I too have just downloaded it. I don't have much time to play today either.

Thank you very Captain Sim. I shall consider this a Christmas Gift from you (along with the Christmas Sale earlier)! Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you all and your families. Have a safe one.

Mark

Same problem here! no cockpit sounds as well, and using soundoffwhensimisslew=0. Worked well with v2.2. Does anyone discovered the new workarround for this?
Thanks,
Alex

Same problem here with sounds : no flight intendant, no altitude alert, no smoke and seatbelt,  no apu's sound... "don't sink" call during approach problem and last but not least : the AP don't follow the glide anyway...

Regards.

Richard Portier

Ahhh!
Too bad I deleted my 2.2 installer and just kept the 2.3 one! I can't test that gauge change, that fix sounds promising, but thanks Mark anyway.
Alex

alexcolka wrote on Dec 26^th, 2009 at 4:01pm:
I still have all my installers and I never get rid of any of them either (I save them on CDs or DVDs). Even when updates/newer versions become available, I keep the older ones.

I only bought the 727 during the fantastic Christmas Sale, so it only starts at 2.2 .

Mark

Hello,
I'm very confused about the cockpit or systems sounds, with this 2.3 version at first I don't get the sounds but if I reload the aircraft or change it to other livery (on the ground) the sounds come back again! very strange indeed but a temporary fix until something final appears.
Alex

I have not had chance to download this update yet. Can anyone tell me if CS have fixed the 'descent issue' yet (the issue where upon reducing the throttle to flight idle the airspeed drops rapidly but aircraft does not descend as expected, nose down attitude - airspeed still drops etc)?

The autopilot pitch control does nothing at all.

It's unfortunate that I have to say the autopilot is much worse than it was before. Even the unmodified 2.2 Autopilot was better than this.

I was horrified when I was lining up with the ILS and switched over to AUTO G/S the plane just nosed up vertically like a rocket. I had to turn of the AP and take manual control.

It looks like I might be better off going back to 2.2 and to using the mods that Matt so kindly provided.

{SIGH}

Mark

Hi,
Is there a way to make the 727 fly and follow a MS Flight plan ? I was looking for a gps guidance switch somewhere ala C-130 but didn't found any. Can you only navigate by VOR / ADF in this baby ?

Thx

fowler wrote on Dec 28^th, 2009 at 11:56am:


Check my posts in this thread...listed two different ways to install a NAV/GPS button to the AP and/or GPS 2D windows:

http://www.captainsim.org/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1241693949

So, about the lack of cockpit sounds that people are talking in the new patch, can CS say something??

I got the new patch but i´m not sure if it´s ok to install it, as all the reply´s above are talking about some problems.

Thanks  and happy new year!!

Thank you for the quick answer!!!
I´ll check it out.

Thanks Matt, will give it a try.  I always do my flight plans VOR to VOR but I don't want to actually have to tune for each VOR and sit in front of my PC during the whole flight, I'm normally there only for SID and STAR and the remaining I watch the flight progress from time to time while watching the telly 

BTW I have no 2D cockpit view with 2.4 and had the same with 2.3 ? I'coming from version 1.1 I guess.

Hello,
Besides SoundOffWhenSimIsSlew=0, have you ever tryed reloading the aircraft on ground? With 2.3 I have to do that in order to get the systems sounds, maybe weird but effective.
Alex

fowler wrote on Dec 28^th, 2009 at 7:20pm:


There is no 2D main panel.

http://www.captainsim.org/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1239807364

Yep too bad for the 2D panel, anyway not using it too much either 

Just had to report that your mod for GPS tracking seems to work fine also for latest 2.3 release, thanks that's brillant !

Richard Portier wrote on Dec 29^th, 2009 at 12:18pm:


Richard -

For the "Dont Sink" issue - try changing the GPWS section to look like this:

[GPWS]
max_warning_height = 1200
sink_rate_fpm = -1500
excessive_sink_rate_fpm = -2000
climbout_sink_rate_fpm = -1500
flap_and_gear_sink_rate_fpm= -1500.

I think the problem is that on approach, the CapSim climbout sink rate of -100 trips the GPWS.

Please let us know if this works for you...worked for me.  The other option is to kill the GPWS entirely by changing the section to:


[GPWS]
max_warning_height = -1 //disable integral FSX GPWS

Richard Portier wrote on Dec 29^th, 2009 at 1:10pm:


No, you're right...ideally you should be able to set the GPWS climbout warning rate at -100, but I think that is what is causing the constant "Dont Sink" for the Captain Sim aircraft. The cost of this workaround is that the GPWS won't do much to help you if you sink during your climbout.

If you find a better way let us know!

i made new CameraDefinition.xxx that can be helpful once copied to 727 aircraft.cfg file :

As I fly in VirtualCockpit view (not Captain Seat), I insert a very first CameraDefinition.000 that makes easy to read the EPR gauges :

[CameraDefinition.000]
Title = "Gauges Moteurs"  //this is french...
Guid = {AF7B06BC-6A5C-5098-B6E9-E4A0932D9F11}
Origin = Virtual Cockpit
MomentumEffect = YES
SnapPbhAdjust = Swivel
SnapPbhReturn = False
PanPbhAdjust = Swivel
PanPbhReturn = False
Track = None
ShowAxis = YES
AllowZoom = TRUE
InitialZoom = .5
SmoothZoomTime = 2.0
ZoomPanScalar = 1.0
ShowWeather = Yes
XyzAdjust = TRUE
ShowLensFlare=FALSE
Category = Cockpit
PitchPanRate=20
HeadingPanRate=60
InitialXyz=0.5, -0.4, 0.4
InitialPbh=0, 0, 0

Same here for the overhead panel :

[CameraDefinition.00X] //<-- depending of your Cameradefinition position
Title = "Panneau Suppérieur" //<-- french again...
Guid = {93EA964A-D1F4-4AD0-9E94-33ED9EB79079}
Origin = Virtual Cockpit
MomentumEffect = YES
SnapPbhAdjust = Swivel
SnapPbhReturn = False
PanPbhAdjust = Swivel
PanPbhReturn = False
Track = None
ShowAxis = YES
AllowZoom = TRUE
InitialZoom = .5
SmoothZoomTime = 2.0
ZoomPanScalar = 1.0
ShowWeather = Yes
XyzAdjust = TRUE
ShowLensFlare=FALSE
Category = Cockpit
PitchPanRate=20
HeadingPanRate=60
InitialXyz=0.5, 0, 0            //0.45, -0.25, -0.10 (previous values)
InitialPbh=-45.0, 0, 0            //-45.0, 5, 5

and one new for the flight engineer panel :

[CameraDefinition.00X]
Title = "Ingénieur de Bord"
Guid = {C5F2306E-A4D9-4F36-B984-8085F0B9C35C}
Origin = Virtual Cockpit
MomentumEffect = YES
SnapPbhAdjust = Swivel
SnapPbhReturn = False
PanPbhAdjust = Swivel
PanPbhReturn = False
Track = None
ShowAxis = YES
AllowZoom = TRUE
InitialZoom = .5
SmoothZoomTime = 2.0
ZoomPanScalar = 1.0
ShowWeather = Yes
XyzAdjust = TRUE
ShowLensFlare=FALSE
Category = Cockpit
PitchPanRate=20
HeadingPanRate=60
InitialXyz=0.60, 0.05, -0.80      //0.60, 0.05, -0.70 (previous values)
InitialPbh=0, 0, 90            //15, 0, 90

make sure your cameradefinition.numbers are well sorted :
cameradefinition.000 -> EPR Gauges
cameradefinition.001 -> Captain
cameradefinition.002 -> First Officer
and so on

enjoy

I tried the temporary fix.  Using the pitch control now makes the yoke wildly oscillate back and forth.  I am going back to 2.2 again. Sigh.

I downloaded the complete 2.3 installer yesterday, and when prompted by the installer I selected repair. Updated very nicely all works no sound issues, no "Don't sink". Altimeter works, tail light on 727-200, is now corrected, Autopilot works like the real plane, (very limited). What great sim plane, it has become my favorite plane to fly! I only use autopilot, once I have hand flown the plane to alitude, then set VOR or heading to stay on course. Once I reach TD I shut off the autopilot and hand fly the decent and approach. This a real stick and rudder plane, and the joy I get out of it, is piloting it. Captain Sim did you change the force feedback settings? The plane has become very heavy on the controls, just as, I would assume it is in the real world. Anyways it feels very realistic, a handfull to fly in rough weather, and I'm loving it! Bob

josephsevern wrote on Jan 13^th, 2010 at 7:16am:


From what I understand that is the only way to get the update from 2.2 to 2.3 is to download the whole installer then perform a repair when you run it. Or you would completely uninstall all your 727 products and then run the installed as a new install.

I couldn't find a way to just download a seperate update from 2.2 to 2.3.

ok bob

that's what i did before
but SP 2.3 not fully working with my FSX vista 32 SP2 configuration and makes the bird rather unflyable. So i get back to SP 2.2 until next more acurate update...