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Ebodee Full Member Offline Posts: 67 Joined: Mar 2^nd, 2010	...come on flare, flare ... Mar 30^th, 2010 at 9:08pm	Print Post
	The 757 (FSX) flared beautifully in autoland yesterday into the same runway and same airport, Los Angeles runway 25L. But today, after a beautiful flight as Delat 438 Heavy nonstop from Atlanta to Los Angeles conneced to VATSIM, crazy traffic in LA, PSS continental (spoke with pilot) out ahead of me on approach and no flare ... smack into the runway and the 767 will be down for maintainance for weeks. I know it must work although I have owned the 767 for not very long I know it can but why did it not?


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FTMLenny Full Member Offline Posts: 139 Joined: Nov 6^th, 2009	Autoland Reply #1 - May 10^th, 2010 at 4:46pm	Print Post
	is there anychance of the autoland being corrected. the aircraft does not flare i apologize if this has been said before. Cheers Dylan Leonard


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StickMan Full Member Offline Posts: 16 Joined: Jul 23^rd, 2009	Re: ...come on flare, flare ... Reply #2 - May 12^th, 2010 at 10:19am	Print Post
	Only thing I can think of is it sounds like maybe you guys are not setting the altimeter right and therefor the plane doesn't know when to flare. Just a guess, not watching what your doing, but I never seen this happen with altimeter set right. Are all the GPWS callouts right as you are approaching runway? Again just a guess. Cheer -Stick


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Tim Capps Senior Member Offline Defense Lawyer & US Navy JAG (ret), Writer Posts: 1070 Location: Southern Illinois Joined: May 21^st, 2009	Re: ...come on flare, flare ... Reply #3 - Jun 7^th, 2010 at 10:42pm	Print Post
	Are you nailing your VREF speed? I find that makes a difference.

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ChinookGuy Full Member Offline How does this work again? Posts: 12 Location: Detroit Michigan Joined: Jul 1^st, 2010 Gender:	Re: ...come on flare, flare ... Reply #4 - Jul 10^th, 2010 at 5:54pm	Print Post
	After setting your altimeter to the correct setting have you set the decision height in the EFIS? Just a thought

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ESG Full Member Offline Posts: 36 Location: Eartha Joined: Jan 15^th, 2008	Re: ...come on flare, flare ... Reply #5 - Aug 9^th, 2010 at 6:18pm	Print Post
	Tim Capps wrote on Jun 7^th, 2010 at 10:42pm: Are you nailing your VREF speed? �I find that makes a difference. +1, very important to be on speed.


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Morten Full Member Offline Posts: 162 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Joined: Aug 5^th, 2010 Gender:	No flare during autoland - what's going on?? Reply #6 - Sep 14^th, 2010 at 10:30am	Print Post
	Everything is set correctly and professionally for an ILS CAT III Approach as with a another company 767 model - but this CS 767 simply won't flare out correctly as it is suppose to - IAS 167 and flaps 25 and the CS �lands with it's nose wheel first! - what is this??? � � �

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AABoeing Full Member Offline Posts: 219 Location: Texas Joined: Oct 9^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: No flare during autoland - what's going on?? Reply #7 - Sep 14^th, 2010 at 12:47pm	Print Post
	In CAT II or III (A,B,C) conditions you should have flaps at 30 and airspeed at around 145-135 depending on wieght on short final. You must set everything perfectly, and sometimes you must interfere with the autopilot, and set DH to 50 even though there are no minimums. 167 sounds too fast on short final, not even the A380 or 747 has that high of speed on final. As long as you aren't at MLW. The procedures should be in the manual, but sometimes it does flare, but if you are decending at -1000ft/m or so at 100ft you MUST pull back on the yoke, joystick, ect... Because chances are, it won't Flare. I'm not sure if CS have been looking into this, but sometimes it will, but you must be AT your VREF speed. That is all I can say now.

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Morten Full Member Offline Posts: 162 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Joined: Aug 5^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: No flare during autoland - what's going on?? Reply #8 - Sep 15^th, 2010 at 3:50am	Print Post
	Okay, actually the range lies between 140-145 KIAS with 767. Anyway this crab wont even flare out at 135 KIAS! It's way out, if you are suppose to PULL back the yoke on an Autoland - In the real world and in well functioning sims you actually have to slightly PUSH the yoke in order to get the nose wheel the last bit down to the runway! This issue is absolutely essential and can't figure out why CS just neglects this. The model is indeed eyecandy all the way through - but what's the point if you can't land this thing properly?

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