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Re: 727 Service Pack 2.3
Reply #30 - Dec 28th, 2009 at 7:32pm
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I have tried all suggestions from the KB sound fix and still no sounds. Was this update even tested before release, and if so, what system are you guys using? I know many flight simmers use windows XP 64 bit because it is the fastest version of windows with no limit on RAM.
  

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Re: 727 Service Pack 2.3
Reply #31 - Dec 28th, 2009 at 8:21pm
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Hello,
Besides SoundOffWhenSimIsSlew=0, have you ever tryed reloading the aircraft on ground? With 2.3 I have to do that in order to get the systems sounds, maybe weird but effective.
Alex
  
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Re: 727 Service Pack 2.3
Reply #32 - Dec 28th, 2009 at 9:08pm
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alexcolka wrote on Dec 28th, 2009 at 8:21pm:
Hello,
Besides SoundOffWhenSimIsSlew=0, have you ever tryed reloading the aircraft on ground? With 2.3 I have to do that in order to get the systems sounds, maybe weird but effective.
Alex


Same here...once the flight comes up  I do a quick Flight>Reset and the sounds work fine. The altitude alerter knob is what I check...if it clicks I know I'm good.
  
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Re: 727 Service Pack 2.3
Reply #33 - Dec 28th, 2009 at 9:10pm
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fowler wrote on Dec 28th, 2009 at 7:20pm:
BTW I have no 2D cockpit view with 2.4 and had the same with 2.3 ? I'coming from version 1.1 I guess.


There is no 2D main panel.

http://www.captainsim.org/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1239807364
  
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Re: 727 Service Pack 2.3
Reply #34 - Dec 28th, 2009 at 11:33pm
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Hi everybody!
Same issue for me after installing v 2.3!
Sound appears only after reloading the aircraft once, plus:
The MS Garmin GPS doesn´t work anymore...
Greets,
Michael
  

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Re: 727 Service Pack 2.3
Reply #35 - Dec 28th, 2009 at 11:54pm
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Yep too bad for the 2D panel, anyway not using it too much either  Grin

Just had to report that your mod for GPS tracking seems to work fine also for latest 2.3 release, thanks that's brillant !
  
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Re: 727 Service Pack 2.3
Reply #36 - Dec 29th, 2009 at 12:18pm
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Matt2218 wrote on Dec 28th, 2009 at 9:08pm:
alexcolka wrote on Dec 28th, 2009 at 8:21pm:
Hello,
Besides SoundOffWhenSimIsSlew=0, have you ever tryed reloading the aircraft on ground? With 2.3 I have to do that in order to get the systems sounds, maybe weird but effective.
Alex


Same here...once the flight comes up  I do a quick Flight>Reset and the sounds work fine. The altitude alerter knob is what I check...if it clicks I know I'm good.


Hello,

The same here too. I have not modified "SoundOffWhenSimIsSlew", just reloaded the bird.

For me the problems concern now :

-AutoPilot pitch problem (good news Captain seems to have found with the Acceleration issue)
-Don't sink call problem during approach

Anyway I love this "dirty" plane, I hope it will be fixed soon.  Wink

Thank you.

Regards.

Richard Portier

  

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Re: 727 Service Pack 2.3
Reply #37 - Dec 29th, 2009 at 12:24pm
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Richard Portier wrote on Dec 29th, 2009 at 12:18pm:
Matt2218 wrote on Dec 28th, 2009 at 9:08pm:
alexcolka wrote on Dec 28th, 2009 at 8:21pm:
Hello,
Besides SoundOffWhenSimIsSlew=0, have you ever tryed reloading the aircraft on ground? With 2.3 I have to do that in order to get the systems sounds, maybe weird but effective.
Alex


Same here...once the flight comes up  I do a quick Flight>Reset and the sounds work fine. The altitude alerter knob is what I check...if it clicks I know I'm good.


Hello,

The same here too. I have not modified "SoundOffWhenSimIsSlew", just reloaded the bird.

For me the problems concern now :

-AutoPilot pitch problem (good news Captain seems to have found with the Acceleration issue)
-Don't sink call problem during approach

Anyway I love this "dirty" plane, I hope it will be fixed soon.  Wink

Thank you.

Regards.

Richard Portier



Richard -

For the "Dont Sink" issue - try changing the GPWS section to look like this:

[GPWS]
max_warning_height = 1200
sink_rate_fpm = -1500
excessive_sink_rate_fpm = -2000
climbout_sink_rate_fpm = -1500
flap_and_gear_sink_rate_fpm= -1500.

I think the problem is that on approach, the CapSim climbout sink rate of -100 trips the GPWS.

Please let us know if this works for you...worked for me.  The other option is to kill the GPWS entirely by changing the section to:


[GPWS]
max_warning_height = -1 //disable integral FSX GPWS
  
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Re: 727 Service Pack 2.3
Reply #38 - Dec 29th, 2009 at 1:10pm
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Matt2218 wrote on Dec 29th, 2009 at 12:24pm:
Richard Portier wrote on Dec 29th, 2009 at 12:18pm:
Matt2218 wrote on Dec 28th, 2009 at 9:08pm:
alexcolka wrote on Dec 28th, 2009 at 8:21pm:
Hello,
Besides SoundOffWhenSimIsSlew=0, have you ever tryed reloading the aircraft on ground? With 2.3 I have to do that in order to get the systems sounds, maybe weird but effective.
Alex


Same here...once the flight comes up  I do a quick Flight>Reset and the sounds work fine. The altitude alerter knob is what I check...if it clicks I know I'm good.


Hello,

The same here too. I have not modified "SoundOffWhenSimIsSlew", just reloaded the bird.

For me the problems concern now :

-AutoPilot pitch problem (good news Captain seems to have found with the Acceleration issue)
-Don't sink call problem during approach

Anyway I love this "dirty" plane, I hope it will be fixed soon.  Wink

Thank you.

Regards.

Richard Portier



Richard -

For the "Dont Sink" issue - try changing the GPWS section to look like this:

[GPWS]
max_warning_height = 1200
sink_rate_fpm = -1500
excessive_sink_rate_fpm = -2000
climbout_sink_rate_fpm = -1500
flap_and_gear_sink_rate_fpm= -1500.

I think the problem is that on approach, the CapSim climbout sink rate of -100 trips the GPWS.

Please let us know if this works for you...worked for me.  The other option is to kill the GPWS entirely by changing the section to:


[GPWS]
max_warning_height = -1 //disable integral FSX GPWS



Thank you Matt for your answer. It works for me but I'm not sure that is the correct way (change the climbout_sink_rate_fpm)...

In the Microsoft ESP SDK overview they wrote about climbout_sink_rate_fpm :

"If an aircraft starts to descend during takeoff, and exceeds this rate of descent, a warning is activated." Many aircraft have this parameter at -100 (seem logical for me).

Am'I wrong ?

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Re: 727 Service Pack 2.3
Reply #39 - Dec 29th, 2009 at 2:47pm
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Richard Portier wrote on Dec 29th, 2009 at 1:10pm:
Matt2218 wrote on Dec 29th, 2009 at 12:24pm:
Richard Portier wrote on Dec 29th, 2009 at 12:18pm:
Matt2218 wrote on Dec 28th, 2009 at 9:08pm:
alexcolka wrote on Dec 28th, 2009 at 8:21pm:
Hello,
Besides SoundOffWhenSimIsSlew=0, have you ever tryed reloading the aircraft on ground? With 2.3 I have to do that in order to get the systems sounds, maybe weird but effective.
Alex


Same here...once the flight comes up  I do a quick Flight>Reset and the sounds work fine. The altitude alerter knob is what I check...if it clicks I know I'm good.


Hello,

The same here too. I have not modified "SoundOffWhenSimIsSlew", just reloaded the bird.

For me the problems concern now :

-AutoPilot pitch problem (good news Captain seems to have found with the Acceleration issue)
-Don't sink call problem during approach

Anyway I love this "dirty" plane, I hope it will be fixed soon.  Wink

Thank you.

Regards.

Richard Portier



Richard -

For the "Dont Sink" issue - try changing the GPWS section to look like this:

[GPWS]
max_warning_height = 1200
sink_rate_fpm = -1500
excessive_sink_rate_fpm = -2000
climbout_sink_rate_fpm = -1500
flap_and_gear_sink_rate_fpm= -1500.

I think the problem is that on approach, the CapSim climbout sink rate of -100 trips the GPWS.

Please let us know if this works for you...worked for me.  The other option is to kill the GPWS entirely by changing the section to:


[GPWS]
max_warning_height = -1 //disable integral FSX GPWS



Thank you Matt for your answer. It works for me but I'm not sure that is the correct way (change the climbout_sink_rate_fpm)...

In the Microsoft ESP SDK overview they wrote about climbout_sink_rate_fpm :

"If an aircraft starts to descend during takeoff, and exceeds this rate of descent, a warning is activated." Many aircraft have this parameter at -100 (seem logical for me).

Am'I wrong ?

Regards.

Richard Portier



No, you're right...ideally you should be able to set the GPWS climbout warning rate at -100, but I think that is what is causing the constant "Dont Sink" for the Captain Sim aircraft. The cost of this workaround is that the GPWS won't do much to help you if you sink during your climbout.

If you find a better way let us know!
  
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Re: 727 Service Pack 2.3
Reply #40 - Dec 29th, 2009 at 4:48pm
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hi everyone
Despite captainsim's 727 a great plane  Smiley, SP 2.3 :
- no altimeter sound
- AP pitch control inoperative
and so on

As Michael2, I never had a problem with AP SP2.2. It works perfectly fine. Notwithstanding, I have to say catching the GS is far from easy...
I had to go back completely to 2.2 too.... Cry

by the way, did anyone notice the plane is moving by himself (very slowly) while grounded, parking break set and engines on (no thrust applied of course) ? Shocked
  
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Re: 727 Service Pack 2.3
Reply #41 - Dec 29th, 2009 at 5:19pm
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i made new CameraDefinition.xxx that can be helpful once copied to 727 aircraft.cfg file :

As I fly in VirtualCockpit view (not Captain Seat), I insert a very first CameraDefinition.000 that makes easy to read the EPR gauges :

[CameraDefinition.000]
Title = "Gauges Moteurs"  //this is french... Wink
Guid = {AF7B06BC-6A5C-5098-B6E9-E4A0932D9F11}
Origin = Virtual Cockpit
MomentumEffect = YES
SnapPbhAdjust = Swivel
SnapPbhReturn = False
PanPbhAdjust = Swivel
PanPbhReturn = False
Track = None
ShowAxis = YES
AllowZoom = TRUE
InitialZoom = .5
SmoothZoomTime = 2.0
ZoomPanScalar = 1.0
ShowWeather = Yes
XyzAdjust = TRUE
ShowLensFlare=FALSE
Category = Cockpit
PitchPanRate=20
HeadingPanRate=60
InitialXyz=0.5, -0.4, 0.4
InitialPbh=0, 0, 0

Same here for the overhead panel :

[CameraDefinition.00X] //<-- depending of your Cameradefinition position
Title = "Panneau Suppérieur" //<-- french again...
Guid = {93EA964A-D1F4-4AD0-9E94-33ED9EB79079}
Origin = Virtual Cockpit
MomentumEffect = YES
SnapPbhAdjust = Swivel
SnapPbhReturn = False
PanPbhAdjust = Swivel
PanPbhReturn = False
Track = None
ShowAxis = YES
AllowZoom = TRUE
InitialZoom = .5
SmoothZoomTime = 2.0
ZoomPanScalar = 1.0
ShowWeather = Yes
XyzAdjust = TRUE
ShowLensFlare=FALSE
Category = Cockpit
PitchPanRate=20
HeadingPanRate=60
InitialXyz=0.5, 0, 0            //0.45, -0.25, -0.10 (previous values)
InitialPbh=-45.0, 0, 0            //-45.0, 5, 5

and one new for the flight engineer panel :

[CameraDefinition.00X]
Title = "Ingénieur de Bord"
Guid = {C5F2306E-A4D9-4F36-B984-8085F0B9C35C}
Origin = Virtual Cockpit
MomentumEffect = YES
SnapPbhAdjust = Swivel
SnapPbhReturn = False
PanPbhAdjust = Swivel
PanPbhReturn = False
Track = None
ShowAxis = YES
AllowZoom = TRUE
InitialZoom = .5
SmoothZoomTime = 2.0
ZoomPanScalar = 1.0
ShowWeather = Yes
XyzAdjust = TRUE
ShowLensFlare=FALSE
Category = Cockpit
PitchPanRate=20
HeadingPanRate=60
InitialXyz=0.60, 0.05, -0.80      //0.60, 0.05, -0.70 (previous values)
InitialPbh=0, 0, 90            //15, 0, 90

make sure your cameradefinition.numbers are well sorted :
cameradefinition.000 -> EPR Gauges
cameradefinition.001 -> Captain
cameradefinition.002 -> First Officer
and so on

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Re: 727 Service Pack 2.3
Reply #42 - Dec 30th, 2009 at 1:23pm
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Michael2 wrote on Dec 28th, 2009 at 7:39am:
The autopilot pitch control does nothing at all.


Temporary fix is available. Those who experience the issue (this are those who do not have MS Acceleration installed) please check-in to Your Profile  and use Customer Support > Search KB > KB# 4897.
  
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Re: 727 Service Pack 2.3
Reply #43 - Dec 31st, 2009 at 6:31am
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I tried the temporary fix.  Using the pitch control now makes the yoke wildly oscillate back and forth.  I am going back to 2.2 again. Sigh.
  
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Re: 727 Service Pack 2.3
Reply #44 - Dec 31st, 2009 at 1:59pm
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Well at least is a fix. It's not perfect but works.
Good part are;
a) CaptainSim gave us a temp fix before going on vacations (Happy new year!!!! )
b) it is a TEMP fix, so we can expect better one!!!  Wink

  

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