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Re: St. Maarten Approach
Reply #15 - Oct 3rd, 2011 at 3:35pm
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The same thing with EGLL! I bought it from a company (Aero-you know what) And the active runway is always 09L or R, and i was there this july, 2 years before that, and two years before that, and every time, they were taking off and landing on 27L and 27R! How do I change the active to the 27's?
  

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Reply #16 - Oct 4th, 2011 at 12:16am
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The active rw should be the thing where the AI planes take off and land. They choose their stuff depending on the winds.
As a test, load your plane at EGLL, set the weather manually and watch the guys changing the active runway. If this doesn't work, something else may be wrong.

Current METAR 2011/10/03 23:50 EGLL 032350Z 25009KT 9999 BKN011 17/14 Q1019.
So if you would use rw weather right now, you should see rw27 operations in the sim unless they aim for 8 kts of tailwind on the 09 ones, which I doubt.

There would be a way of limiting the departures and arrivals to certain runways in FSX, but I don't think that the scenery you spoke of has those limits implemented. This wouldn't make sense.
The real Heathrow has a sort of rotation in place, so they actually use some runways even with tailwind components up to a certain level (I would have to look up the values though) for noise abatement reasons and stuff.
  
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Reply #17 - Oct 4th, 2011 at 12:38am
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Active runway is based off wind directions, not a normally used runway. If FSX weather sets wind at a heading of 360, then you'll be using runway 180. See, wind conditions at LAX are usually in favor of runways 25 or 24, although they're in the wrong direction for many things, except Asia and hawaii. However, if you set FSX weather to 250 degrees, it'll put you on runway 7 or 6 because thats favorable to the conditions, although its not what's commonly used. another company makes they're stuff right, so trust them.
  

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Reply #18 - Oct 4th, 2011 at 12:39am
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The thing that I dislike about Orbx YMML AU is using the crosswind capability when the wind is calm, ALL runways are in use so you and the AI aircraft takeoff from the nearest one and, if landing there, you can approach straight in from any direction. This makes the ATIS message huge when it means ALL ILS approaches as well as visual. It even seems to mention runways that I can't even find there! It's crazy. Cheesy Grin

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Reply #19 - Oct 4th, 2011 at 12:46am
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701151 wrote on Oct 4th, 2011 at 12:38am:
If FSX weather sets wind at a heading of 360, then you'll be using runway 180.
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Wind direction: where the wind is coming from.
Runway heading: where the runway points to.

Wind from 360 means use runway 36, unless you want to have tailwind.  Smiley

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if you set FSX weather to 250 degrees, it'll put you on runway 7 or 6 because thats favorable to the conditions

Taking off with tailwind is favourable?  Shocked
It's possible, up to a certain level (manufacturer and/or airline ops limit), but the favourable way is to have a headwind for takeoff and landing.


Mark, I think there's a way to alter the Orbx YMML runway assignment. They have included a crosswind and a "normal" file, if my mind doesn't trick me.
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There it is, first item.
  
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Reply #20 - Oct 4th, 2011 at 3:56am
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Poor Peter's computer crashed an his iPad's touchscreen keyboard is inhibitive, because my 'Apple magic keyboard' isn't being magical...
  

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Reply #21 - Oct 4th, 2011 at 4:57am
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701151 wrote on Oct 4th, 2011 at 12:38am:
Active runway is based off wind directions, not a normally used runway. If FSX weather sets wind at a heading of 360, then you'll be using runway 180. See, wind conditions at LAX are usually in favor of runways 25 or 24, although they're in the wrong direction for many things, except Asia and hawaii. However, if you set FSX weather to 250 degrees, it'll put you on runway 7 or 6 because thats favorable to the conditions, although its not what's commonly used. another company makes they're stuff right, so trust them.


Though all LAX flights leave depart over the ocean. I always fly out of there, and every flight has departed west over the ocean, regardless of the destination.
  

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Reply #22 - Oct 4th, 2011 at 12:13pm
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There is a slight chance that Peter is in the "mix up mode" when it comes to runway headings, wind directions and favourable departure routes.

The KLAX departures offer procedures for every runway direction of course, but the noise preferred departure routes are over the ocean, for obvious reasons. So westbound departures are indeed common practice as far as I can see.
If the tailwind component goes above 10 kts, they seem to switch their westbound preference though. Again, obvious reasons.
The planned destination in regard to the departure direction should only matter in the very short route regime, e. g. on the TEC routes.

However, how did your St. Maarten approach work out, boeing247?  Smiley Shocked tourists or some which enjoyed the show?
  
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Reply #23 - Oct 4th, 2011 at 12:33pm
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boeing247 wrote on Oct 4th, 2011 at 4:57am:
701151 wrote on Oct 4th, 2011 at 12:38am:
Active runway is based off wind directions, not a normally used runway. If FSX weather sets wind at a heading of 360, then you'll be using runway 180. See, wind conditions at LAX are usually in favor of runways 25 or 24, although they're in the wrong direction for many things, except Asia and hawaii. However, if you set FSX weather to 250 degrees, it'll put you on runway 7 or 6 because thats favorable to the conditions, although its not what's commonly used. another company makes they're stuff right, so trust them.


Though all LAX flights leave depart over the ocean. I always fly out of there, and every flight has departed west over the ocean, regardless of the destination.


Although that is correct, that is because 95% of the time, winds are favorable to use 25L, 25R, 24L, or 24R. I've taken off from 7L once, during the Santa Ana winds season.
  

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Reply #24 - Oct 4th, 2011 at 12:56pm
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CoolP wrote on Oct 4th, 2011 at 12:46am:
Mark, I think there's a way to alter the Orbx YMML runway assignment. They have included a crosswind and a "normal" file, if my mind doesn't trick me.
Edited.
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/9976/32271481.jpg
There it is, first item.

For the sake of improving framerates I have played with the settings and so I have turned that OFF sometimes. Especially when the wind is calm. Wink
I really should have said "The thing that I dislike about Orbx YMML AU is that when using the crosswind capability and the wind is calm, ALL runways are in use so you and the AI aircraft takeoff from the nearest one and, if landing there, you can approach straight in from any direction."
Just another simple misunderstanding. Grin

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Reply #25 - Oct 4th, 2011 at 2:18pm
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If the wind is calm, you can't land.  Grin
  
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Reply #26 - Oct 4th, 2011 at 2:21pm
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CoolP wrote on Oct 4th, 2011 at 2:18pm:
If the wind is calm, you can't land.  Grin

If I'm flying an ultralight, I do not need to be flying around in a thunderstorm! So I don't always use ASE weather! Tongue
  

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Reply #27 - Oct 4th, 2011 at 2:33pm
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By the way, have you tried that thing (again) we once spoke of?
Taking off with the J3 in winds where you would literally stay above the runway all the time?

I still have to test that again. Will pick some OZ field for this.
  
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Reply #28 - Oct 4th, 2011 at 2:57pm
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CoolP wrote on Oct 4th, 2011 at 2:33pm:
By the way, have you tried that thing (again) we once spoke of?
Taking off with the J3 in winds where you would literally stay above the runway all the time?

I still have to test that again. Will pick some OZ field for this.
No. I only did it that one time and the J3 was like a chopper. It went up vertically and I flew at the same speed as the wind (~45 knots) so it was like I was hovering and when landed, I went straight down, sometimes slightly backwards, until I landed. I "hovered" for about five minutes! Cheesy
  

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Reply #29 - Oct 4th, 2011 at 3:05pm
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Man, I have to try that. Sounds like fun.  Cheesy
I may also set up some 145 kts wind for the bigger planes then.  Cool
  
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