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767 vs 757
Jul 24th, 2011 at 5:24pm
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Looking to expand my CS collection. I have the 727 and 707 Captain's now. I want to buy just one new plane for now. For those out there who have both the 767 or 757, would you recommend one over the other if you were buying just one of them? Although I have really enjoy both the 707 and 727,  my goal is to get more familiar with more modern aircraft and systems. Thanks in advance
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Re: 767 vs 757
Reply #1 - Jul 24th, 2011 at 5:39pm
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I would buy the 757-200. Both the 767 and 757 are essentially the same plane in terms of operation, FMC, and systems. The 767 is larger and therefore less nimble. My only concern would be the "rocking motion" issue with the 757. You could end up in that boat. I have been fortunate in that I have never had that problem. Look at the two forums for the 757 and 767 and see some of the threads that show what kind of problems you might have.

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Reply #2 - Jul 24th, 2011 at 5:45pm
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Thanks Michael,
Are you referring to the rocking motion when flying at low speeds with the AP on? I do experience that with the 707 if that's what you're referring to.
  
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Re: 767 vs 757
Reply #3 - Jul 24th, 2011 at 6:29pm
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Hi, Brian I have both the 757, and 767 and they are both remarkable aircraft. The 757 has a few issues such as the rocking back and forth as DAL191 mentioned. From my experience the 757 doesn't really rock but it has before. Sometimes the ILS system is a little buggy but not usually. The 757 takes a bit of a hit on frames but it's nothing that will make you stop flying. I run FSX on a laptop and I really don't notice anything more than a few frames. As for the 767, I haven't noticed any big bugs no rocking, and no ILS issues. People seem to say that the 767 takes a very big hit on frames, and that was something that made me a little skeptical about purchasing the 767 because I run FSX on a laptop. I was pleasantly surprised to find that it is not nearly as bad as I had expected not any more FPS loss than the 757. From my findings, the 767 has more features than the 757. The most obvious being the more detailed and complete virtual cabin. But maybe when Captain Sim updates the 757 which will be this year, it may include a full cabin with more detail. As for expansion packs, the 757 includes the 757-300 and 757F. The 767 includes the 767-200, 767F, KC-767, and E-767. It's hard to say which one to get, because they are both great aircraft. It really comes down to what you are looking for and what you are going to be doing with the aircraft. No matter what you choose, you will probably really enjoy it! Happy flying!  
  

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Reply #4 - Jul 24th, 2011 at 7:32pm
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The 757 will get you in and out of everything and will also receive her 4.5 update before the 767. So if you're not too much bound to e. g. the larger appearance of the 767 or the variants there, I'd recommend the 757 first.
  
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Reply #5 - Jul 24th, 2011 at 9:03pm
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CoolP wrote on Jul 24th, 2011 at 7:32pm:
The 757 will get you in and out of everything and will also receive her 4.5 update before the 767. So if you're not too much bound to e. g. the larger appearance of the 767 or the variants there, I'd recommend the 757 first.


Thinking about it you're right. I would recommend the 757 before the 767.
  

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Reply #6 - Jul 25th, 2011 at 4:27am
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BrianG wrote on Jul 24th, 2011 at 5:45pm:
Thanks Michael,
Are you referring to the rocking motion when flying at low speeds with the AP on? I do experience that with the 707 if that's what you're referring to.


The rocking motion I was referring to is in this thread http://www.captainsim.org/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1215554144/0#0. I don't know if its low speed with AP or not. Like I wrote, I have never had the problem. You would have to read the thread to see under what conditions it occurs. Please let us know what you decide.

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Reply #7 - Jul 25th, 2011 at 5:04am
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Hi Michael,
I did check out that thread. Might hold off on the 757 until the 4.5 version is released and there is resolve to this problem. I would hate to pay the $$ and get stuck with a "rocker ". In the mean time I can get my chops tight on the 767 and then when this 757 bug is fixed, it would be easy to transfer the skill sets. Thanks for yours and everyone's input on this. It's very appreciated.  Any further thoughts on this topic will be helpful and appreciated.
  
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Reply #8 - Jul 25th, 2011 at 1:17pm
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BrianG

That's probably the way to go, If you can fly one, you can fly the other with almost no additional information needed.

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Reply #9 - Jul 25th, 2011 at 3:10pm
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Another 757 bug i forgot to mention, is sometimes when cruising, it will start to slow down. It will slow WAY down like in the 100s and at the same time it will be pitching up then  eventually it stalls and it takes a few thousand feet to recover.
  

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Reply #10 - Jul 25th, 2011 at 4:48pm
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Hi Everyone,
Based on the threads of both aircraft and information provided by everyone I just downloaded the 767. What a change from the 727 and 707.The complexities in comparison are quite vast. Again, I'm not a real life pilot. I've learn a lot by using the 727 and 707 but the 767 will be a steep learning curve for me. My goal was to learn modern aircraft systems. Looks like I'll accomplish that if I get through this one.  Ok, back to the manuals. Thanks again for all your help.
  
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Reply #11 - Jul 25th, 2011 at 7:08pm
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I would choose the 767. More airlines operate it, and It's better than the 757 in range, and size.  It's also a wide body, while the 757 is just a single isle.
  

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Reply #12 - Jul 26th, 2011 at 4:51am
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The problem with the 767 is the fully modelled cabin, which will steal 1-5 FPS from you. Other than that, I enjoy it more.

BrianG- Make sure to read the FMC manual and follow this tutorial flight: http://www.captainsim.org/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1220997876. It's for the 757, but the planes are, for the most part, identical, so it works for both (though you might want to use a longer route than the flight mentions because it's going to be easier and more realistic for the bigger 767).

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Reply #13 - Jul 26th, 2011 at 5:20am
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Hi Boeing247,
Thanks for the link. I saw that tutorial once and lost track of it and was just looking for it so great timing. Regarding your comment on the cabin stealing frame rate, I thought there was a solution found in ACE for losing the cabin. I'll check it out.
I'm sure the video will be helpful. Just trying to read the manual is really hard. In this case I think its important to have a visual reference.  There are many other 767 FMC tutorials on youtube as well. Just getting started with the 767 and learned lots of new things today. Thanks a lot for your assistance.
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Reply #14 - Jul 26th, 2011 at 10:05am
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I thought there was a solution found in ACE for losing the cabin.
You're right. You can turn the full cabin off in ACE to give you better frame rates.
  

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