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Message started by Mik75 on Apr 6th, 2011 at 2:20pm

Title: 1.3 update and some questions
Post by Mik75 on Apr 6th, 2011 at 2:20pm
Hi!
I just updated my 707 to version 1.3 recently after a longer pause with flight simming.
I also bought the cargo expansion pack for it and gave it a try today.
I noticed that the INS was already present in the VC, but I couldnīt turn it on? Is there something Iīm missing?  :-[
Therefore, I navigated by using VORs. The tuning worked flawlessly and the HSI indicated correctly, but the A/P had a hard time following the VOR on a certain radial.
What am I doing wrong?
Thanks in advance & greets,
Michael

Title: Re: 1.3 update and some questions
Post by Markoz on Apr 6th, 2011 at 4:29pm
Hi Michael

You need to back up the original panel.cfg in the [FSX root]\SimObjects\CS_B707-300\panel folder. Then rename the CIVA_panel.cfg to panel.cfg and then you can use the CIVA INS in the 707.

Hope this helps

Mark

Title: Re: 1.3 update and some questions
Post by Mik75 on Apr 6th, 2011 at 5:23pm
Thanks a lot!
That surely helps.
Any ideas concerning the autopilot?

Title: Re: 1.3 update and some questions
Post by Markoz on Apr 7th, 2011 at 3:41am
You have to switch the DOPPLER-INS SWITCH ('707 Captain' FLIGHT MANUAL Part II - Aircraft and Systems (cs707_manual2.pdf) page 22) to INS, then the AP will follow the INS course once you turn the Mode Selector Switch to NAV. Make sure to open the SimIcons Panel using SHIFT+1 to initialize the CIVA INS after the aircraft first loads in FSX, or it won't work.

CoolP has a Topic on dual INS, and a whole bunch of other info, here: http://www.captainsim.org/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1285100008. I highly recommend that you read through it for help with the CIVA INS. ;)

Mark

Title: Re: 1.3 update and some questions
Post by Mik75 on Apr 7th, 2011 at 2:52pm
Hi Mark!
Thanks again. But I think you got me a little wrong.
I mean the A/P behaviour when it is in VOR/LOC mode.
It is struggling to follow a radial of a VOR, and in Auto G/S-mode it also "swinging" a lot while following the localiser.
Is this a confirmed bug or is it only my problem?
Thanks in advance & greets,
Michael

Title: Re: 1.3 update and some questions
Post by Markoz on Apr 7th, 2011 at 4:30pm
Thanks again. But I think you got me a little wrong.
Sorry about that.

I mean the A/P behaviour when it is in VOR/LOC mode.
It is struggling to follow a radial of a VOR,
I have not flown a VOR to VOR flight so I would have to see if mine does it.

in Auto G/S-mode it also "swinging" a lot while following the localiser.
I've never had that happen. I have no problems (no swinging) with tracking the LOC and GS nicely on approach. It could be that you are too heavy and/or too slow on approach.

Mark

Title: Re: 1.3 update and some questions
Post by Mik75 on Apr 7th, 2011 at 9:56pm
Hi Mark!
I double checked the circumstances on the appraoch, and the weight and the speeds were definitely within the limits, but the swinging appears.

Title: Re: 1.3 update and some questions
Post by Markoz on Apr 9th, 2011 at 7:03am
Hi.

The 707 is not good at following the VOR radial! She steers left and right of the radial and it gets worse as I get closer to the VOR. :(
Using AUTO GS, once the aircraft settles on the LOC and GS, it comes in smooth and straight, no swinging/swaying. I only need to monitor the throttles. She will rock a little left and right if I have a decent crosswind though.

Mark

Title: Re: 1.3 update and some questions
Post by Mik75 on Apr 9th, 2011 at 8:03am
Thanks for the fast reply.
So I am not the only one with the VOR-problem...
Thatīs definitely something that should be fixed in a future update!
Concerning the rocking on approach, I will pay attention to the wind conditions on my next flight.
Greets,
Michael

Title: Re: 1.3 update and some questions
Post by pete197 on Apr 9th, 2011 at 3:11pm
The S turns is an actual problem of the 707 and early autopilots. So it is not an error of Captain sim.

Title: Re: 1.3 update and some questions
Post by Mik75 on Apr 10th, 2011 at 11:55am
Hmmm, but I have doubts that the 707 wasn't able to fly a radial of a VOR correctly...

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