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The Trim issue..again
Sep 16th, 2010 at 10:45am
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Any news regarding to a proper trim for Takeoff?
I'm getting randomly stabilizer alerts forcing me to abort takeoff!!
  

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Re: The Trim issue..again
Reply #1 - Sep 16th, 2010 at 11:14am
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I leave mine set at 0 (zero) according to the mouse over Cockpit Tooltip on the trim control knob. Sometimes I might actually lower it to about -0.3 but rarely any lower. I never go above 0 or my 767 climbs very steeply, even with it at near MTOW.

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Re: The Trim issue..again
Reply #2 - Sep 16th, 2010 at 6:35pm
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Thanks Mark, for being here with all your tips Wink

But how about the CDU Takeoff C/G settings then, what will you (generally) write here?
If you write something in here, will you then just ignore the calculated trim suggestion here, or what?  
  

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Re: The Trim issue..again
Reply #3 - Sep 16th, 2010 at 6:54pm
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If you use FsPassenger. You can use their  C/G settings.  I utilize TOPCAT . It works well.
  
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Re: The Trim issue..again
Reply #4 - Sep 16th, 2010 at 11:06pm
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Anywhere from 22 to 39 have been suggested.  The CG is messed up.  Try 25 and see if that works for you and go from there.
  

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Reply #5 - Sep 17th, 2010 at 1:38am
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Yes indeed, I know about Topcat and it will probably be my final choice after all (in spite of that silly name!). Because The calculation to reach a proper trim is in fact rather complex.

But for now, I'm just trying this CS model out, so I just need some raw, but somewhat, vice suggestions based on experience!  

Last time I flew BA B767 RR. A 2 hour flight, from Zürich to Rome with 110 passengers and a GRW of 255.4. I chose C/G 24% and grabbed the calculated CDU Trim suggestion of 2.85, which all resulted in Takeoff-abortion because of loud and insistent Stabilizer alarm!
The 24% was just something that I picked up from another thread - but obviously this most be a wrong value or at least based on some entirely different weight conditions!

     
  

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Re: The Trim issue..again
Reply #6 - Sep 17th, 2010 at 5:10am
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Like Mark wrote just use the trim between 0.0 and -0.3 per Tool Tips from moving the mouse over the trim levers. Nothing else is going to work. 0.0 maxed out GW and -0.3 for light GW. Period. It is what it is. End of thread.

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Re: The Trim issue..again
Reply #7 - Sep 17th, 2010 at 10:56am
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DAL191 wrote on Sep 17th, 2010 at 5:10am:
just use the trim between 0.0 and -0.3 per Tool Tips from moving the mouse over the trim levers. Nothing else is going to work. 0.0 maxed out GW and -0.3 for light GW.
Thanks for adding that bit of missing information Michael.

0.0 is my main setting because I do a lot of flights with the plane close to MTOW. Basically, I put in a full load of passenger, fill the fuel tanks and cargo takes up the rest of the weight until MTOW, then off I go to some distant destination. I do this more often with the 762 because it has a longer range! Wink

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Re: The Trim issue..again
Reply #8 - Sep 18th, 2010 at 3:00am
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OK, thanks - I'll give it a try!
  

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