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David Paul Senior Member Offline Posts: 270 Joined: Dec 25^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: 727-200 flight model mod available Reply #30 - Mar 4^th, 2011 at 1:53am	Print Post
	For some reason, certain ZIP/RAR type utilities seem to think that the replacement .AIR file is an installer, which it isn't. You just copy this file that appears to be an installer into the aircraft folder, and let it overwrite the existing file. I was confused by this same issue at first. I have really been having fun learning more about prototypical operation of this bird thanks to these mods. It's neat when everything happens more or less like it would in real life.

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Butch Full Member Offline Posts: 7 Joined: Jan 6^th, 2009	Re: 727-200 flight model mod available Reply #31 - Mar 8^th, 2011 at 5:55am	Print Post
	Thanks very much for the mods and making them available. Could I please have the link for the 100 version? Much appreciated! Cheers Butch


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Michael2 Full Member Offline Posts: 116 Joined: Jan 30^th, 2009	Re: 727-200 flight model mod available Reply #32 - Mar 8^th, 2011 at 7:15pm	Print Post
	The flight model mod for the 727-100 is here: http://www.mediafire.com/file/mgim4k44wzz/...20mod%201.1.zip


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art97 New Member Offline Posts: 1 Joined: Mar 11^th, 2011	Re: 727-200 flight model mod available Reply #33 - Mar 11^th, 2011 at 12:45am	Print Post
	Michael - Thank you for the great mods, I have installed them both and they make flying the cs727 great. 2 problems (the but). 1. On the 727-100, the mac shows up as a (-) minus, number. Did I do something wrong? 2. On the 727-200, the AP does not come up as it does on the 100. It did before the mod. Art Stuart


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Michael2 Full Member Offline Posts: 116 Joined: Jan 30^th, 2009	Re: 727-200 flight model mod available Reply #34 - Mar 11^th, 2011 at 5:29am	Print Post
	A minus number for the MAC% would indicate a very nose heavy aircraft, so either you made an error in modifying the aircraft.cfg so as to move the centre of gravity somewhere it shouldn't be or you are doing something wrong in loading the aircraft. You should only use the Captain Sim Ace utility to load it. Or yoo may have forgot to install the replacement air file which I seem to recall moves the centre of lift. I'm not sure what you mean by the "AP doesn't come up." If you mean there's no popup when pressing shift-4, I guess you did something wrong in modifying the panel.cfg file when you enabled the MAC/TAT gauge.


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MatzeH84 Full Member Offline Posts: 38 Location: Germany Joined: Jan 11^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: 727-200 flight model mod available Reply #35 - Mar 12^th, 2011 at 7:17pm	Print Post
	I got the same- a negative CG, both in the 100 and 200. I checked and rechecked the modding steps but couldn't find any error I could have done. The aircraft was loaded with ACE, in the 200 for example 104 pax and 3 cargo containers in each compartment.


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CoolP Senior Member Offline Posts: 2568 Joined: Jan 17^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: 727-200 flight model mod available Reply #36 - Mar 12^th, 2011 at 7:59pm	Print Post
	Matze, can you post a screenshot of your "fuel and payload" FSX screen? So I can set my plane to the same numbers and show you my MAC, staying in positive ranges. Or I'll give you an example of mine, together with the MAC reading. I'm with Michael2 on this, there seems to be something wrong in your aircraft.cfg. Here's my example of a loaded 727-100 Passenger version. 82 Passengers, 8 Containers (4 front, 4 aft) at 1102 lbs each. 20.000 lbs of fuel, 8.000 in the center tank and 6.000 in the wings.


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David Paul Senior Member Offline Posts: 270 Joined: Dec 25^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: 727-200 flight model mod available Reply #37 - Mar 12^th, 2011 at 8:44pm	Print Post
	Make sure that the aircraft config line "empty_weight_CG_position � � = -8.5, 0, 0 " �was edited correctly. �Note the Minus sign in front of the 8.5 there. � I edited my -100/F and -200/F files today, and accidentally left out the minus sign for that line. �That gave me the negative MAC reading that the OP seems to be getting.

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boeing247 Senior Member Offline Pilots: Looking down on people since 1903 Posts: 1506 Location: Southern CA Joined: Feb 23^rd, 2011 Gender:	Re: 727-200 flight model mod available Reply #38 - Mar 12^th, 2011 at 10:34pm	Print Post
	Could somebody make a mod to make the 727 sound louder? For the noisiest jetliner, the CS model sure is quiet... It's one of my very few complaints.

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AVIATor-Olav Full Member Offline Posts: 11 Joined: May 27^th, 2009	Re: 727-200 flight model mod available Reply #39 - May 6^th, 2011 at 11:08am	Print Post
	Thanks for the mod! One problem though, after installing the TAT and MAC guages the autoplilot doesn't show up when I hit Shift + 4? Only the TAT and MAC guages appear. In the -100 everything shows up fine. Can anyone help? Best regards Tor


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liser Full Member Offline Posts: 5 Joined: Jul 4^th, 2011	Re: 727-200 flight model mod available Reply #40 - Jul 7^th, 2011 at 7:41pm	Print Post
	Is the 727-200 mod suitable for Freighter expansion pack??


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David Paul Senior Member Offline Posts: 270 Joined: Dec 25^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: 727-200 flight model mod available Reply #41 - Jul 7^th, 2011 at 10:07pm	Print Post
	liser wrote on Jul 7^th, 2011 at 7:41pm: Is the 727-200 mod suitable for Freighter expansion pack?? I installed the mod for my 200-F and it works fine for me.

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liser Full Member Offline Posts: 5 Joined: Jul 4^th, 2011	Re: 727-200 flight model mod available Reply #42 - Jul 7^th, 2011 at 11:17pm	Print Post
	Thank you! I'll give it a test.


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Justin Friedland Full Member Offline Posts: 12 Joined: Dec 28^th, 2008	Re: 727-200 flight model mod available Reply #43 - Jul 20^th, 2011 at 2:40am	Print Post
	Quote: One problem though, after installing the TAT and MAC guages the autoplilot doesn't show up when I hit Shift + 4? Only the TAT and MAC guages appear. In the -100 everything shows up fine. Can anyone help? Best regards Tor I had the same prob. �Worked great in the -100, but I only got the TAT and MAC in the -200. �My solution was to make all the suggested changes to [Window03] in the panel config file, but substitute this for the 6th line -- the one that references the gauge. gauge00=..\..\CS_B727-100\panel\Captain_Sim.p721.P12!P12_001_ap, 0,0, 427,106 Since the -200 is essentially an add-on to the base -100, that appears to be where the gauge lives...in the -100. Also, a very nifty work-around the sound problem was to be found in the "Sounds" thread of this forum. �On page 6 a post by CoolP suggests substituting the 707 sound gauge for the 727 sound gauge. �of course, you have to own the 707 to get the gauge, but by gosh, it works. �Sounds first time, every time, no double loading...just a couple of transient error messages that go away quickly and leave no aftertaste. �Check out the thread for details. These two fixes have worked for me. �Your mileage may vary.


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Saul Galeno Full Member Offline Posts: 6 Joined: Jul 19^th, 2011	Re: 727-200 flight model mod available Reply #44 - Jul 20^th, 2011 at 2:01pm	Print Post
	Gents, Taking into account the company's data that simulate (Rio Linhas A�reas), which used the 727-200F JT8D-17R engine with S3. I changed the thrust of 14k to 17.4k, the MTOW for 201.300lbs (Because of the Hush Kit Stage 3) and the RPM of the N2 to the real value of 12.250RPM. Only I could not change the sensitivity of the trim, does anyone have a tip on how to change? Why be trimmed by VC sucks! []s


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