C on the display. I just don't zoom in on it, so I keep an eye on the PROG page of the FMC and when it says NOW  for the S/C, I hit the EXEC button so it starts the climb.

Now with the MD11. Lets say I'm doing a flight from YSSY to KLAX. At first the plane is heavy so the optimum flight level is FL310, but as I lose weight I can climb higher so that by the time I'm 400 miles from KLAX my optimum flight level is FL390. I set my cruise altitude to the maximum altitude for the flight, in this case FL390. In the FMC I have told it my flight levels are 310/330/350/370/390 the MD11 climbs to 310 and once it's weight matches the weight for optimum for FL330 it will AUTOMATICALLY start the step climb. I can go to bed on a long distance flight and when I wake up, the MD11 is flying at its optimum altitude for its current weight.  But if I went to bed on a long flight in the 757s, 767s, 747s which have an FMC and you have to TELL the plane when to do the step climb, I would come back to a plane flying at say FL330 when its optimum altitude is FL390. Because I never entered the new altitudes for the Step Climbs. If I had dialed in 39000 on MCP, then it would immediately climb to that altitude, even if the optimum altitude was 31000 (and it would really struggle to reach that altitude).

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I get that message occasionally. I mostly get it if I'm doing a very short hop where I don't want to go above 10,000 feet even though there is time and distance to allow for a climb to a higher altitude before the descent phase of the flight. If that is the case, I simply ignore it. The other times I get it is if I have set the cruise altitude in the FMC and MCP above the MAX altitude. e.g. FMC and MCP altitude set to FL350 whilst the MAX altitude is FL343 (FL350 is above the MAX altitude of FL343 for the weight of the plane).

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You got it spot on i was going KBOS to KMCO at FL350, bumped it down to FL 335 and shes good to go. Thanks Mark!
  
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I've been having some problems recently with the FMS.  It does not have any waypoints in the memory or what ever stores them. I get the error message in the scratch pad telling me the waypoint is not in the data base, to include all airports.  Basically it does not recognize any waypoint, fix or airport i try to insert from the scratch pad........any ideas? thanks in advance!
  
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Reply #64 - Apr 14th, 2011 at 3:24am
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I don't know if it's my error or an installation error, but I cannot seem to type any data into the FMC. I'm supposed to type it into the scratchpad, then enter it, but the scratchpad reads "Enter IRS Position". I can't seem to make that go away, and I've aligned IRS, so what do I do?

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Re: Input Data to FMC
Reply #65 - Apr 14th, 2011 at 4:34am
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boeing247 wrote on Apr 14th, 2011 at 3:24am:
I don't know if it's my error or an installation error, but I cannot seem to type any data into the FMC. I'm supposed to type it into the scratchpad, then enter it, but the scratchpad reads "Enter IRS Position". I can't seem to make that go away, and I've aligned IRS, so what do I do?

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Re: Input Data to FMC
Reply #66 - Apr 14th, 2011 at 4:45am
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In all fairness, I did find in the manual that you have to input the IRS position even if you have aligned IRS. However, I was hoping for a response containing something other than a profane acronym.
  

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Re: Input Data to FMC
Reply #67 - Apr 14th, 2011 at 6:31am
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Have a look at the diagram here: '767 Captain’ FLIGHT MANUAL Part V – Flight Management System (cs767_manual5.pdf), page 31.

I select Right LSK 4 (NUMBER 6 in the diagram) and enter that in Left LSK 5 (NUMBER 7 in the diagram).
After entering the Airport, e.g. YMML, it will show S32o40.0 E144o50.0 where as the Left LSK 4 will display S32o40.0 E144o50.7, which more closely matches the 767's actual position S32o40.07 E144o50.74, according to the display at the top of my screen when I press SHIFT+Z (see my attached image).

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Reply #68 - Apr 14th, 2011 at 2:58pm
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Mark,

  You forgot the most important 1st step.   Press the CLR button on the FMS to clear the ENTER IRS POSITION message.
  
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Re: Input Data to FMC
Reply #69 - Apr 14th, 2011 at 4:25pm
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DrJ1 wrote on Apr 14th, 2011 at 2:58pm:
Mark,

 You forgot the most important 1st step.   Press the CLR button on the FMS to clear the ENTER IRS POSITION message.

Oops. Sorry mate. My bad. Sad

I obviously missed that the main problem he had, was that the ENTER IRS POSITION message was blocking you from entering anything else. It is just second nature for me to press CLR to get rid of the message, that I forgt that you need to do it.

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Re: Input Data to FMC
Reply #70 - Apr 15th, 2011 at 2:11am
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Okay, thanks (for your more polite and detailed responses)!  Wink
  

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Re: Input Data to FMC
Reply #71 - Apr 15th, 2011 at 7:33am
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Markoz wrote on Apr 14th, 2011 at 6:31am:
according to the display at the top of my screen when I press SHIFT+Z (see my attached image).

Hope this helps.

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Re: Input Data to FMC
Reply #72 - Apr 15th, 2011 at 8:34am
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Cappy wrote on Apr 15th, 2011 at 7:33am:
Markoz wrote on Apr 14th, 2011 at 6:31am:
according to the display at the top of my screen when I press SHIFT+Z (see my attached image).

Hope this helps.

Mark

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It was and still is! I just don't need to press SHIFT+Z anymore to know that the Left LSK4 will display the correct location. Grin
  

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Reply #73 - May 8th, 2011 at 1:24am
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Hey all, I know that 4800N 09000W would be entered as 4890N, but how would I enter a track such as 4830N 11000W?  Any ideas?  Thanks in advance
  
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Re: FMS Route Entries
Reply #74 - May 8th, 2011 at 2:12am
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Try entering N4830.0W11000.0 then the waypoint will show as something like N48W110.
If you just enter N48W110, then the coordinate might be viewed as N4800.0W11000.0 which is close, but not exact.

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Re: FMS Route Entries
Reply #75 - May 8th, 2011 at 2:49am
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I've googled everywhere trying to find that.  Thanks a million.
  
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