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tjh876 Full Member Offline Posts: 90 Location: New Jersey, USA Joined: Jul 10^th, 2011 Gender:	Last Free Update for the 757? Nov 3^rd, 2011 at 7:40pm	Print Post
	I just came across this, but is this update (4.6) the last free update for the 757? Or am I just misunderstanding this? If it is, does that mean that further development for the 757 is done? Or is there more to come? Thanks, Tom


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Markoz CS Team Offline Posts: 12445 Location: Victoria, Australia Joined: Apr 24^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Last Free Update for the 757? Reply #1 - Nov 4^th, 2011 at 12:58am	Print Post
	tjh876 wrote on Nov 3^rd, 2011 at 7:40pm: I just came across this, but is this update (4.6) the last free update for the 757? Or am I just misunderstanding this? If it is, does that mean that further development for the 757 is done? Or is there more to come? The 4.6 is the last free update of the 757 Captain. You didn't read it wrong. The term "last free update" makes me think that it might not be the end of the 757 just yet. But I could be wrong.

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mbucholski Full Member Offline Posts: 142 Location: Kolobrzeg, Poland Joined: Feb 20^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Last Free Update for the 757? Reply #2 - Nov 4^th, 2011 at 4:09pm	Print Post
	Maybe it meant to be 'latest'?


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mindyerbeak Full Member Offline Posts: 91 Joined: Jul 7^th, 2010	Re: Last Free Update for the 757? Reply #3 - Nov 4^th, 2011 at 5:53pm	Print Post
	Maybe they mean that it is the last "free update".After this maybe updates will be pay stuff ? I don't mind it really as long as this update works the way it should. Btw, I installed vs 4.6 and took it for a spin ekch-eddh and all seems ok so far.Fingers crossed !


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Captain Sim 2 CS Team Offline Posts: 5564 Joined: Nov 8^th, 2005	Re: Last Free Update for the 757? Reply #4 - Nov 4^th, 2011 at 8:07pm	Print Post
	Thank you for comments. We believe that 5 years of free updates is enough. However we will countinue development of the 757 family. Most likely the next 757 product is going to be the 757 Captain 5.0. Features list and pricing options TBA.

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LOU Beta Team Offline 727,707,747,757,767= 40years of Boeings Posts: 1611 Location: Central PA, USA Joined: Mar 3^rd, 2010 Gender:	Re: Last Free Update for the 757? Reply #5 - Nov 4^th, 2011 at 8:30pm	Print Post
	I am standing-by for Ver-5! As I have said many times before on this forum, I love all the Boeing planes, but the 757 was and is my all time favorite! � Best all around plane for any mission. Short flights, long flights, short fields, you name it the bird can do it, and make money too! � Lou

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gandy Senior Member Offline Posts: 266 Location: Near EGHH Joined: Mar 25^th, 2011	Re: Last Free Update for the 757? Reply #6 - Nov 5^th, 2011 at 9:33am	Print Post
	I cant wait for Ver 5 I think you have my support as well Lou on the 757 being the best, there is just something about it that i like above all others

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wims Full Member Offline Posts: 118 Joined: Jul 1^st, 2010	Re: Last Free Update for the 757? Reply #7 - Nov 5^th, 2011 at 1:47pm	Print Post
	You mean 5 years worth of updates is way way too much?


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Pinatubo Senior Member Offline Posts: 486 Location: Rio de Janeiro Brazil Joined: Apr 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Last Free Update for the 757? Reply #8 - Nov 5^th, 2011 at 2:23pm	Print Post
	LOU wrote on Nov 4^th, 2011 at 8:30pm: I am standing-by for Ver-5! ... Lou Yeah, me too.

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CoolP Senior Member Offline Posts: 2568 Joined: Jan 17^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Last Free Update for the 757? Reply #9 - Nov 5^th, 2011 at 9:06pm	Print Post
	I'm voting for V5, with Lou doing the callouts and checklists, although that may be FO stuff. At another dev, the crew sometimes suggests that I should do some more training on landings, so expect Lou's voice there. 'Son, do you really think that was a good one?'


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Boeingflyer Full Member Offline Posts: 32 Joined: Jul 14^th, 2011	Re: Last Free Update for the 757? Reply #10 - Nov 6^th, 2011 at 12:37am	Print Post
	OK, if that was the last free-update!? in future i will think twice befor i buy a CS produkt, or wait until it is flyable... Sry guys, but that is not correct in my eyes. OK 5 years of support is realy grea,t but this also includes that this aircraft wasn�t ready at all... All comming Versions are fixing something like a "hotfix" and hotfixes where never to buy, there are always free. Please, next time think twice befor release a "non ready" product and do a longer beta with maybe more beta testers, in my opinion! regards PS: CS will do a very good job, but all SP�s and fixes are only for supporting the costumers...

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CoolP Senior Member Offline Posts: 2568 Joined: Jan 17^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Last Free Update for the 757? Reply #11 - Nov 6^th, 2011 at 2:44am	Print Post
	While I think that some guys around 'overrev' a bit in their reactions, there's something true and reasonable in them. We may assume two categories of updates (regardless if being free or not). 1) the ones necessary to make the product work or to fix major bugs and flaws 2) the ones adding features and options We saw a mixture of those two categories on some service packs. E. g. 4.3 gave us Navigraph support, 4.4 added the weather radar and so on. But, you guys are correct, some parts of the updates always had to fix more or less vital things on the plane. With 4.5, a 4.6 was needed because 4.5 mixed up quite some systems and rendered the plane unusable at some ends. So that 4.5 to 4.6 update was needed and therefore clearly category 1 for example. So, even as a big fan of CS aircraft, I'd say it's a bit too easy to summarize all updates as the ones in category 2. I'm thankful for all the added features, some are noted above. But we shouldn't communicate clear cat 1 bugfixes as 'updates a customer has to be thankful for'. That would actually miss the point in my eyes.


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Markoz CS Team Offline Posts: 12445 Location: Victoria, Australia Joined: Apr 24^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Last Free Update for the 757? Reply #12 - Nov 6^th, 2011 at 12:32pm	Print Post
	The same thing can be said another devs Airbus. It is currently v1.x with another update (possibly the last) due around the same time that they will be releasing the more advanced Airbus v2. Obviously the changes made to v2 were enough for the devs to decide it would be a different product to the first one, and so will need to be bought by anyone wanting it. So if I want v2, I'm going to have to buy it. Then there's another devs 747 v1.5. It is not a free upgrade. Once again, the changes are enough to justify them selling it as a separate product, not giving it as a free upgrade. Once again, if I want this one too, I'll have to buy it. The same thing happened with my buying AU YMML v1. Free upgrades to v1.5. Then I had t buy AU YMML v2. Like it or not, we are going to have to live with devs decisions to do it that way. Or we just stop buying add-ons from that dev. So as you can see. It's not just Captain Sim doing it. Other devs are doing it too.

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rservice Beta Team Offline Posts: 373 Location: Canada Joined: Apr 17^th, 2006 Gender:	Re: Last Free Update for the 757? Reply #13 - Nov 6^th, 2011 at 12:49pm	Print Post
	I can think of another major developer,starts with M and ends in soft that NEVER fixes all bugs. They just issue a new version and end up eventually ending support for the older versions. What are they? Too big to fail!!!. So don't be hasty about criticising CS. Ron


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windycityflyer Full Member Offline Posts: 77 Joined: Apr 9^th, 2011	Re: Last Free Update for the 757? Reply #14 - Nov 6^th, 2011 at 2:58pm	Print Post
	CoolP wrote on Nov 6^th, 2011 at 2:44am: We may assume two categories of updates (regardless if being free or not). ....... 1) the ones necessary to make the product work or to fix major bugs and flaws 2) the ones adding features and options ....... I'm thankful for all the added features, some are noted above. But we shouldn't communicate clear cat 1 bugfixes as 'updates a customer has to be thankful for'. That would actually miss the point in my eyes. I agree w/ this above assessment. My main concern w/ this otherwise fine cs757 was that I couldn't take this 757 above 25k w/o encountering un-predictable (and now well-documented) "rocking" issue. 22 months (plus the 4.5 upgrade) is a long period to let this continue un-resolved rendering this plane un-flyable for most of us. I clearly see there is a large fan base for this Boeing plane on this forum itself. After 4.6, however, I wouldn't be "hasty about criticising CS" either (assuming CS is noting the further needed improvements). I can wait for v5.0...and their 737/777. Considering that the few good developers are probably not running �a very profitable business (for the amount of efforts they put in), it's in our interest they stay on to release new and authentic-feeling aircraft (once in a while) to keep the excitement of this great hobby. With Microsoft Flight not sure how all this will change.... "...it has been said that it (=Microsoft Flight) is looking to appeal to flying enthusiasts with the realism and accuracy shown in the previous titles of Microsoft Flight Simulator, but also will include other types of gameplay that appeal more to novices..." I guess we stay tuned. Happy flying, meanwhile!


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