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Reply #315 - Jul 20th, 2011 at 8:29am
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I think that one big task nowadays is to call the right 'Mr. Fix' then. You even have extra guys for the chairs in the business class, another one for the inflight entertainment, then there's the software fellow and so on.

Hey, Lou, I've got this small but cool clip in the Orbx forums lately, referring to the 'nothing can go wrong,wrong,wrong,wrong'.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYvyiruWzYo
  
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Reply #316 - Jul 27th, 2011 at 1:39am
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A-380 gets a scrape.

July 22nd A380 scrapes engine during landing at Narita

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Reply #317 - Jul 27th, 2011 at 1:59am
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Ouch! Narita is no good place to land it seems. That MD-11 is still remembered here.
What do you say, Lou? FO leg, heavy (gusty) winds, both? The (landing) bank angles on the big planes are far away from 'plenty of space' if I read those FCOMs correctly.
Mr. Airbus is in direct law there, so no auto-compensate or something, you can scratch it like any other liner, as seen.  Grin

By the way, just another occasion of pointing at the somehow too easy weather implementation in the sim.
I can't remember scratching any of my planes like this. And this comes from a lousy pilot by all means, so there would have been more than one chance.  Cheesy

And .. Korean Air colours don't make the A380 look better.
  
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Reply #318 - Jul 27th, 2011 at 2:05am
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Ah, more A380 fun! What was it this time?  Cool
  

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Reply #319 - Jul 27th, 2011 at 8:18pm
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boeing247 wrote on Jul 27th, 2011 at 2:05am:
Ah, more A380 fun! What was it this time?  Cool

Cheesy Lou evolved to a plane spotter.  Tongue
  
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Reply #320 - Jul 27th, 2011 at 8:18pm
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I did not send this out because it was an Airbus. Shocked

Any plane in commercial aviation could have had the same thing happen. This would be very easy to do in the 747 since the pod engines are pretty low. The 727 was also a plane you had to watch on landing since the leading edge devices were vulnerable on landing. The 767,757 is one that this kind of thing would be pretty hard to do on landing since the wings and engines are higher.

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Reply #321 - Jul 27th, 2011 at 8:21pm
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Yeah, I know. There has just been a lot of A380 mishaps in the news lately.
  

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Reply #322 - Jul 27th, 2011 at 8:47pm
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boeing247,

You would think this A-380 is the senior plane of every airline and that the pilots flying it would be EXTRA careful since it such a high profile. This, however appears to be not the case! Huh

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Reply #323 - Jul 27th, 2011 at 9:01pm
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Lou, even a 747 still is 'senior' at most airlines and they also scratch, brake or smash it.
Please be aware that media perception does not necessarily equal the real world, sometimes intentionally (greetings to Mr. Murdoch), sometimes just because big/new/competitive things cause more eyes to follow them as small ones.

Some incidents therefore gain more attention than others, regardless of their dangerous/not dangerous nature or even the amount of them.
But I'm ok with this video, in case you ask. I'm just wondering what could lead to such things.

As bad as it looks, I think the actual damage isn't too severe as the 'low bank angle clearance' constructions are designed with their weak spots in mind, same goes for e. g. tail strike stuff if not performed in an excessive manner.
  
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Reply #324 - Jul 27th, 2011 at 10:23pm
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I still maintain that the A380 pilots are Boeing employees!  Cheesy
  

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Reply #325 - Jul 27th, 2011 at 10:29pm
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I'll have to go along with boeing247.  Shocked

CoolP, since this monster of a plane is such a big deal to Airbus that is why it is getting soooo much attention, miscreant Murdoch not withstanding.  Tongue
  

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Reply #326 - Jul 28th, 2011 at 2:29am
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LOU wrote on Jul 27th, 2011 at 10:29pm:
CoolP, since this monster of a plane is such a big deal to Airbus that is why it is getting soooo much attention, miscreant Murdoch not withstanding.  Tongue

Well, Lou, in this thread, you are the Mr. Murdoch, posting the news to mention.  Tongue
The other ones don't mention the A380 that much. See for yourself. http://www.aviationnews.net/index.html?do=headlines
But as I've said, I'm not in trouble with that focus, though I'm able to detect it.  Smiley

Google News gave me some of this when looking for A380 'Singapore A380 engine fails, forced to return' and 'Two die as Boeing 747 cargo jet crashes off South Korea' for the 747.
Which one should be mentioned? Voilŕ, welcome to the chief editor's world, forming up the image of the paper.

There's another article, 'New A380 doesn’t meet expectations' which, from the headline, surely will attract some fellows.
But when reading on, you mainly read about the large amount of business class seats in the Korean Air’s A380 and their focus on those tickets, while they now had to see that the market asks for more economy seats/tickets/prices.
So, when reading on, the view totally differs and goes away from a plane problem over to a planning one. Also, knowing about the Japanese Korean Air ban from former articles, some sales influences are to be expected, affecting the whole fleet and the numbers.
Media perception, a field of science.  Cheesy

For all that media stuff (and maybe some other things), you could open a thread for CoolP's stories, but that's not what I or anyone else around want to read here, I'm interested in yours, Lou.
And I think the same goes for the other guys around since those 40 years offer a vast amount of knowledge and I actually like the 'I remember that approach at KJFK ..' beginnings.
  
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Reply #327 - Jul 28th, 2011 at 4:07am
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The A380 is too big for the airports they certified it for (most). My dad was at Charles de Gualle last week, and he was in the 767-300ER when the tower cleared the A380 to go ahead of them. He said the wings were going over the runway threshold line, even when taxiing left of the centerline. It would have hit my dad's plane if he had bee 15 ft farther back.
  

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Reply #328 - Jul 28th, 2011 at 4:36am
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701151 wrote on Jul 28th, 2011 at 4:07am:
The A380 is too big for the airports they certified it for (most). My dad was at Charles de Gualle last week

Ah, I forgot to mention some reliable source of information there. Thanks for pointing that out, Peter.  Roll Eyes
It's de Gaulle by the way, a rewarded soldier in France and later president for a decade.
  
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Reply #329 - Jul 28th, 2011 at 4:43am
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CoolP, I realize we shouldn't skew the news towards against the A380, but you're skewing it against the 747 by saying worse things happen to it.

Look at the headlines: the A380 one deals with an engine failure--that's a problem with the plane (though, you could probably blame the engine manufacturer), whereas the 747 crash deals with what was likely pilot error.

Now, in all fairness (because you have a point), I'm not saying Boeing aircraft are amazing, and I'm certainly not saying that Airbus aircraft are horrible. I actually like Airbus... well, I like the planes, I'm not to fond of the company. I'll be the first to admit that the 707 had the same problems as the A380, maybe more so because it was a big jet aircraft landing on prop runways.

I mainly don't like the A380 because it was made as a "wow" plane. It puts people in awe of it. Boeing was originally going to make the 747 a double-decker, but they did not because it was unnecessary. In today's world, it is more useful, and within the next decade or two, I'm sure Boeing will at least have plans for a double-decker jetliner. Anyways, back to the A380 wowing people. As I write this, there are currently 244 Boeing 777-200 jetliners flying (more than any other aircraft, although usually the A321 is number one, which I'll get to in a bit). There are 21 A380s flying. But if I saw one of them coming in to land at LAX, which is nearby my house, I'm going to point out the A380 to somebody, whereas I'll barely notice the Triple 7.

Now, about the A321. That is a great jetliner. As far as I know it has a great track record, and as I said earlier, there are usually more of it in the sky than any other plane (I'm getting that statistic from Flight Aware, by the way). I think it's just as good as Boeing planes. But if you see one coming in for a landing, you don't say "Wow! Look at that A321! It's such a cool plane!" Also, if I'm not mistaken (though I may be), I believe it was the plane that got Airbus all those orders at Le Bourget this year. That should be the flagship of the Airbus fleet, not the A321. Boeing is guilty of this too, though not to the same extent, as they make the 747 their flagship. However, there are usually more 777s flying around at any given moment.

I just want to say that this is not a dis on Airbus, nor am I glorifying Boeing. They're both great companies (and they both have plenty of flaws, faults, and weaknesses), and I wish the comparison was between something other than the A380 and the 747. We shouldn't be fiercely defending one or the other like college sports teams. And of course, I'm not trying to insult or discredit CoolP. He does have a point, and he often has good insights like this.  Smiley
  

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