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Strange CTD with B-52
Dec 31st, 2010 at 9:10pm
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Happy New Year!  I have added the B-52 to my CS aircraft (C-130, 707, 727,757, 767) and am well pleased with its usual CS attention to detail.  I want to discuss a strange CTD I have experienced with the B-52.  My system is old and marginal in performance (AMD 64 single core processor, 4 GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce 8600GT video card).  I'm running XP 32-bit with all updates. I have to keep the graphics sliders in the middle because of system limitations, but this has worked okay with all the previous CS products. Before anyone dismisses my CTDs because of the marginal performance, read on.  I flew 4 daytime flights within the US from 1 hour to 3 hour duration, 2 at low level, 2 at FL310, no problems.  Next I flight planned and flew at night from VTBU to Haiphong, Vietnam, taking off at 02:00 local time and climbed to FL310.  The flight plan time was 1:17.  About 20 minutes into the flight I had a CTD with the error message "You have run out of memory..." etc.  I tried the same plan again, same result.  I then flew from VTBU to CCK, Taiwan, 2:30 flight plan time, part night, part day flight, no problem.  I then planned a flight VTBU to Hanoi to vary the route slightly, took off at 02:00 and 20 minutes later had another CTD.  I planned another flight VTBU to Kadena, Okinawa, flight plan time 3:38, departure time 02:00 and at the 2 and 1/2 hour mark have had no problems.
Can anyone see anything about the flights to the north part of Vietnam that would cause these FTDs?  I had the same situation with my CS 767.  I have made multiple flights of up to 12 hour duration over the Atlantic and Pacific, and over both north and south poles.  But everytime I flew the 767 VHHH to Kolkata, India I had the same CTD.
I say again, I'm not complaining about this fine product and I understand the limitations of my system, but I'm curious to know what could cause route-specific CTDs.
  
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Re: Strange CTD with B-52
Reply #1 - Jan 1st, 2011 at 1:18am
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What happens on these flights with other Captain Sim aircraft (especially the 707)? And with other non Captain Sim, like the default 747 (I know...YUK...that would suck but...), aircraft? This could confirm if it's just the B-52 or Captain Sim aircraft. It could be worth a shot, if/when you have time.

Mark
  

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Re: Strange CTD with B-52
Reply #2 - Jan 1st, 2011 at 5:58pm
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Thanks Mark, that's a good idea.  I'll try some other planes on those same routes that had the CTDs.

Jim Codlin
  
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Re: Strange CTD with B-52
Reply #3 - Jan 3rd, 2011 at 9:51pm
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Hi Mark,

Curiouser and curiouser...I ran the tests as you suggested.  The CS 707 packed up with a CTD at the 25 minute mark, similar to previous CTDs.  I then flew the U-Taphao-Haiphong route again with a 737-400 add-on from another vendor, same flight profile, night flight, etc., and that also crashed to desktop around 25 minutes after departure.  So, it's not Captain Sim products causing the problem, it's the FSX route.  I guess I'll go to the FlightSim.com FSX forum to find out if anyone else has had the problem.
Thanks again for your suggestion.
Jim
  
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Re: Strange CTD with B-52
Reply #4 - Jan 3rd, 2011 at 11:28pm
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I had the same 'Out of memory' fault on a number of high resolution models, not only CS.

Can't remember where I read about this fix but it certainly worked for me on my Xp 32 bit machine.

You may need to increase your virtual memory by backing up then edit your boot.ini (C:\ root directory) to make the last line look like this:

/NOEXECUTE=OPTIN /FASTDETECT /3GB /Userva=2560
  

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Re: Strange CTD with B-52
Reply #5 - Jan 4th, 2011 at 2:07am
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Bruce,
Thanks for the heads-up for that mod, I'm going to try it tomorrow.  The thing I don't get is that I've flown most of the CS products and a number of other high resolution add-ons on long and short routes all over the world without problems and with the same video settings.  But this particular route and another from Hong Kong to Kolkata result in a CTD every time.  Strange!
Thanks again,

Jim
  
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Re: Strange CTD with B-52
Reply #6 - Jan 4th, 2011 at 4:30am
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Going on the fact that this only happening in a specific area of FSX, regardless of the aircraft used, maybe you have some corrupted scenery files in FSX. Use the FSX DVD and choose the repair option and see if that helps to fix it.

If it's still not working right, maybe use should do a complete error-check of the HDD.

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Re: Strange CTD with B-52
Reply #7 - Jan 4th, 2011 at 11:34pm
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Thanks again, Mark, you are always right there with good suggestions.  I haven't done the boot.ini mod yet, but I have run several checks on the HDD that didn't return any anomolies. As for the repair option, I'll think about that versus remaining in a fetal position in denial that anything is wrong.

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Re: Strange CTD with B-52
Reply #8 - Jan 5th, 2011 at 1:49pm
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Trailboss wrote on Jan 4th, 2011 at 11:34pm:
As for the repair option, I'll think about that versus remaining in a fetal position in denial that anything is wrong.
LOL

The repair option is easier than a full uninstall/reinstall option because it keeps settings and addons intact, excepting those that change actual FSX files (like REX2). It's been a while and I can't remember if you need to repair Acceleration afterwards too. It takes the same time as a full install, but with the advantages I mentioned.

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Re: Strange CTD with B-52
Reply #9 - Jan 7th, 2011 at 7:22pm
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Mark and Bruce,
I did both suggestions, modifying the boot.ini file and then running FSX repair (just to refresh your memory it was necessary to reinstall SP1 and 2; neither gave me a repair option).  Unfortunately, when I did another B-52 flight U-Taphao to Haiphong I again had a CTD on that route.  This seems to be something I'm going to have to live with.  When I upgrade to a new system maybe that will end the problem, although it doesn't really seem to be a RAM capacity problem.
Thanks again for your suggestions, and if you have any other ideas I would appreciate it if you would pass them on.

Jim Codlin

Later information:  I just flew the B-52 from Kadena to Haiphong, 2 1/2 hour flight time, similar conditions to the flights that had CTDs, and completed the flight without incident. Go figure.  JC
  
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