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Re: Bon Jovi
Reply #45 - Aug 7th, 2007 at 8:46pm
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How long have you been repainting?
  

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Re: Bon Jovi
Reply #46 - Aug 7th, 2007 at 9:10pm
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Okay, I'll try to put it simple.

First off you need to have the textures. Its included in the repaint kit. The repaint kit is located in your program files and/or here:

C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Flight Simulator 9\Aircraft\Legendary_707\Repaint Kit

If you don't have it, click here:
http://www.captainsim.com/support/dl/rk707.html


Before you do anything, and I mean ANYTHING, always use a copy of the textures. NEVER operate on the original one.


Next, you need a program with PSD ability. You have Adobe Photoshop CS2 right? It should work fine with it.


Now you need to know which textures are which (you didn't think it was that easy, did you?):

b707_1_t ---- Front of aircraft

Here you can paint the front of the aircraft as well as a door

b707_2_t ---- Back of aircraft

Here you can paint the back of the aircraft (duh), the bottom and the cargo hold if you want

b707_3_t ---- Left wing

The name says it all. You can edit the top and bottom of the wing, lights, and much more. Just about everything that's on the wing. Wink

b707_4_t ---- The right side of the wing.

Here you can edit the wing, flaps (I think) and the entrance of the plane near the cockpit.

b707_5_t ---- The Tail and fin

Here, edit the tail and fin of the aircraft

b707_6_t ---- The engines

Edit the engines here. You can even edit the turbo fan!

b707_7_t ---- Cockpit

In here you can change everything in the cockpit, from the pilots face to the instrument panel. Plus there's a bonus... the wheels can also be changed.  Wink


Now, open one of them and you should see, well, nothing to be exact:



Now, see on the bottom right hand corner, the thing with the names and stuff. Well, that is the layers. Photoshop uses a lot of this.



What are layers? Well, the name says it all. Its like pieces of your picture. You can select one, and work on it without damaging other layers. Its very useful. Anyway, you see the little eye next to some of the layer's names? Click that and that layer will appear. When you want to make a repaint, be sure to open only the layers you need. Otherwise you could end up with a Boeing 707-E-3 ADV!  Shocked


So, lets say you want to do a repaint for the -320 ADV. You first open every layers that is needed for the -320 ADV. It should look something like this at first:



Now, here's the cool part. You can select a layer from the bottom right hand corner again and it will appear blue:



But that's not the cool part (even though it is very cool!  Grin). Once you've selected a layer, you can work on it without damaging other layers. By that I mean you can try to paint other other layers but nothing will happen until you  select it. When repainting you'll be using this for almost every repaint you do!  Cool


Okay, now you know the basics. Lets move on to the more complex stuff....... the actual repaint!

First, you MUST always have a picture of which aircraft your repainting (Unless your doing you own made up one  Roll Eyes ) I'll use the pictures of Principal Air Boeing 707-320B to demonstrate (why the 707? Because I LOVE IT!  Smiley)



This Picture is enough to do a repaint, but you should always have a picture of every side of an aircraft first. (If your one of those lazy people like me  Roll Eyes who don't like researching a lot, a picture of sideways and front is enough for a accurate repaint). Now, let's talk about how to use your tools.


Before you do a repaint, do an experiment with every tool there is on the left. There's plenty of them. If you want details about them, just ask me and I'll help you out.


Okay, know for the techniques. They say that a good magician never reveals his secrets. Well, I've never been a good magician, so I tell you all the secrets of repainting (Not every one because otherwise I could write a book!  Cheesy). When repainting, always start with one section and don't do another until finishing it. I usually start with the cockpit because there's not much to do there.  Roll Eyes So, lets just say that you want to get the engines blue. First, you need a tool to select it so that we don't paint over something else. I would recommend the Polygonal  Lasso Tool



You can also use the Magnetic Lasso Tool but you can have more accuracy using this one (The Polygonal tool) .



So zoom in so you can see every pixel (That's like a tiny dot that makes the picture) of the engine. Use this to zoom:



You should zoom in until your picture starts too look like this:



Then, use your Lasso tool that you choose and start going over the engine. Once you've done a that, just add paint.


Now for something a little harder. The tail of the aircraft. What I did was I printed the picture. Then used the Polygonal  Lasso Tool to start selecting it. I would slowly start to bend it and go all the way around it. It can take some time and there is easier ways to go around these things but I like to have control over what I'm doing.


Well, that's about all you need to know to make the repaint, but now to make it the correct format.


You need to download this first (don't worry, its safe): http://www.mnwright.btinternet.co.uk/programs/dxtbmp.htm
2) Run DXTBMP, then, FILE, OPEN, browse to the texture you wish to change, and click OPEN.
3) In the right hand pane you will see a small area marked "Mipmaps", UNTICK the "include when saving" tick box.
4) Click FILE, SAVE AS, EXTENDED BITMAP, in the "save as type" dropdown box click DXT3, then hit save.
5) Continue for all other 32-bit textures.

And that's it! Then, upload it to AVSIM or keep it for yourself. Its up to you.


Man, that took me forever to write!  Grin If you have any other questions like how to use a specific tool or something don't hesitate to ask me, okay. I'm on the forum all day.

PS - Sorry Captain Sim, I know you don't like to have people write long posts.  Lips Sealed
  

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Re: Bon Jovi
Reply #47 - Aug 7th, 2007 at 9:16pm
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How long have you been repainting?


For a while now. I have thousands of repaints on my USB. Roll Eyes In fact, I have a 2 GB USB that's got nothing but repaints. I don't upload much on the Internet. I usually keep them for myself. I will upload them in the future when I make my own website or something. Right now, not bothered. Just living the easy life.  Grin  Wink
  

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Reply #48 - Aug 7th, 2007 at 10:05pm
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Thanks for your time teaching me how to do this. Have you seen cs2, is it worth it to get cs3? where did you get your version?
thanks again, I can't put it into words how much this means to me. I still don't get how you could repaint from a picture with a wierd angle like that, You must be a genius. and how do you get the lines to line up on the tail to the back to the front?
also the 727 doesn't have all of the files you described what do I need to do.

  

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Re: Bon Jovi
Reply #49 - Aug 8th, 2007 at 7:31am
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wabash10 wrote on Aug 7th, 2007 at 10:05pm:
Have you seen cs2, is it worth it to get cs3?


I used to have CS2. It is very good but CS3 is even better. If you want to get CS3, I think you can buy it as an upgrade for CS2, costing you much less. I now use CS3.  Wink

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where did you get your version?


You mean photoshop? I got it at a computer store near mt house. You can find photoshop in nearly every store that deals with computer Hardware.

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I still don't get how you could repaint from a picture with a wierd angle like that


Well, it is kinda hard but after a while you get used to it. What I do it I save the picture into my computer, use photoshop to zoom in on what I want to see (Like the engines, I zoomed into them and saw that engine number 2 on the left didn't have blue on the top). The good thing about real liverys is that each side is almost Identicle to the other. For example, the left side of a Boeing 707, in this case, which is blue, would be the same as the right side.

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how do you get the lines to line up on the tail to the back to the front?


Well this is a bit differcult to line everything up right. Because, you'r not working on a already made plane, your just working on a puzzle that's yet to be made. That's why testing goes a long way in making repaints. Lets use the tail for expamle. In real life, one side of the tail is going to be the same as the other. So, you want to have the lines at the same angle, degree, leghnth and shape. This sound confusing, and you're proberbly wondering how can you do that? Well, first, start working on one side. Once it is done, you want the other part to do. What I do is I use the Polygonal  Lasso Tool, zoom in on the tail and select it. This has to be done right and 100% accurate. What I then do, once it has been selected it I copy it, and paste it on the other side. I then rotate it, slowly put it over the other side and once its there I have to check everything. I first zoom out to see how it will look like from afar. Then, I zoom in very tight, and see if every pixel is covered up. If one of them is missing, I would paint over it instead of moving the pasted item.

Now, to get those white lines is very easy. First, I need a good picture of the tail. The picture you gave me here helped a LOT. Thanks for that.   Smiley



So, first I printed the picture, and then I wanted to see where everything was. The colour I used was...

R 19

G 47

B 129

Then, I selected the background layer and paited all of the tail blue. Then, I used the Polygonal Lasso Tool and slowly starting selecting over where the parts where going to be. See, I would move it slowly down (because I started from the top), and then change its degree angle down a bit, and continue until I was all the way there and back up again. You need to look at the picture a lot too. Once I had that, all I did was ues the Eraser Tool and get rid of the blue paint, returning it to white. Just Make sure that when yo do that you have the background layer selected, just so that it doesn't damage the details on the tail. And then do it for the other white line and thats it!

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also the 727 doesn't have all of the files you described what do I need to do


Don't worry. Those files I said are only for the Boeing 707. The 727 has its own set of files.  Wink


Oh! I almost forgot, you also need to rename your files once finished to tell the computer which ones there for. Here is what you should rename them to (this is just for the 707):

707B
b707_a1_T.bmp
b707_a2_T.bmp
b707_3_T.bmp
b707_4_T.bmp
b707_a5_T.bmp
b707_a6_T.bmp
b707_7_T.bmp

707ADV
b707_b1_T.bmp
b707_b2_T.bmp
b707_3_T.bmp
b707_4_T.bmp
b707_b5_T.bmp
b707_b6_T.bmp
b707_7_T.bmp

707C
b707_e1_T.bmp
b707_e2_T.bmp
b707_3_T.bmp
b707_4_T.bmp
b707_e5_T.bmp
b707_e6_T.bmp
b707_e7_T.bmp

E-3A
b707_g1_T.bmp
b707_g2_T.bmp
b707_g3_T.bmp
b707_g4_T.bmp
b707_g5_T.bmp
b707_g6_T.bmp
b707_g7_T.bmp

VC-137C
b707_f1_T.bmp
b707_f2_T.bmp
b707_3_T.bmp
b707_4_T.bmp
b707_f5_T.bmp
b707_f6_T.bmp
b707_7_T.bmp

If you have any other questions just ask me.  Wink
  

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Reply #50 - Aug 9th, 2007 at 5:11pm
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Just thought I'd see how you were doing, What do I need to rename the files for the 727? Would you know or where could I get extra instructions on each aircraft?
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Reply #51 - Aug 9th, 2007 at 8:00pm
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Just thought I'd see how you were doing


I'm adding a few thing to make it look better during the night, however I'm going on holiday soon so am rushing to get it done tonight.

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What do I need to rename the files for the 727?


I don't know for the 727. I don't have it (yet). But you should have a txt. file which has that information. For my 707 the file is called "textures names" Do a search on your computer, it should be the same names and in the folder with the textures. If you don't find it ask Captain Sim.  I'll download the 727 repaint kit and tell you later on. Wink

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Would you know or where could I get extra instructions on each aircraft?


What are you looking for?
  

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Reply #52 - Aug 9th, 2007 at 8:03pm
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Okay, for the 727 textures there is 2 repaint kits so I don't know which one you want. Download the one you want and in the folder there should be some instructions.

http://www.captainsim.com/support/dl/rk727.html
  

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Reply #53 - Aug 10th, 2007 at 5:24pm
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Okay, I am trying to make the 727-100
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Reply #54 - Aug 10th, 2007 at 5:28pm
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Okay. I'll download the repaint kit and tell you later.  Wink
  

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Reply #55 - Aug 10th, 2007 at 5:35pm
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Okay, I downloaded it but it only has textures, it doesn't tell me the names. I think you need to contact Captain Sim for that.
  

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Reply #56 - Aug 10th, 2007 at 8:27pm
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okay thanks
I hope you have a good vacation, You can finish it when you get back if you want.
  

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Reply #57 - Aug 10th, 2007 at 8:43pm
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Thanks wabash. I'm going tomorrow. I'll still be on the forum once in a while. Right now getting my thing ready. I really needed a vacation... been 1 month and all I have done is eat, play video games and going on the computer! Haven't been 1 day outside (too hot, 56 degrees here)
  

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Reply #58 - Aug 11th, 2007 at 2:47am
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what do you save it out of photoshop as?
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Reply #59 - Aug 11th, 2007 at 7:58am
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You have to save it as a BMP file, then use the software from http://www.mnwright.btinternet.co.uk/programs/dxtbmp.htm to save it as a DXT3 Extended Bitmap. Don't forget to unctick the box.  Wink
  

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