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Reply #300 - Jul 11th, 2011 at 3:19am
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Lou, have you ever had serious problems with a first officer, that caused you to avoid him because of the tension they cause in the cockpit?
  

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Reply #301 - Jul 11th, 2011 at 2:10pm
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Peter,

There is always a chance that two people might not like each other, but in my experience as a captain, all of the pilots I worked with were very professional in their cockpit duties. Sure, there were some pilots I related to better than others, but all of us had the same goal in mind. Get the job done. 

One of the best quotes of a salty old captain I used to fly with is: "Don't make a fun job hard."

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Reply #302 - Jul 12th, 2011 at 5:21am
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Lou, Mexico City International MMMX in the summer and a takeoff with the loaded 707. What comes to your mind except for high EPR readings?

I'm doing those locations around Mexico and some more southern countries right now and I can tell you that e. g. the sim Tegucigalpa MHTG gave me headaches while training 'on the job' for the RNAV rw02. Didn't try with the 707 there though.
This stuff is serious fun when using some addon scenery.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36g83GkG1eU
  
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Reply #303 - Jul 12th, 2011 at 2:09pm
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CoolP, get out your E6B and check density altitude.  Shocked

You might have to really limit the load.

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Reply #304 - Jul 12th, 2011 at 2:23pm
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Poor Copilots get no respect! Shocked



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Reply #305 - Jul 12th, 2011 at 4:14pm
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ROFL !!  You think he noticed that on the walk around?   Grin
  

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Reply #306 - Jul 13th, 2011 at 1:11am
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Those graffiti artists are everywhere.  Grin
That Star Alliance symbol is disgusting.  Tongue

Lou, you are right, I had a hard time at Mexico and later cheated with going to a very early morning.
But me is a MHTG expert now (not with the 707 though)  Cheesy

Denver is another spot for hot&high, huh? I only saw some 'Denver bump' procedures so far, still have to fly those.
  
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Reply #307 - Jul 14th, 2011 at 3:13pm
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Reply #308 - Jul 14th, 2011 at 8:25pm
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BUMMER!  Cry
  

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Reply #309 - Jul 19th, 2011 at 12:22am
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So Lou, my family friend flew for United, and is about your age, he flew the DC-8, 747, 777, 727...I think Caravelle, I'm not sure. But anyways, with United, he was the flight engineer on a DC-6, where you an FE on the ol' TWA Connies or other propliners before you got to jets? My Dad flew DC-3s before Delta, and his friend was the FE in a DC-4 in Canada before Delta, how 'bout you?
  

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Reply #310 - Jul 19th, 2011 at 2:12am
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Peter,

I arrived at TWA a few months after the last Connie was grounded. I would have loved to have flown the Connie, but that was not to be. I spent many hours at KLGA as a kid, watching the planes takeoff and land.



Here is a picture of me and a few friends in the 50's, looking at the planes from the observation deck. I'm the one on the left. Notice the Martin 404 taking off. Where we were standing is not the place to be when the Connie was started. You would have been covered with oil from the engines.

I'm sure your Dad has fond memories of the DC-3 that was real flying. I still think the DC-6B would be a great plane for the folks at CS to model. When I started with TWA the main base was in Kansas City, Mo. The training center was cool old building in the downtown area. I was just out of college so going back to school was easy. The Flight Engineer course was very complete. We were taught by old time F/E's who knew the plane rivet by rivet. Today, the schools are different and the level of detail you learn about the plane is very basic. I really enjoyed learning all about the systems and the way they worked and why. The course was five months long back in the early days, now it's just a few weeks and out the door.

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Reply #311 - Jul 19th, 2011 at 2:16am
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LOU wrote on Jul 19th, 2011 at 2:12am:
The course was five months long back in the early days, now it's just a few weeks and out the door.

This worries me Lou! You make it sound like they don't learn enough about the aircraft these days. Shocked
  

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Reply #312 - Jul 19th, 2011 at 3:29am
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Lou- quick question: Why is it that there were so many different shapes (some very odd, indeed) for the old propliners--no two looked very similar, whereas most of today's jetliners look more or less the same?
  

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Reply #313 - Jul 19th, 2011 at 7:47am
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Markoz wrote on Jul 19th, 2011 at 2:16am:
LOU wrote on Jul 19th, 2011 at 2:12am:
The course was five months long back in the early days, now it's just a few weeks and out the door.

This worries me Lou! You make it sound like they don't learn enough about the aircraft these days. Shocked

Don't worry, Mark, they are first of all more complex now. Even the FCMO docs represent that. The full thing B707 has a few hundred pages, the newer ones easily go up to 5000 or so.
You have more systems, more details, more applied science.
And also, look how complicated and optimized the surrounding of all plane operations has become. The somehow romantic tendencies are gone and the management and logistics dictate a very tight schedule, stressing the need for new skills too, way off any technical basis. The whole crew management thingy is just one there.

And the other part in training personnel are of course costs. With airlines looking for pilots to be certified within the shortest amount of time, they also stress all regulations to be as close to the 'only as much as he needs, not more' point as can be.
Money business, not safety business. The governmental regulations hold back this trend as best as they can of course, but they aren't free of influences at all.

But I'd say that modern simulators (not FSX, the big things) helped a lot in pilots education when compared to the older times.
On the very first years of commercial flying, the pilots were not only pilots but also the engineers or at least very proficient co-workers there. This nowadays is hard to achieve in a normal educational cycle.
So while you would of course learn up to date things as a new pilot now, it would also be as reduced as can be to allow a fast progress.
Luckily, they still ask the question 'do we have to improve training?' after some incidents happened.

Look at other parts of the business world and how e. g. academic backgrounds got reduced to the very focus of a part of science, to "allow" a fast migration into the productive regime. This did not happen intentionally from the student's side, but of course came from the industry, asking for fresh blood, fast.  Shocked

So it may happen that this new Bachelor is an expert at one part of that science he has been taught about, but doesn't even know about the existence of other 'hot spots'.
  
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Reply #314 - Jul 19th, 2011 at 8:51pm
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Mark, CoolP is right again.

The requirements - today - for a pilot because of competition are a lot higher. Most airlines flying big jets hire from commuter pilots that already have most of the ratings, so it is more of a transition instead of ground up course.  Even while I was instructing back in the 70's there was a different emphasis on pilot training. No more nuts & bolts training. (we were trained by professional Flight Engineers - they made sure we knwe every part of the plane) The new planes don't have a F/E and the systems are more automated. Today on the 777 the engine start is fully automated. If it does not start the first time, the computer tries again. If that is no good, then you call Mr. Fix-it to do his thing. Everything is more and more automated - nothing can go wrong,wrong,wrong,wrong............ Shocked

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