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Re: St. Maarten Approach
Reply #30 - Oct 4th, 2011 at 3:44pm
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The first time I ever did it was in the mid 80's with FS 2.x. I did it in a C182 I think it was. It was a Cessna though. I have never tried it in anything bigger than a Cessna though, so it will be fun to know how you go.

When I did it in the Cessna, I had the wind set at about 60-70 knots. One time I tried it at 100 knots, but it kept blowing the plane backwards and nothing I did made it go forwards. I had to land it where ever I could (off the runway), of which anyone who remembers FS2, can tell you it was easy because the grass and the runways were the same except for the colour.

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Reply #31 - Oct 4th, 2011 at 5:43pm
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I know about the wind guys! It's just that I have RE-X, and I don't want to mess with is. I always put weather at fair, so that means that in London, 270 degrees is where the wind is coming from, not 90 degrees. I'll just use custom weather then. Maybee I can change it that way.
  

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Reply #32 - Oct 4th, 2011 at 11:30pm
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Mark, that leads me to the question if you ever landed backwards.  Shocked


Sonoace, so you had winds from the West and the planes still refused to use the westbound runways?
I have to fire up my sim later and check EGLL, but I "only" have the latest UK version. I don't know if that makes a difference, but I remember using the 27 L/R quite some times.

By the way, I did not get the impression that you are mixing something up on the winds.  Smiley
For testing, leave the REX engine off and use the FSX weather dialogue only.

If you want to see close to real operations at Heathrow, fly online. The UK guys are very precise when it comes to rw-like procedures and runway assignments. The also run a dedicated briefing room for Heathrow and the London area.
And their London director guys are pros, as far as I can humbly tell. One of the best ATC experience available, especially in dense hours.

And you can bet that my poor skills really must have thrown a train load of work on them.  Cheesy

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I've just tried. Custom FSX weather was set at winds from 266 at 15 kts and the UT2 traffic then goes for the 27L/R. Looks ok to me. ATC also gave me the 27L for departure.

Note the wind readout at the top, the aircraft on the runway, the departed one and the ones taxiing to the runway.

Haha, I also did a test with a 45 kts wind. That Ultralight had zero GS and hovered above the runway, so Mark's experience is doubled now!  Cheesy
  
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Re: St. Maarten Approach
Reply #33 - Oct 5th, 2011 at 2:41am
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Mark, that leads me to the question if you ever landed backwards.

Yes I have. But only slowly, no faster than -5 knots. If I am going backwards too fast, I crash. Strangely enough, I think it is because the planes are not supposed to land backwards! Shocked

  

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Reply #34 - Oct 5th, 2011 at 2:57am
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Well, a B-52 could land backwards pretty well, its don't got a nose wheel! Skiing backwards is a challenge enough, why try to do it in a plane, and land???
  

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Reply #35 - Oct 5th, 2011 at 2:57am
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I think it is because the planes are not supposed to land backwards!

Which would be shocking news. Stay sharp!  Tongue I'm ringing the NTSB in the meantime.

'Hello, NTSB?'
'Yeah, I got a guy here trying to land the things backwards, no kidding!'

'Ok, I'll keep him busy, thanks.'
  
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Reply #36 - Oct 5th, 2011 at 4:25am
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Having read a book by an air traffic controller, that conversation isn't too far away from what happens in reality.
  

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Reply #37 - Oct 5th, 2011 at 8:17am
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I wonder what comes next. We saw the 737 going up to the ISS, we had pilots preferring tailwinds for their takeoffs and now we see Mark going for backwards landings.
Every spambot out there envy us!  Cheesy

Boeing247, you still haven't told us how the St. Maarten approach went.  Wink That silence raises the deepest fears.  Shocked
  
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