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GPS NAV switch for boeing 767-300 ?
May 18th, 2010 at 8:22pm
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Hello.

I Have changed something from panel.cfg and have now a gps popup screen for boeing 767-300.

Now i am looking for the gps - Nav switch for this plane.
What do i have to change on panel.cfg to get a gps nav switch on my autopilot panel for the boeing 767?

  
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Re: GPS NAV switch for boeing 767-300 ?
Reply #1 - May 18th, 2010 at 11:23pm
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Hi.

You need to add the Nav GPS Switch to the GPS panel entry. You can do it like this example from my 727-100 panel.cfg:

[Window03]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=451,106
position=2
visible=0
ident=10005
gauge00=Captain_Sim.p721.P12!P12_001_ap, 24,0, 427,106
gauge01=Cessna!Nav_GPS_Annunciator, 0,22,24,22
gauge02=Cessna!Nav GPS Switch, 0,0,24,22


You MUST add the extra pixel size to the Window so that the NAV GPS Switch will be displayed. Notice the difference between the width of the Window underlined compared to the width of the Captain Sim Autopilot gauge 451 pixels verses 427 pixels. The position I have used for my Cessna!NAV GPS Switch is the top right of the display.

Just as a side note. I would NOT switch between NAV and GPS modes in the CS767's because you could mess up how the FMC controls the Autopilot in the plane. To get my 767's to follow the GPS route, I load the FS Flight Plan into the FMC so that the 767's flight plan matches what you see in the GPS that you have added to the panel. I have added the GPS to my 767's so that I can "see" exactly were I am on my flight route (an inflight map??).

Hope this helps.

Mark
  

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Re: GPS NAV switch for boeing 767-300 ?
Reply #2 - May 19th, 2010 at 5:52am
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Markoz, How kan i load the flightplan into the FMC? I couldnt find it in the maual.

  
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Reply #3 - May 19th, 2010 at 9:57am
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When you are on the Route Page 1 (RTE 1), look at the Right Line Select Key 3 (SEND), and click on it. This opens the SELECT CO ROUTE page. On the bottom right, beside Left Line Select Key 6 (FLTSIM FPLS), click on it to open the FLTSIM FPLS (Flight Sim Flight Plans) and it will list ALL the flight plans that you have saved in the Flight Simulator X Files folder. And I do mean ALL. So...If I make a plan for my 767or 757, I make sure that the flight plan I make starts with either 767 or 757, so I can find it easily with the FMC. Once it is loaded in the FMC, you use LNAV on the Autopilot to follow that plan. LNAV is similar to GPS mode in the FS default Autopilots.

You can also load that same flight plan using FSX Flight Planner and that will then show you the flight plan on your GPS. You will also have the flight plan in the Kneeboard, with all our waypoints.

It won't hurt if you want to use SIDS or STARS in the FMC. It will just make you stray from the begining section of the flight plan and the ending part of the flight plan, unless you add those SIDS and STARS waypoints into the FSX Flight Planner plan. If you do do that last bit, you will need to add your own SPEED and ALTITUDE constraints in the legs pages. Without adding them you will not have and T/D because the FMC will assume that you are going to fly the whole route at the altitude and speed for the flight (e.g. M.795/FL380).

I hope this helps you out.

Mark

EDIT. I decided to show it to you in an image.

  

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Reply #4 - May 19th, 2010 at 11:10am
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thanks allot
  
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Reply #5 - May 19th, 2010 at 12:49pm
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Why would you need the default Garmin in a 767 (fully P-RNAV capable, IRS retrofitted, high RNP). Gosh! Learn the FMC.
  
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Reply #6 - May 19th, 2010 at 4:09pm
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mbucholski wrote on May 19th, 2010 at 12:49pm:
Why would you need the default Garmin in a 767 (fully P-RNAV capable, IRS retrofitted, high RNP). Gosh! Learn the FMC.

That's true about the FMC, but newbies need to start somewhere. I don't see any harm in having the default Garmin GPS there. I have it in most of my planes, default, freeware or paywhere. I will add it if I want to have it in that plane. I like using it as a map to see where in the world I am. I usually turn it on, sometimes I even use the Direct To button and key in my destination. I use that as way of seeing how far to go, albeit very roughly, the PROG page of the FMC is much more accurate. I like maps and I like looking at them! I always have an atlas near by, even on my computer desk a lot of the time. It often helps me to decide on new places to fly to. Sometime the GPS does too.

Learn the FMC? Definitely! It's a must. But it doesn't happen in a day. It takes time. I originally started out by loading flight plans created with the default FS Flight Planner or FS Commander 8.x. I then learned how to place the waypoints and airways into the FMC using the CDU. Next I learned how to add SIDS and STARS. I read the manuals, but sometimes got confused, so most of my learning was by trial and error with a lot of reading through manual5 on the FMC AND asking lots of questions in here. I got there in the end. Even so, I believe I still have a lot to learn.

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Re: GPS NAV switch for boeing 767-300 ?
Reply #7 - May 19th, 2010 at 4:27pm
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Mark, you know it's nothing personal and really - please don't explain yourself Smiley. As I previously said: I perfectly know that you know how to fly this thing (sorry for the style, uhhh). I'm just against this kind of attitude, where folks by a plane, never heard of VNAV before and they see no improvement in that matter, cause hey; "Who has the time to learn these things?" 'As real as it gets' is not some palaver. So, take things seriously people (and again - just in case - not you Mark Cheesy). It's hard sometimes, but at least try. It's much more satisfying when you understand your plane deeply and use all the systems provided. Sticking to the good ole Garmin (as a basic RNAV equipment, not necessarily a supplementary one) only munches your time and is much more 'workloadish'.
  
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Re: GPS NAV switch for boeing 767-300 ?
Reply #8 - May 19th, 2010 at 8:57pm
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Is every sid or star related to one of the runway that you will take off from or landing? Or can you choose any of these for every runway?
  
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Re: GPS NAV switch for boeing 767-300 ?
Reply #9 - May 19th, 2010 at 9:28pm
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SID's are specific to specific runway departures depending on wind directions and STAR's are the same specific to wind directions as to which runway is in use.

On creating a flight plan one has to take into account the route one wants/needs to take, hense, looking at the chart for departure you find the EXIT point of a particular SID, enter that AFTER the Departure Airport and likewise for Arrival Airport. Check the Star's for arrivals and enter the nearest aid to the entry point of the STAR BEFORE the arrival. Then create/build the flight plan.

  

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