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Prepar3d and Captain Sim products
Mar 16th, 2012 at 6:14am
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hi guys,
new forum member (as you will no doubt notice from my first thread blow up about registration...cant bloody read the darn security code among other issues namely, the email validation not working correctly).

anyway, enough complaining!

i have prepar3d and wish to install my captain sim purchase/s to run in prepar3d. (i say "/s" cause im contemplating additional buys if i receive positive response from this query)

how do i go about doing that exactly???? Huh
  
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Reply #1 - Mar 16th, 2012 at 12:33pm
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All our products are designed for Microsoft Flight Simulator.
Product modification for Prepar3d is a different story (money).
  
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Reply #2 - Mar 16th, 2012 at 8:21pm
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oh ok.
does that mean that your producst cannot be used in prepar3d at all as no one has any patches to make em work?

my interest in running prepar3d is mainly because i am having terrible computer hardware stability issues running fsx, that i do not encounter in prepar3d. Undecided

specifically, i have two gigabyte graphics cards (1 ati radeon 6970 and 1 gtx570) on my board...not in sli mode obviously! If i attempt to run both cards in fsx i get a system crash, not immediately but it does happen whilst attempting to take off in the mooney for example (crashes with c130 whilst taxing).

when i move over to the prepar3d simulator (on the same computer system), i have no stability problems at all running both cards together!

im very dissapointed that i cannot run the c130 in prepar3d as i absolutely love the aircraft.

is there anyway to get an installer that will allow instillation into the prepar3d folder?

  
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Reply #3 - Mar 18th, 2012 at 10:27am
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There is a way, i asked the same question a while back when i tested P3D but i cannot share how i got them to install/work with P3D Sad

I only installed them for testing reasons as part of my one month trial of P3D and at the moment i do not have P3D installed so my CS products are only installed in FSX. The 757 worked like a dream btw Smiley

P3D imo needs to mature a little more before i consider to move across to that platform and i hope in time CS will sort something out to allow us to use our CS aircraft in P3D Smiley
  

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Reply #4 - Apr 2nd, 2012 at 12:57am
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Over recent days I have taken a cursory interest in Prepar3D and with the release of the $49.00 version could quiet easily buy it when V2.0 is available. Most every review and comment I have read has been very positive.

I guess I'm sort of influenced by the interest and works going on at the likes of ORBX and REX, they are making big inroads into migrating their products to P3D and may know something we mere mortals don't about the future of FSX. We know Microsoft does not support or develop FSX anymore, P3D has based their product on the FSX platform and I believe some of the old ACES development team are working for Lockheed Martin now on this product. It can only get better.

IMHO P3D may become the base line and many 3rd party developers will be forced into comparability to remain competitive.

As I dabble in software/file configuration I will head down the path @gandy has taken and try to get ALL my 3rd party addons working including my CS purchases. Don't know if licensing will be an issue or not, ORBX has made their migration tool free to it's customers.  Wink
  

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Reply #5 - Apr 2nd, 2012 at 3:08am
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Lost in Isaan wrote on Apr 2nd, 2012 at 12:57am:
Over recent days I have taken a cursory interest in Prepar3D and with the release of the $49.00 version could quiet easily buy it when V2.0 is available. Most every review and comment I have read has been very positive.
That does sound like good news on the Prepar3d. I would be willing to pay $49, rather than $10 per month or the $199 on the full version! I see that it is an Academic License, so I might not qualify (50+ years old). I might just have to settle for the $199 version. Sad

Lost in Isaan wrote on Apr 2nd, 2012 at 12:57am:
IMHO P3D may become the base line and many 3rd party developers will be forced into comparability to remain competitive.
The "other developer" (NGX etc.) had said they weren't going to move to Prepar3d because of legal problems that could occur with the products. They don't want their products to be used for real world training that Prepar3d is designed for. Has this changed? I don't visit their forums much so that is why I'm asking.

Lost in Isaan wrote on Apr 2nd, 2012 at 12:57am:
As I dabble in software/file configuration I will head down the path @gandy has taken and try to get ALL my 3rd party addons working including my CS purchases. Don't know if licensing will be an issue or not, ORBX has made their migration tool free to it's customers.  Wink
If Captain Sim are okay on this, I would do it too.

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Reply #6 - Apr 2nd, 2012 at 4:42am
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Markoz wrote on Apr 2nd, 2012 at 3:08am:
That does sound like good news on the Prepar3d. I would be willing to pay $49, rather than $10 per month or the $199 on the full version! I see that it is an Academic License, so I might not qualify (50+ years old). I might just have to settle for the $199 version. Sad
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I'm 50++ as well but always learning so that being the case I would have no conscience buying the Academic version, in fact it's quite OK by their definition of the licensing agreements.

Both the Academic and Professional versions are exactly the same product. The Academic license aimed at the single user (gamer) and Professional at flying schools etc. Although originally aimed at pilot education it is obvious LM is looking at the gaming market with the Academic license and the fact that major 3rd party addons are becoming affiliated.
  

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Reply #7 - Apr 2nd, 2012 at 5:04am
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Lost in Isaan wrote on Apr 2nd, 2012 at 4:42am:
Markoz wrote on Apr 2nd, 2012 at 3:08am:
That does sound like good news on the Prepar3d. I would be willing to pay $49, rather than $10 per month or the $199 on the full version! I see that it is an Academic License, so I might not qualify (50+ years old). I might just have to settle for the $199 version. Sad
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I'm 50++ as well but always learning so that being the case I would have no conscience buying the Academic version, in fact it's quite OK by their definition of the licensing agreements.

Both the Academic and Professional versions are exactly the same product. The Academic license aimed at the single user (gamer) and Professional at flying schools etc. Although originally aimed at pilot education it is obvious LM is looking at the gaming market with the Academic license and the fact that major 3rd party addons are becoming affiliated.
Well if that's the case, then I would be happy to spent $50 to buy Prepar3d Academic. I don't think an "unobtrusive watermark" is going to bother me too much, if at all.

As you have said, the reports on it are very good. Other than the old pricing, I can't remember any negative remarks.

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Reply #8 - Apr 2nd, 2012 at 8:14am
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Here is two screen shots with the CS757-200 so you can see what the watermark is like, Sorry for the poor quality of the screen shots as my GTX470 died the other day and im now using an ATI HD4870 with 512meg of memory which is quite an old card now so i cant do much with the AA and AF as well as ground scenery.



  

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Reply #9 - Apr 2nd, 2012 at 9:03am
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Must be me olde eyes, can't see the water mark in either screen shot --- Great!

I'll admit I'm between Desktop PC's in transit from Thailand to Brisbane and looking for them on my less than adequate notebook!  Sad
  

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Reply #10 - Apr 2nd, 2012 at 12:39pm
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Lost in Isaan wrote on Apr 2nd, 2012 at 9:03am:
Must be me olde eyes, can't see the water mark in either screen shot --- Great!

I'll admit I'm between Desktop PC's in transit from Thailand to Brisbane and looking for them on my less than adequate notebook!  Sad

I see them! Click on the thumbnails a new bowser tab/window opens. Click on the pic in that new browser tab/window and you will see them full size. You will see it the best in the exterior shot. It took a really close look to see it, it is almost totally invisible. That is a huge plus for buying that version! I shall look into this over the next couple of weeks.

@ gandy. Thanks for the pics. They have helped me a lot. Smiley
  

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Reply #11 - Apr 2nd, 2012 at 2:20pm
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@Mark, you can get the Academic Version. Just claim you are doing testing of aircraft in simulation and studying bug fixes and cross platforms of FSX and Prepar3D Wink. By the way 50 isnt to old for academics, my 83 year old father in law uses the Academic version and the CS 707 his baby as he call it. He piloted a 707 for American years ago and so the Academic V makes him feel whole and brings back the memories along with the CS707. @ Captain sim my father in law thanks you for making the 707 and making an old RW 707 Pilot happy in the 21st centry Smiley
  

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Reply #12 - Apr 6th, 2012 at 11:19am
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After looking at the licensing, it is not a cheap venture. Free upgrades for point updates (i.e. 1.3, 1.4 etc.), but a price must be paid for the next major update (i.e 1.x - 2.0, 2.x - 3.0 etc.). Not that promising really. Not sure I want to pay $US50 for each major update unless it really proves to be worth it. I might wait until v2.0, so I get a good run with it (hopefully).

I almost went through the whole process of buying it and never saw it ask why I wanted the Academic version. Maybe they don'y worry too much about it. Undecided

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Reply #13 - Apr 6th, 2012 at 4:13pm
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v2 of prepar3d is a long way away Mark, i could be talking well over a year.. maybe 2+ but the best way to look at P3D v2 is the same as you would fs9 to fs10 or ms office versions.

If you did buy v1.3 it will always be there for you even if you brought v2 as LM wont cancel your licence for it.

This does catch people off and they dont agree with LM charging for v2, if Microsoft didn't kill flight sim development and released v11 they would be happy to pay for it even though it would be v11 and its the same thing.

There is issues with P3D that are being worked on so it wont be for everyone and as there is very little software that supports P3D mainly down to the installers its a lot of hard work doing manual installs of your favourite cs aircraft and other addons

I have done a short test ( not a full test ) of the CS 737-200 0.7 in P3D and it works like a dream, just the way it does in fsx so in a way it would be nice if CS added a P3D ready 737-200 as the only thing different is the location of the dll.xml and and the prepar3d base folder so it would only be the installer that needs pointing to the new locations Smiley
  

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Reply #14 - Apr 6th, 2012 at 5:19pm
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I spent some time in the forums reading up on the licensing, so I know they don't dump you if you do not upgrade to the next level. It is hard for me to see how v2.0 could be compared to the move from FS9 to FSX because it is based on FSX. Sure. If it is a big enough improvement from v1.x, it would justify another US$50 when it happens. I did think of that in my reply above, but chose not to say it. It is early days for me and my investigation of Prepar3d. I could end up buying it anyway. Time will tell.

Right now I'm throwing money into more Orbx airports and possibly US scenery. With Orbx switching to free SBSL with there scenery, it makes the move to P3D, if and when I make it, an even easier move. Wink

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