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Nov 19th, 2021 at 1:57am
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I just installed the latest MSFS update and now taxiing the 777 is impossible. When I try to turn, the nose wheel turns but the plane is extremely unresponsive almost as if nose wheel steering is disabled. Any help is appreciated
  
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Reply #1 - Nov 19th, 2021 at 1:59am
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And yes I did turn off all the assistance options. I don't have this issue with any other plane, only the CS 777
  
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Reply #2 - Nov 20th, 2021 at 3:35am
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I just tried it now, with the GOTY update, and it turns fine while taxiing. I can't see why it isn't for you.
Maybe you need to do a computer restart so it fixes the problem. Undecided
  

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Reply #3 - Nov 22nd, 2021 at 2:53am
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I had this issue prior to SU7 but now it is working properly. However the 777 is a big b--- and she still needs some room to turn.

I got around it in the meantime by when turning left using only my right side engine and vise versa. Helped a lot.
  
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Reply #4 - Nov 22nd, 2021 at 3:10am
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Perhaps modifying the settings for the nose gear "contact point" might allow it to steer a bit better. I know it's stored in Community\captainsim-aircraft-m772\SimObjects\Airplanes\CS_B777-200ER_GE90B\flig
ht_model.cfg
, but I need to check and see how those settings differ, if at all, from the way it's done in FSX/P3D.

Overall, I don't find it too bad. Slowing down to say 10 knots, after reaching 20 knots, it turns pretty good for me. Undecided
  

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Reply #5 - Nov 22nd, 2021 at 3:23am
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To add further to my reply above, it could be the number in bold text below:

point.0 = 1, -16.92, 0, -18.85,   720, 0, 1.8, 70,  1.8,  1.0, 0.9,  9, 8, 0, 270, 290, 2
point.1 = 1, -102.5, -18, -19.8, 1500, 1, 2.2,  0,  1.4, 1.15, 0.9, 13, 11, 2, 270, 290, 2
point.2 = 1, -102.5, 18, -19.8,  1500, 2, 2.2,  0,  1.4, 1.15, 0.9, 13, 11, 3, 270, 290, 2
point.3 = 2, -136.7, -100, 4.8, 100, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 5, 0, 0, 1
point.4 = 2, -136.7, 100, 5, 100, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 6, 0, 0, 1
point.5 = 2, 2.5, 0, -2, 100, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 9, 0, 0, 1
point.6 = 2, -174.0, 0, -5.15, 720, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 4, 0, 0, 1
point.7 = 2, -199.5, 0, 41, 500, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 8, 0, 0, 1
point.8 = 2, -47.5, 0, -10.1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 4, 0, 0, 1
point.9 = 2, -134.2, 0, -10.1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 4, 0, 0, 1

The reason for me thinking that it might be that, is because all the other 8th entries, on all the other lines, is 0.
That makes me think that it's possibly the turn angle, of 70o, for the nose gear.
So increasing it to say 90 (90o), or even higher, might improve the taxiing steering.
  

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Reply #6 - Nov 23rd, 2021 at 5:58am
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I had no luck with changing it to 90. The 777 is still going straight when I try to turn during taxi.

It did not behave this way during SU6. Only after SU7 did this happen. And yes I did a fresh re-install of FS2020 and its still doing the same thing. No other aircraft is doing this.

Again, I start off on the runway, add thrust, get to maybe 5-10 knots, slightly move the rudder. I can see the nosewheel turn but the airplane just keeps going straight. Please help!
  
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Reply #7 - Nov 23rd, 2021 at 5:59am
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It turns ever so slightly, just barely. But it is impossible to make any turns onto a taxiway.
  
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Reply #8 - Dec 9th, 2021 at 10:09am
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I got the exact same issue.
  
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Reply #9 - Dec 9th, 2021 at 3:57pm
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If I'm doing about 10 knots, or less, it turns reasonably well, albeit quite slowly. At least it stays on the taxi lines when I'm turning at that speed. Smiley
  

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Reply #10 - Dec 10th, 2021 at 12:38pm
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I got the exact same issue.
  
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Reply #11 - Dec 10th, 2021 at 12:42pm
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Markoz wrote on Dec 9th, 2021 at 3:57pm:
If I'm doing about 10 knots, or less, it turns reasonably well, albeit quite slowly. At least it stays on the taxi lines when I'm turning at that speed. Smiley


For me, it is between 1 and 2 knots to turn onto the runway. The gear turns about 50-70 degrees, but it seems to slide forward, with only a slight turn. Even when going 2-3 knots.

coldhaulfield wrote on Dec 10th, 2021 at 12:38pm:
I got the exact same issue.

Sorry about the double post. Doesn't seem like I can delete the extra post my browser sent in...
  
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Reply #12 - Dec 10th, 2021 at 5:36pm
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ATP rated pilot... I know what speed to turn while taxiing. I'm telling you, the nose wheel is turning. The aircraft doesn't turn. Its like its stuck going straight. I just reinstalled for the umpteenth time. This isn't working. What now?
  
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Reply #13 - Dec 10th, 2021 at 6:08pm
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I think I found a clue. When I load the flight to start on the runway, it will not taxi off the runway. When you load the airplane cold and dark and push back from the gate and taxi, it seems to work fine. Any ideas?
  
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Reply #14 - Dec 11th, 2021 at 2:48am
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EfisCompMon wrote on Dec 10th, 2021 at 6:08pm:
I think I found a clue. When I load the flight to start on the runway, it will not taxi off the runway. When you load the airplane cold and dark and push back from the gate and taxi, it seems to work fine. Any ideas?
Does this mean the taxiing doesn't work so good after you arrive, or before you take off, or both?

I just did a test, where I started on the runway, I took off, flew around the airport, and landed. I then taxied off the runway, and to a parking gate/ramp. Doing that, I found it was the same as it is when taxiing after starting from cold and dark.

Note. I was using the 777-200ER. The turns during taxiing are fine as long as the speed stays at, or below, 10 knots, turning was okay (slow but okay). I often brake slightly to assist the start of the turn. Also, the engines N1 was at between 37.0, and 44.0 during the taxiing.
  

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Reply #15 - Dec 11th, 2021 at 5:15pm
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If you load the flight on the runway, and try taxiing down the runway first, you will notice it will not allow you to turn. This was the issue I was having. Any ideas why?
  
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Reply #16 - Dec 11th, 2021 at 10:42pm
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I'm using the -300. Terrible turns. Have tried with and without mods, and reinstalled. The only thing that works is to turn at 2 knots, and still then it slides more forward than it turns. Just barely makes a 90 degree turn onto the runway.

Is it the same with the -200?
  
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Reply #17 - Dec 12th, 2021 at 2:02am
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After testing the CS 777-300ER, after starting on the runway, instead of taking off, I taxiied off the runway and onto the taxi way, and taxied to the Gates, and parked. I found that the turning during taxiing, was the just same as it is for the CS 777-200ER. Undecided

What type of controller are you using?

Note. I'm using a Logitech Extreme 3D Pro joystick.
  

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Reply #18 - Dec 12th, 2021 at 12:57pm
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Markoz wrote on Dec 12th, 2021 at 2:02am:
After testing the CS 777-300ER, after starting on the runway, instead of taking off, I taxiied off the runway and onto the taxi way, and taxied to the Gates, and parked. I found that the turning during taxiing, was the just same as it is for the CS 777-200ER. Undecided

What type of controller are you using?

Note. I'm using a Logitech Extreme 3D Pro joystick.


Seems odd that so many are experiencing this issue while your 777 seems to do fine.
Have you confirmed that you're not on some future beta we're not?

Also, one thing I always check when a plane is acting funky is if the flight model turned itself back to legacy.  I've seen MSFS do this on its own, esp after updates.
  

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Reply #19 - Dec 13th, 2021 at 1:25am
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Steved wrote on Dec 12th, 2021 at 12:57pm:
Have you confirmed that you're not on some future beta we're not?

Definitely not a future beta in use - AFAIK, there have not been any betas for the 777 Captain III [MSFS2020]. And if there were, I've neither see or heard of them. Undecided
These are the versions I have installed in MSFS2020 (all current versions, no updates available):
777-200ER v1.0.1.2
777-300ER v1.0.1.3
777F v1.0.1.3
  

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Reply #20 - Dec 21st, 2021 at 7:06pm
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Just to reach back out, Im also using the same joystick you are. You are welcome to set up a time with me and remote in if you want to see. I was going to take advantage of the 9.99 sale but I don't want to spend anymore money if I'm going to continue having problems taxiing.
  
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