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Re: 767 vs 757
Reply #15 - Jul 26th, 2011 at 7:48pm
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Oh, right. I forgot about that. I should probably turn off the cabin, but I would never do it. I love virtual cabins (don't ask me why, I just do. Maybe it's because when I'm bored during a long flight, I walk around it), so I never disable them...

...and then I complain about my FPS!  Cheesy
  

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Reply #16 - Jul 27th, 2011 at 1:03am
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I'm the same way. Flip from window to window. I think Lou has the right idea. He starts long flights right around bed time, get the plane airborne on AP. Then he goes to bed, wakes up the next morning, eats breakfast and starts the decent.  Makes sense to me.
  
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Reply #17 - Jul 27th, 2011 at 1:26am
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Seriously, this sounds like mother nature's nightmare to me.
Each to their own of course, but please be aware that 'energy costs' has at least two meanings, a financial and an ecological one.

So if the thing doesn't fold proteins over night or something, the ecological aspect will thank you if you e.g. use time compression, save, turn off and continue later, with you actually sitting in front of your hobby.  Smiley
Hobbies are important, so nobody speaks of leaving them for the sake of energy saving, but with the compression working and also the panel state save (works well on the 767), you won't miss a thing.
I'm also flying online in this config if the skies a rarely populated and/or ATC allows.

FSX capable systems aren't energy savers, expect some 250+ watts on an i7 + GTX4xx config, without the screen turned on!. FSX running doesn't mean that the components idle or get anywhere close to power safe states.
8 hours of sleep give you some 2 kilowatt-hours each day you do this. Three times a week and/or longer sleeps easily sum up 'nicely' just for the sake of not saving a flight.
  
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Reply #18 - Jul 27th, 2011 at 2:01am
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I don't do long flights myself, never more than an hour or so. But if I did, I would use time compression. For the reasons you mentioned and the fact I would get a bit restless.
  
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Reply #19 - Jul 27th, 2011 at 2:38am
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Glad to read this, Brian. And of course, you took it just the right way, as a reminder, not as some 'OMG, don't do this!' text.

I found the CS planes to be sensible with time compression from 'time to time'  Cheesy, but they don't officially support this though. But 2x always works, 4x often and 8x is a bit touchy then.
Panel state save on the 767 is a no-brainer, works fine for example. 727, from reports, not though.
  
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Reply #20 - Jul 27th, 2011 at 4:14am
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I've only use time compression with FS9 using the Legendary 707 and 727. I'll give it a whirl with the 767 once I get the FMC figured out and can get it in the air. Thanks for the info.
  
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Reply #21 - Jul 27th, 2011 at 5:05am
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BrianG wrote on Jul 27th, 2011 at 1:03am:
I'm the same way. Flip from window to window. I think Lou has the right idea. He starts long flights right around bed time, get the plane airborne on AP. Then he goes to bed, wakes up the next morning, eats breakfast and starts the decent.  Makes sense to me.


How do you do step climbs when you are asleep?

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Reply #22 - Jul 27th, 2011 at 1:52pm
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DAL191 wrote on Jul 27th, 2011 at 5:05am:
How do you do step climbs when you are asleep?

Michael Cubine

The MD-11 does step climbs on its own, so I sometimes go to sleep during a long haul flight with it. The Boeing FMC doesn't have that capability. Unfortunately. So I have to stay awake for my long haul flights. Sad
  

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Reply #23 - Jul 27th, 2011 at 5:25pm
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Markoz wrote on Jul 27th, 2011 at 1:52pm:
So I have to stay awake for my long haul flights. Sad

I will forward this to Boeing, Mark. I think I saw some rw Captains complaining there too.  Grin
  
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Reply #24 - Jul 27th, 2011 at 7:31pm
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Markoz wrote on Jul 27th, 2011 at 1:52pm:
DAL191 wrote on Jul 27th, 2011 at 5:05am:
How do you do step climbs when you are asleep?

Michael Cubine

The MD-11 does step climbs on its own, so I sometimes go to sleep during a long haul flight with it. The Boeing FMC doesn't have that capability. Unfortunately. So I have to stay awake for my long haul flights. Sad


Mark

Sleep is why I use the MD-11 for flights over 7 hours long.

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Reply #25 - Jul 27th, 2011 at 8:05pm
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Do you guys not use ATC (I at least know what Mark thinks about that feature!)? I have to be constantly watching the screen in case ATC wants me to tune another frequency or something. If you don't acknowledge, they terminate you route. Tough crowd.  Cheesy
  

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Reply #26 - Jul 27th, 2011 at 8:24pm
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Use online ATC, maybe they are doing the same thing.  Cheesy


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Reply #27 - Jul 27th, 2011 at 10:16pm
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BrianG wrote on Jul 27th, 2011 at 1:03am:
I'm the same way. Flip from window to window. I think Lou has the right idea. He starts long flights right around bed time, get the plane airborne on AP. Then he goes to bed, wakes up the next morning, eats breakfast and starts the decent.  Makes sense to me.


boeing247 wrote: Do you guys not use ATC (I at least know what Mark thinks about that feature!)? I have to be constantly watching the screen in case ATC wants me to tune another frequency or something. If you don't acknowledge, they terminate you route. Tough crowd.

But don't make sense to me. Since I read a LOU post in another topic, I have the same doubt. How do you guys deal with ATC messages if you are flying (and sleeping !!!) during a IFR long haul flight? I think the better way when you are tired is to save the game, go to the bed to sleep, and restart it when you can. I usually do it without any kind of problem. But before restarting a B-767/757 saved flight [FLY NOW!]  and don't lose some flight data,e.g. payload, I go to [FREE FLIGHT > CURRENT AIRCRAFT > 1 CHANGE...] , and I change the flight number. It works fine for me. No flight data will be lost.
  

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Reply #28 - Jul 28th, 2011 at 3:21am
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I tend to load the rough location (=any enroute airport) of my saving spot, form the free flight screen and with the default trike.
Once the flight is ready, I go to the menu and load the saved one.
Works fine on all my addon planes while the direct (saved flight) loading from the free flight screen sometimes struggles, maybe in the way Pinatubo describes.
  
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Reply #29 - Jul 28th, 2011 at 4:50am
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boeing247 wrote on Jul 27th, 2011 at 8:05pm:
Do you guys not use ATC (I at least know what Mark thinks about that feature!)? I have to be constantly watching the screen in case ATC wants me to tune another frequency or something. If you don't acknowledge, they terminate you route. Tough crowd.  Cheesy


boeing247

I don't use any ATC. I am my own controller. FSX ATC is a joke and I don't like the computer generated transmissions in RadarContact2. Plus it is just another addon with the possiblities of createing more problems.

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