Everything was going nicely and then something happened with the localizer capture. When I realized it wasn't happening I disengaged the AP and barely got it slowed enough to exit the rwy before disaster! I'll have to refly the route and see if it happens again. I don't fly strictly by the book so I know where the problem lies!

Mark or Lou (or anyone) try a flight to ITO and see how it all works for you. Bet you can do it better than this!  

http://vimeo.com/26686381

Bruce

Geese, Lou! Nobody's perfect!  

Right now I'm level @ 300 en route to ITO from IQT (Iquitos) in the PAA 727-200. It's about 222 miles till cocktail hour.

I'll try to remember the flaps this time!  

Bruce

I am anxiously awaiting a video of your landing, in the CS 707, at ITO "at night and with bad weather"! Oh, btw, try it at 190kts with 5 degrees of flaps! Now that takes some skill!  

For sure, I am not a great sim pilot--- just an average, and casual one at that. I play this game about every other week for about 6-8 hours and that is diminishing, while waiting for *Flight*.

Anyway, here's a little better effort with the 727.

http://vimeo.com/26706395

Brucito

I must be a Flight Sim addict. Since 1pm on the 15 July 2011 until 11pm today (21 July 2011) I have flown 21 flights for a total of 56.1 hours. These are in real time, no accelerated time used. Of those flights, one was 8.3 hours, 2 were 4.7 hours, one was 10.6 hours, one was 4.1 hours, one was 6.1 hours, one was 4.6 hours and the rest were between 0.3 hours up to 2.2 hours.

Aussie time and date!

Hey, buedi, I use the VASI or PAPI lights religiously(rwy 4 at JFK doesn't have them for some odd reason). It seems at ITO they switch all of a sudden to 4 white and suddenly you're too high at the rwy threshold. I think weird things happen at ITO! First ATC practically runs you into that snow covered mountain. Then they clear you from 20000 down to 12000 and vector you to intercept the ILS. You have to descend rapidly which makes it hard to slow down and watch the flap speeds. Then I missed the localizer on the first attempt. Of course piloting has something to do with all that--- no doubt! But that's what makes it fun too! Am going to try Iquitos to Quito in the default 737-800 and see what gives.

Mark --- You are INDEED a sim junkie!! Between all the sim time and CS Forum time you can't possibly be still working! Try this Quito approach from Iquitos, Peru. It's under 400 miles. I'm going to try it one more time in the 707 and also with the default 737. (have to stay off the bike for a few days--- gas is $3.70 a gallon)

Brucito

Bruce,

Most runways that have a full CAT-II or III approach with the full ALSF-II lighting do not have VASI or PAPI since you are assumed to be flying an ILS and not a visual. I believe FSX models both, but I don't remember.

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You need to try this approach...



Don't go on line and look for ATC, just fly this approach into Quito in a 747. Let me know how you make out...  

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As for PaintNet, just push the various menu buttons and you will find all kinds of stuff.



The various tools are in the TOOL menu drop down. When you select a certain tool the part to the right on the menu bar changes to let you make other selections such as size, etc.  Look under the Window drop down to find color selection.








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Simple...

Bitters
Several oz of Bourbon
Some Sweet vermouth
Shake with ice & add cherry...

After you try to land at Quito in the mission section.

Thanks Lou for that lesson. I did not know, that you go for 3 white in a big bird.
And I´m pretty sure that FSX models both, PAPI and VASI. I think I saw VASI somewhere in Australia in FSX and I think it was an option when I created the Runway for my modified EDJA Airport many moons ago.

But as far as I recognize, FSX does not model the pink colour in the VASI... only Red and White like you have it at the PAPIs.

Nice landings in Quito Bruce !  I prefer the first one, you should cry "Banzaïïï"... 

Mric --- I DID!!  Bonzai!!!

I tried it again in the 707 from Cali, Columbia ---- not a whole lot better. Still not getting slowed down enough. Three point landing this time. Will post video when Vimeo finishes processing. Wait till you see the Cali Airport!! FSX graphics glitch that wasn't fixed. While I was typing the response to Lou the video got published. Here it is:

http://www.vimeo.com/26739637

Capt. Lou --

Will never get that mission completed---- ever!! I would love to see you do it! I'd almost bet no one could do it! Seems impossible!

If you don't have FSRecorder install it ---- it's FREE. You can probably record the whole mission as I don't think there is a time limit. The resulting file is called an frc file. You name and save it and anytime you are in FSX you can replay that recorded file. I am assuming you can email that frc file to me and I could start FSX, load a flight and play it. It's like an instant replay, but you have to have FSRecorder to play it and you can only play it when you are in FSX with a flight loaded. You can download it here:

http://www.fs-recorder.net/downloads.php

Salute!!

Bruce

PS -- You come here and teach me to fly FSX and I'll show you the movie making!! Didn't you say you had a Harley Softail? Ride it out here--- I'll meet you in Mt Vernon, IL!  

Lou, that's just hard to believe! How the heck you get from 17000 to 12000 @ 210 kts only 14 miles from the runway to begin with and get lined up like that is beyond me. In Big Bird no less! I'd almost pay to watch that in person! That's why you were fly'n and I was in res--- I guess!

That's a 2 Manhattan job--- on ME! Ooops, I just had your two!  

Bruce

Lou -

NO CHERRIES while in FSX, and no FSX after cherries! I learned that a long time ago!  

I got the turn to 150 okay and the descent to 12000 at 210kts. When I paused the sim at 14000 and went into spot view I was overflying the runway and way left of it. That happened twice. The first try I did turn to 350 too fast like you mentioned, but it seemed that that was after I had already past the rwy!??

Later today I'll try it again and I'll record the whole thing with FSRecorder and make a video. Right now I'm heading out on my scoot to Estes Park! 94 and severe clear here today!

Catch up with you later.

Bruce

BrianG, that is another good approach. What I did was save the flight about 10 to 12 miles out and then load the flight each time from that point and just play with the approach and windshear.

You are correct. Just listen to the controllers instructions and you have a lot of time to do the approach.

Lou

Nice video and nice landing Bruce. Fun stuff.
So Lou, does the FSX 747 mimic the flight characteristics of  a real 747 in those conditions as presented in the Singapore approach? It kind of seems like wrestling a wild animal the entire time. Sometimes on that flight for what ever reason I pull up just a bit to much for the flare and I find I have a real hard time getting the plane to settle on the runway. At this point I hit the speed brakes for not more than a second and then after a couple seconds delay, the plane settles nicely. It this not good form using speed brakes for this application?
Also, I have my default flight set up  for KPAE to KSEA in the CS 70 7 with 1/4 miles visibility, heavy turbulence and 25k wind 90 degrees relative and heavy rain. My approach is on 16R in KSEA. I can only land this successfully maybe 1 out 5 tries. My landing weight is about 220K. I can generally make the landing if I have the localizer just a bit off center at 2 miles on the DME so that when I actually get to the runway threshold the drift will have carried me to the right spot for the touch down. But that is a lot easier said than done. From that point the window of opportunity to set the plane down is so brief because in a split second the drift will have carried you off the runway and for me its very difficult to get in back in alignment. No real second tries unless you do a go around it seems.   In real life should a well seasoned pilot be able to make an instrument approach in such conditions in a 707? So I'm wondering at what point does an airport become shut down?
I have a better success rate using the 727 ( of course with a light landing weight). Thanks for your help.

Thanks, Brian--- it didn't look that good while I was doing it! Thought I might have to abort!

Whoa! Lou--- that's some really heavy iron in your garage!

You should move out here! We could ride to places like this in the Summer and Fall,

http://vimeo.com/26786657

and we could fly FS all winter. By the first Spring I would know how to fly FS and they'd be calling you Cecil B. De - Capt. Lou!  

Btw---There's a little airport 6 miles straight down the road from here. You could keep your Cub there, and I'd help with the gas! Whaddaya think!?  

Bruce

Michael -

You had one in there that was 19hrs---- in one day???? When you add in the forum time, this hobby can be all consuming!

I see you are in the TPA area. We lived in Coral Springs for five years and MCO for 9 years. I do miss FL! We have friends from Hudson all the way down to Naples. My old boss from Pan An lives on Longboat Key.

That's a dynamite system you have. Did you build it? You have all the high end components from about a year ago. You are either a geek or have been paying attention to Nick Needham's stuff!   If I lived where you are I'd drive just up the road and buy a new system from Jetline Systems in Spring Hill, FL.

Bruce

btscott wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2011 at 2:48pm:


The 19 hours in one day about did me in. There was like a two hour turn around in Dallas. Thank god it was a highly automated MD-11.

These computer might be up to date when you order them but by the time they are built, shipped and received they are already behind the curve.

Jetline Systems in Spring Hill is where this came from. I quit building PCs' in the middle 90s'.

Michael Cubine

DAL191 wrote on Jul 23^rd, 2011 at 3:25pm:

Why did you stop building your own? I still think that the best computers I can get, are the ones I build myself. And they're usually cheaper.

I know enough about Excel to easily put together something like you have. I know nothing at all bout Supercalc and Lotus 123 though.

Thanks Lou.

DAL191 wrote on Jul 24^th, 2011 at 4:31am:

Hi Michael.

Rereading my reply, I noticed that I seemed a bit harsh with the question about you quitting building you own PC's. Sorry for that. I can respect your reasons. I think I've been doing it for too long to be able to stop now.

I remember having a go at Lotus123, but I found some other program better (to me) back then. Lotus123 was probably the better in reality, but I was only doing very basic stuff with them back then, so Lotus123 was way beyond what I needed at the time. I'll never really know now.

Mark