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Re: Long haul flight is going well
Reply #15 - Jul 12th, 2013 at 12:30am
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Markoz wrote on Jul 11th, 2013 at 1:23pm:
Do you adjust the TRIM to the same setting (or s close as you can get) as listed on the TAKEOFF page? I do this as often as I can (which depends on if I remember or not). It seems to effect the takeoff performance if I don't do it. Undecided


I can never determine my CG, I think that's the problem  Undecided
  

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Re: Long haul flight is going well
Reply #16 - Jul 12th, 2013 at 2:03am
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LOLcakes wrote on Jul 12th, 2013 at 12:30am:
Markoz wrote on Jul 11th, 2013 at 1:23pm:
Do you adjust the TRIM to the same setting (or s close as you can get) as listed on the TAKEOFF page? I do this as often as I can (which depends on if I remember or not). It seems to effect the takeoff performance if I don't do it. Undecided


I can never determine my CG, I think that's the problem  Undecided


IMO the problem would be easily solved adding a field in 777's ACE, showing ZFWCG and TOCG values during all loading steps (pax + cargo + fuel) as used by another developer. This way, we would have accurate data to insert into the FMC.
  

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Re: Long haul flight is going well
Reply #17 - Jul 12th, 2013 at 2:39am
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This works for me, about as accurate as you can get! http://www.captainsim.org/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1220997876
  
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Re: Long haul flight is going well
Reply #18 - Jul 12th, 2013 at 7:46am
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Christianz wrote on Jul 11th, 2013 at 4:01pm:
Im on my half my to VTBS from ENGM and the flight is going well except the autopilot's behavior

Video from cruise.
You might need to change the [Custom Autopilot] settings:

From this:

[Custom Autopilot]
AP_Roll_speed=3.91
AP_Roll_window=5.7
AP_Roll_controlstep=2825


To this:

[Custom Autopilot]
AP_Roll_speed=4
AP_Roll_window=7
AP_Roll_controlstep=1500


Jack Vogel wrote on Jul 11th, 2013 at 4:20pm:
So, for those of you doing these long hauls, does this mean that
anti-ice nonsense is no longer a problem, or do I still have to worry about my engines flaming out if I don't give some magic key sequence?

Also, it sounds from the description, that no one has VNAV working on takeoff, is that correct?
The Anti-Ice seems to be working (I left them set on AUTO and did NOT use SHIFT+H to turn the carb heat on, which was a fix in v1.1!

VNAV is working fine for me! It went wonky on me, as I stated in my original post. When I tried it again, with my joystick disabled. It performed just fine. It didn't wobble at all. The turn was very smooth.

BrzI wrote on Jul 11th, 2013 at 9:33pm:
Did I read correctly ? You manually change TO to CLB in the CDU ?

Should this not be automatic with LNAV, VNAV and TOGA set at takeoff and AP engaged after 400 ft  ?
No you did not read it correctly. I said I did not change it from TO to CLB (it was in reference to a post of yours that I had read in the forum though). I left it to do what it does it's own way. Should it change on its own normally? I don't know. Undecided
I am not, nor have I ever been, a real pilot, so I don't normally check that in these modern airliners, unless an addon aircraft requires them to be changed manually, then I do change them. So IF they should change automatically and don't, then I would have to say that it's wrong. All in all, the flight was really good from beginning to end. Except for that bit of a wobble at the beginning, that seems to be being caused by my joystick (see my response to Jack Vogel question).

LOLcakes wrote on Jul 12th, 2013 at 12:30am:
Markoz wrote on Jul 11th, 2013 at 1:23pm:
Do you adjust the TRIM to the same setting (or s close as you can get) as listed on the TAKEOFF page? I do this as often as I can (which depends on if I remember or not). It seems to effect the takeoff performance if I don't do it. Undecided


I can never determine my CG, I think that's the problem  Undecided
I'm not sure, but it might be the reason. I just did a test flight with a very light aircraft (TOW 379,605) and it never went above 5500 fpm.

I know the Captain Sim 777 isn't perfect, but I am very pleased with the results I'm getting in v1.2. As always, that's how I feel about it. It is good enough (and was in v1.1 IMO) for some very long haul flights that I want to do in it. Wink

  

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Re: Long haul flight is going well
Reply #19 - Jul 12th, 2013 at 11:56pm
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Mark, did you see any anomalies with the chronometer during the flight?

I did a small North-South test flight yesterday and saw the clock jump from 10:59 (which was the correct (P:Local time, xxxx) time) to 12:00. It skipped an hour ahead of local time.

I can see where there has been some improvements in the clocks but I feel there are still some bugs.
  

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Re: Long haul flight is going well
Reply #20 - Jul 13th, 2013 at 2:30am
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Lost in Isaan wrote on Jul 12th, 2013 at 11:56pm:
Mark, did you see any anomalies with the chronometer during the flight?

I did a small North-South test flight yesterday and saw the clock jump from 10:59 (which was the correct (P:Local time, xxxx) time) to 12:00. It skipped an hour ahead of local time.

I can see where there has been some improvements in the clocks but I feel there are still some bugs.

Clock acts strange like you describe. The time/timer display sometimes disappears for a few minutes, but it always comes back. I don'y know what time it displays because it is never the local time, nor GMT/UTC time.

Yep. Still some work needed.
  

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Reply #21 - Jul 13th, 2013 at 3:32am
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Just did my first long haul (YSSY - OMDB) and apart from the pitot heat issue (had to press SHIFT-H) didn't have any major issues, in fact it was the first relatively trouble free flight I have done in the CS 777 - well done.
  

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Re: Long haul flight is going well
Reply #22 - Jul 13th, 2013 at 4:38am
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pup wrote on Jul 13th, 2013 at 3:32am:
Just did my first long haul (YSSY - OMDB) and apart from the pitot heat issue (had to press SHIFT-H) didn't have any major issues, in fact it was the first relatively trouble free flight I have done in the CS 777 - well done.

I did a flight where I thought I should have gotten that problem, but I didn't. I assumed that because the Upper EICAS was displaying EAI beside the N1 indicators, that the Anti Ice was working like it should. I guess I will have to check it out by flying somewhere really cold (starting to shiver just thinking about it)! Undecided
  

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Re: Long haul flight is going well
Reply #23 - Jul 14th, 2013 at 3:58am
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Markoz wrote on Jul 12th, 2013 at 7:46am:
AP_Roll_speed=4
AP_Roll_window=7
AP_Roll_controlstep=1500

This setting takes out the slight oscillation in the AP and it also rolls into turns a bit less aggressively.

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Re: Long haul flight is going well
Reply #24 - Jul 14th, 2013 at 2:28pm
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Saratoga wrote on Jul 14th, 2013 at 3:58am:
Markoz wrote on Jul 12th, 2013 at 7:46am:
AP_Roll_speed=4
AP_Roll_window=7
AP_Roll_controlstep=1500

This setting takes out the slight oscillation in the AP and it also rolls into turns a bit less aggressively.

Ben

In the takeoff, climb and cruise phases of the flight, I don't see any difference between that setting and the one that comes in v1.2.
But using the above settings, and once I'm close to landing (about 2 miles from the runway), my 777 starts rocking left and right, getting worse as it gets closer to the runway, and most often ends with it crashing. Sometimes it's lucky and just bounces around on the grass beside the runway without crashing (because the main gear on one side contacts the ground first), but not very often.
If I switch back to the one that comes with v1.2, it comes in straight and level every time, even with a 20-30 knot crosswind. It also lands in the centre of the runway every time.
So I guess one uses the settings that gives the results. Wink
  

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Re: Long haul flight is going well
Reply #25 - Jul 15th, 2013 at 6:02pm
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Hi Mark I noticed the same thing by changing to the 4.7.1500 settings the
aircraft is stable in flight.. but off when landing.. Your correct  I often come in
to land to my left on autopilot always..... if I use the original setting I get unstable flight but straight down the middle landings....is there a work around?

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Re: Long haul flight is going well
Reply #26 - Jul 16th, 2013 at 8:46am
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Hi Carlo.

It's strange that yours is steady during the ILS approach, but not in the flight. With the 1.2 default settings, mine appears to be fine in all phases of flight. I don't have any solution really, except to maybe try different settings. Like trying a mix of both settings. Undecided
  

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