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Markoz CS Team Offline Posts: 12373 Location: Victoria, Australia Joined: Apr 24^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: ILS and G/S Help Reply #15 - Apr 11^th, 2011 at 10:58am	Print Post
	So I load my FS flight plan as Rte 1, then manually input a similar flight plan for Rte 2, but I program in the arrival and departure runways (the SIDs and STARs and such). Then I can activate Rte 2 and it will take me right in for an ILS landing, right? No. In the RTE menu, select RTE COPY (LSK R4). It copies the entire active route into the inactive route. Mark

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LOU Beta Team Offline 727,707,747,757,767= 40years of Boeings Posts: 1594 Location: Central PA, USA Joined: Mar 3^rd, 2010 Gender:	Re: ILS and G/S Help Reply #16 - Apr 11^th, 2011 at 3:05pm	Print Post
	Here is a good place to look for all kinds of charts...http://usa-w.vatsim.net/charts/ You can also look at: http://www.vfrmap.com Lou

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Markoz CS Team Offline Posts: 12373 Location: Victoria, Australia Joined: Apr 24^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: ILS and G/S Help Reply #17 - Apr 11^th, 2011 at 3:34pm	Print Post
	Thanks for that Lou. The airsirvicesaustralia.com link I already have. I have downloaded quite a lot of the Airport and Approach charts for Australia from there. I really love that VFRMAP! It would be awesome if someone would do one for here in Oz. Mark

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boeing247 Senior Member Offline Pilots: Looking down on people since 1903 Posts: 1506 Location: Southern CA Joined: Feb 23^rd, 2011 Gender:	Re: ILS and G/S Help Reply #18 - Apr 12^th, 2011 at 4:49am	Print Post
	Thanks for the links, LOU. That map is really cool. Okay, so after I've pressed "Rte Copy" (it's odd I hadn't seen that button before. I need to pay more attention to the FMC), the rest of the stuff I said was right, no? I program in the Arr/Dep into Rte 2?

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Markoz CS Team Offline Posts: 12373 Location: Victoria, Australia Joined: Apr 24^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: ILS and G/S Help Reply #19 - Apr 12^th, 2011 at 11:02am	Print Post
	As time goes by, you will find more helpful stuff when it comes to the FMC. I still frequent the manual to look something up that I am not totally sure of. I never seems to end! Mark

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boeing247 Senior Member Offline Pilots: Looking down on people since 1903 Posts: 1506 Location: Southern CA Joined: Feb 23^rd, 2011 Gender:	Re: ILS and G/S Help Reply #20 - Apr 13^th, 2011 at 4:21am	Print Post
	Thanks to all for you replies! I forgot about the FMC manual... I'll read through that.

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boeing247 Senior Member Offline Pilots: Looking down on people since 1903 Posts: 1506 Location: Southern CA Joined: Feb 23^rd, 2011 Gender:	Re: ILS and G/S Help Reply #21 - Apr 13^th, 2011 at 4:43am	Print Post
	I just found a page in the 767 Manual III which has concise but good instructions on how to do an ILS approach. That should help. One last thing: If you're using your flight plan to take you into the runway, how do you stop ATC from vectoring you?

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Markoz CS Team Offline Posts: 12373 Location: Victoria, Australia Joined: Apr 24^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: ILS and G/S Help Reply #22 - Apr 13^th, 2011 at 11:39am	Print Post
	boeing247 wrote on Apr 13^th, 2011 at 4:43am: I just found a page in the 767 Manual III which has concise but good instructions on how to do an ILS approach. That should help. One last thing: If you're using your flight plan to take you into the runway, how do you stop ATC from vectoring you? The only ways that I know of, are to either fly a VFR flight or to cancel your current IFR. If anyone knows of another way, I'm all ears (I wanna know)! Mark

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boeing247 Senior Member Offline Pilots: Looking down on people since 1903 Posts: 1506 Location: Southern CA Joined: Feb 23^rd, 2011 Gender:	Re: ILS and G/S Help Reply #23 - Apr 13^th, 2011 at 11:02pm	Print Post
	I did a search online and it looks like there are payware ATC systems that you could buy. That's probably not something I would do, but it sounds good.

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Cappy Senior Member Offline Moar fuel please Posts: 375 Location: United States of Australia Joined: Apr 17^th, 2010	Re: ILS and G/S Help Reply #24 - Apr 15^th, 2011 at 8:31am	Print Post
	Markoz wrote on Apr 13^th, 2011 at 11:39am: boeing247 wrote on Apr 13^th, 2011 at 4:43am: I just found a page in the 767 Manual III which has concise but good instructions on how to do an ILS approach. That should help. One last thing: If you're using your flight plan to take you into the runway, how do you stop ATC from vectoring you? The only ways that I know of, are to either fly a VFR flight or to cancel your current IFR. If anyone knows of another way, I'm all ears (I wanna know)! Mark Finger trouble. i.e you "forget" to tune the radios. ATC usually have a chuckle if you declare finger trouble after missing a call. Unfortunately Mr Fat Controller isn't so friendly in FSX.

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Markoz CS Team Offline Posts: 12373 Location: Victoria, Australia Joined: Apr 24^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: ILS and G/S Help Reply #25 - Apr 15^th, 2011 at 8:39am	Print Post
	Cappy wrote on Apr 15^th, 2011 at 8:31am: Finger trouble. i.e you "forget" to tune the radios. ATC usually have a chuckle if you declare finger trouble after missing a call. Unfortunately Mr Fat Controller isn't so friendly in FSX. It doesn't help when my flight attendant (wife) goes into town and I'm desperate for a cup of coffee. I go and try and do it and the stupid ATC has cancelled my IFR flight, that really makes me angry! It's even worse when I'm hobbling back and forth so I don't have that happen and it still does happen .

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romax Full Member Offline Posts: 12 Joined: Sep 29^th, 2010	Re: ILS and G/S Help Reply #26 - Apr 15^th, 2011 at 8:46am	Print Post
	Another link (767): http://www.inral.com/767_tech_old/contents.htm ;


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boeing247 Senior Member Offline Pilots: Looking down on people since 1903 Posts: 1506 Location: Southern CA Joined: Feb 23^rd, 2011 Gender:	Re: ILS and G/S Help Reply #27 - Apr 16^th, 2011 at 1:17am	Print Post
	If you're not being vectored by ATC, how can you find the glideslope? Also, how would you know when to start descending. Can you find the T/D point in the VNAV page?

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Markoz CS Team Offline Posts: 12373 Location: Victoria, Australia Joined: Apr 24^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: ILS and G/S Help Reply #28 - Apr 16^th, 2011 at 1:30pm	Print Post
	boeing247 wrote on Apr 16^th, 2011 at 1:17am: If you're not being vectored by ATC, how can you find the glideslope? Also, how would you know when to start descending. Can you find the T/D point in the VNAV page? Programing the FMC correctly using SID and STAR (STandard ARrival) will guide you to the ILS. The FMC determines the TD according to any TRANS (TRANSitions) for the STAR or ILS. It is that easy and why I often fly a VFR. Of course this makes it tricky if the weather conditions are IFR and so I just go in and land with any communication with ATC or Control Tower. I know it isn't the right way to do it, but it works well. Mark

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boeing247 Senior Member Offline Pilots: Looking down on people since 1903 Posts: 1506 Location: Southern CA Joined: Feb 23^rd, 2011 Gender:	Re: ILS and G/S Help Reply #29 - Apr 16^th, 2011 at 3:19pm	Print Post
	Just to make sure, SIDs and STARs would be the Dep/Arr info, right? Do I need to have VNAV turned on for it to take me into the glideslope?

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