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Mik75 Full Member Offline Posts: 46 Location: EDDF Germany Joined: Dec 28^th, 2009 Gender:	1.3 update and some questions Apr 6^th, 2011 at 2:20pm	Print Post
	Hi! I just updated my 707 to version 1.3 recently after a longer pause with flight simming. I also bought the cargo expansion pack for it and gave it a try today. I noticed that the INS was already present in the VC, but I couldn�t turn it on? Is there something I�m missing? Therefore, I navigated by using VORs. The tuning worked flawlessly and the HSI indicated correctly, but the A/P had a hard time following the VOR on a certain radial. What am I doing wrong? Thanks in advance & greets, Michael

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Markoz CS Team Offline Posts: 12371 Location: Victoria, Australia Joined: Apr 24^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: 1.3 update and some questions Reply #1 - Apr 6^th, 2011 at 4:29pm	Print Post
	Hi Michael You need to back up the original panel.cfg in the [FSX root]\SimObjects\CS_B707-300\panel folder. Then rename the CIVA_panel.cfg to panel.cfg and then you can use the CIVA INS in the 707. Hope this helps Mark

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Mik75 Full Member Offline Posts: 46 Location: EDDF Germany Joined: Dec 28^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: 1.3 update and some questions Reply #2 - Apr 6^th, 2011 at 5:23pm	Print Post
	Thanks a lot! That surely helps. Any ideas concerning the autopilot?

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Markoz CS Team Offline Posts: 12371 Location: Victoria, Australia Joined: Apr 24^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: 1.3 update and some questions Reply #3 - Apr 7^th, 2011 at 3:41am	Print Post
	You have to switch the DOPPLER-INS SWITCH ('707 Captain' FLIGHT MANUAL Part II - Aircraft and Systems (cs707_manual2.pdf) page 22) to INS, then the AP will follow the INS course once you turn the Mode Selector Switch to NAV. Make sure to open the SimIcons Panel using SHIFT+1 to initialize the CIVA INS after the aircraft first loads in FSX, or it won't work. CoolP has a Topic on dual INS, and a whole bunch of other info, here: http://www.captainsim.org/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1285100008. I highly recommend that you read through it for help with the CIVA INS. Mark

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Mik75 Full Member Offline Posts: 46 Location: EDDF Germany Joined: Dec 28^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: 1.3 update and some questions Reply #4 - Apr 7^th, 2011 at 2:52pm	Print Post
	Hi Mark! Thanks again. But I think you got me a little wrong. I mean the A/P behaviour when it is in VOR/LOC mode. It is struggling to follow a radial of a VOR, and in Auto G/S-mode it also "swinging" a lot while following the localiser. Is this a confirmed bug or is it only my problem? Thanks in advance & greets, Michael

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Markoz CS Team Offline Posts: 12371 Location: Victoria, Australia Joined: Apr 24^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: 1.3 update and some questions Reply #5 - Apr 7^th, 2011 at 4:30pm	Print Post
	Thanks again. But I think you got me a little wrong. Sorry about that. I mean the A/P behaviour when it is in VOR/LOC mode. It is struggling to follow a radial of a VOR, I have not flown a VOR to VOR flight so I would have to see if mine does it. in Auto G/S-mode it also "swinging" a lot while following the localiser. I've never had that happen. I have no problems (no swinging) with tracking the LOC and GS nicely on approach. It could be that you are too heavy and/or too slow on approach. Mark

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Mik75 Full Member Offline Posts: 46 Location: EDDF Germany Joined: Dec 28^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: 1.3 update and some questions Reply #6 - Apr 7^th, 2011 at 9:56pm	Print Post
	Hi Mark! I double checked the circumstances on the appraoch, and the weight and the speeds were definitely within the limits, but the swinging appears.

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Markoz CS Team Offline Posts: 12371 Location: Victoria, Australia Joined: Apr 24^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: 1.3 update and some questions Reply #7 - Apr 9^th, 2011 at 7:03am	Print Post
	Hi. The 707 is not good at following the VOR radial! She steers left and right of the radial and it gets worse as I get closer to the VOR. Using AUTO GS, once the aircraft settles on the LOC and GS, it comes in smooth and straight, no swinging/swaying. I only need to monitor the throttles. She will rock a little left and right if I have a decent crosswind though. Mark

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Mik75 Full Member Offline Posts: 46 Location: EDDF Germany Joined: Dec 28^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: 1.3 update and some questions Reply #8 - Apr 9^th, 2011 at 8:03am	Print Post
	Thanks for the fast reply. So I am not the only one with the VOR-problem... That�s definitely something that should be fixed in a future update! Concerning the rocking on approach, I will pay attention to the wind conditions on my next flight. Greets, Michael

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Panny Full Member Offline FSX is a pain in the ass. Posts: 242 Joined: Mar 5^th, 2011	Re: 1.3 update and some questions Reply #9 - Apr 9^th, 2011 at 3:11pm	Print Post
	The S turns is an actual problem of the 707 and early autopilots. So it is not an error of Captain sim.

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Mik75 Full Member Offline Posts: 46 Location: EDDF Germany Joined: Dec 28^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: 1.3 update and some questions Reply #10 - Apr 10^th, 2011 at 11:55am	Print Post
	Hmmm, but I have doubts that the 707 wasn't able to fly a radial of a VOR correctly...

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