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Caribflyer Senior Member Offline Posts: 410 Joined: Jun 24^th, 2010 Gender:	ISG 727 Retrofit Oct 10^th, 2013 at 3:00pm	Print Post
	Was wondering if anyone was able to add any ISG FMS or GNSS/GNS-XLS?

	Marlon Carter
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AirCanadaGuy Ex Member	Re: ISG 727 Retrofit Reply #1 - Oct 10^th, 2013 at 8:46pm	Print Post
	Hi Caribflyer, I have installed the ISG MCU and Smiths FMS unit. It only follows LNAV since there isn't an auto throttle system on the 727. You could also add a MFD if you want in the 2d panel. For traffic awareness I use the TCAS II freeware gauge that I made an earlier post on. Here is my panel modifications: [Window Titles] WindowXX=ISG1 MCU WindowXX=ISG1 SMITHS FMS [WindowXX] Background_color=0,0,0 size_mm=312,214 position=4 window_pos= 0.1541,0.3133 window_size=0.1888,0.2044 visible=0 ident=4001 gauge00=isg1!MCU, �0,0,312,214 [WindowXX] Background_color=0,0,0 size_mm=197,271 window_size_ratio=1.000 � visible=0 ident=4004 window_pos = 0.7402, 0.4122 window_size= 0.250, 0.500 gauge00=isg1!SMITHS_FMS, �0,0,140,271


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Markoz CS Team Offline Posts: 12368 Location: Victoria, Australia Joined: Apr 24^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: ISG 727 Retrofit Reply #2 - Oct 11^th, 2013 at 5:23am	Print Post
	Quote: It only follows LNAV since there isn't an auto throttle system on the 727. The Autothrottle is available in the 727. It is actually usable, but you need to ARM it first (the default Keyboard Command is CTRL+SHIFT+R). I modified mine (for testing purposes) so that I don't need to ARM the A/T first by editing the aircraft.cfg. Open the aircraft.cfg in Notepad, find the [autopilot] section, change autothrottle_arming_required=1 to autothrottle_arming_required=0, then you don't need to ARM the A/T. Pressing CTRL+R (default Keyboard Command for turning the A/T ON) sets the speed to that which the 727 is doing when you pres CTRL+R. The Speed Bug doesn't control the A/T, so unless you can use the ISG A/T to control the 727's speed, I guess it might be pointless using it. Pressing CTRL+R a second time turns the A/T OFF, so you can use the throttle controls to increase/decrease the speed, the press CRL+R again to reset it to the new speed. This is really cheating, but it sure could come in handy! NOTE: I don't use A/T in the 727 myself, so I'm just letting you know that it IS there and IS available for use.

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AirCanadaGuy Ex Member	Re: ISG 727 Retrofit Reply #3 - Oct 12^th, 2013 at 2:20am	Print Post
	Thanks Mark . Does it work with the ISG VNAV function? That is the next question. I will give it a try sometime.


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Markoz CS Team Offline Posts: 12368 Location: Victoria, Australia Joined: Apr 24^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: ISG 727 Retrofit Reply #4 - Oct 12^th, 2013 at 6:32am	Print Post
	Quote: Thanks Mark �. Does it work with the ISG VNAV function? That is the next question. I will give it a try sometime. It's no good asking me, I don't have ISG. I was just saying that because the autothrottle is available in the [autopilot] section of the aircraft.cfg file, it might work with ISG. This will depend on how ISG handle the A/T. It just might work.

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Caribflyer Senior Member Offline Posts: 410 Joined: Jun 24^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: ISG 727 Retrofit Reply #5 - Nov 3^rd, 2013 at 10:34pm	Print Post
	Do you need the LNAV button to activate the FMS route?

	Marlon Carter
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AirCanadaGuy Ex Member	Re: ISG 727 Retrofit Reply #6 - Nov 3^rd, 2013 at 10:46pm	Print Post
	There is an LNAV select ON/OFF key on the MCU. Make sure you have the heading select on before you activate the LNAV. ISG's LNAV system will give commands to the aircrafts heading select automatically.


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Sirxamoc Full Member Offline Posts: 42 Joined: Jun 8^th, 2012	Re: ISG 727 Retrofit Reply #7 - May 8^th, 2014 at 5:09pm	Print Post
	I installed the ISG into my 727 with no issues, what I wound up doing after the first install was to change it so that the MCU was sitting next to autopilot panel. Add a hot button on my yoke and when I press it I get the MCU/autopilot at the top right of my screen. The FMS I wound up replacing it with the Garmin. It flies perfect so now I can do RNAV SIDS/STARS. The only thing that I have to figure out is how to get the CDI to work with it, so that when I want to track the course by hand instead of autopilot the CDI is responsive to the FMS and then when shooting the ILS I can revert it back. I could probably add a switch that does NAV/GPS, unless I am missing something already there.


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Markoz CS Team Offline Posts: 12368 Location: Victoria, Australia Joined: Apr 24^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: ISG 727 Retrofit Reply #8 - May 9^th, 2014 at 2:21am	Print Post
	I added a NAV/GPS switch (Cessna!Nav_GPS_Annunciator and Cessna!Nav GPS Switch) to the 2D Autopilot Panel. Alternatively, you could assign a Keyboard Command to Nav 1/GPS (toggle). I assigned CTRL+SHIFT+N.

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Sirxamoc Full Member Offline Posts: 42 Joined: Jun 8^th, 2012	Re: ISG 727 Retrofit Reply #9 - May 9^th, 2014 at 2:09pm	Print Post
	Tried it last night, took my panel maker program and tried 3 or 4 different GPS/NAV switches. None had the desired effect I was looking for. I am trying to get the RMI/CDI to work in conjunction with the ISG FMS. So that if I switch to GPS the CDI responds in kind. But no worries, that is the fun of this!


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Sirxamoc Full Member Offline Posts: 42 Joined: Jun 8^th, 2012	Re: ISG 727 Retrofit Reply #10 - May 9^th, 2014 at 2:12pm	Print Post
	Did notice one added benefit with the ISG MCU. There is a button marked FL, I was at 12500 and it showed it, then below it had a space that I input a new altitude. I put in 14000 and pressed enter, the planes autopilot was on altitude hold, it climbed and leveled off at 14000. So not too bad of an unexpected gift!


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Markoz CS Team Offline Posts: 12368 Location: Victoria, Australia Joined: Apr 24^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: ISG 727 Retrofit Reply #11 - May 10^th, 2014 at 2:54am	Print Post
	With the 727 you can cheat with a climb anyway. I do this by pressing CTRL+SHIFT+Z then plus (+) or minus (-) - the keyboard shortcut for A/P Altitude bug (select). Of course I have to count each press of the plus or minus (not good if you press to quickly) to get an idea of the altitude I am setting it to, so I prefer to use that when I haven't clicked on the Altitude Hold button at the correct time so I am only 100 feet off (one press of plus or minus). You at least get to enter the actual altitude that you want it to hold/climb to and hold.

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