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pa34pilot Full Member Offline Posts: 25 Location: Canada Joined: Aug 22^nd, 2009	767 Autoland Aug 22^nd, 2009 at 5:26pm	Print Post
	On ILS approach (to any airport) when I engage the APP mode (I am below G/S to intercept) the 767 starts to wander back and forth making wild bank angles! �All three CMD lights are on and LAND 3 is illuminated. The airplane is unable to autoland due to the wild attitudes close to the ground Am I missing something, or is this an issue with the CS 767? THX


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DMullert Full Member Offline Posts: 77 Joined: May 20^th, 2009	Re: 767 Autoland Reply #1 - Aug 22^nd, 2009 at 7:05pm	Print Post
	Hello! I believe it is an issue. The 767, when on autoland, once the three lights engage, it is supposed to automatically manage flaps/power/gear deployment, arm the spoilers, and set the autobrake system. I have shot several CAT3 approaches using the so called "autoland" and it does none of those functions. Maybe I am missing somethign or perhaps, not following some internal procedure right. On the another company 767 the autoland works flawlessly, doing all fo these functions. Flare is an issue, but it does it all well. I still need to mess around some more of the CS767 to see if I can get it to behave the way it's supposed to. I like this aircraft - in fact, I de-installed my another company and currently using the CS 767 - so we'll see what these guys can do with 1.2. I have noticed that CS support has improved, so keeping fingers crossed. Dennis


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Trailboss Full Member Offline Posts: 231 Joined: Nov 30^th, 2008 Gender:	Re: 767 Autoland Reply #2 - Aug 22^nd, 2009 at 7:56pm	Print Post
	PA34Pilot, I had the same problem with rolling on the localizer course. Check out these postings in this same CS 767 forum section: http://www.captainsim.org/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1247843334 Simple changes to the aircraft.cfg file eliminated the rolling. As for DMullert's post about Autoland operating the flaps and gear and airspeed, I didn't think it was supposed to perform functions apart from holding glide slope and localizer. You will have to read the manuals to clarify this point.


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Tim Capps Senior Member Offline Defense Lawyer & US Navy JAG (ret), Writer Posts: 1070 Location: Southern Illinois Joined: May 21^st, 2009	Re: 767 Autoland Reply #3 - Aug 22^nd, 2009 at 11:02pm	Print Post
	>>The 767, when on autoland, once the three lights engage, it is supposed to automatically manage flaps/power/gear deployment, arm the spoilers, and set the autobrake system<< You sure about all that?

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DMullert Full Member Offline Posts: 77 Joined: May 20^th, 2009	Re: 767 Autoland Reply #4 - Aug 23^rd, 2009 at 12:19am	Print Post
	Yes! In real-life, it is supposed to perform these functions. In fact, in real-life, the autoland flares and lands the aircraft, and it also slows it down. The LVD767 does it. I know a 767 Captain from AAL and I have confirmed this infromation with him as well. No big deal if the CS 767 can't perform these functions, as this is simply a simulation, but it would be nice to know exactly what to expect. Still a great addon. Dennis


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DMullert Full Member Offline Posts: 77 Joined: May 20^th, 2009	Re: 767 Autoland Reply #5 - Aug 23^rd, 2009 at 12:23am	Print Post
	Great link Trailboss. I'm going to give it a try. Thanks for the hint! Dennis


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pa34pilot Full Member Offline Posts: 25 Location: Canada Joined: Aug 22^nd, 2009	Re: 767 Autoland Reply #6 - Aug 23^rd, 2009 at 2:45am	Print Post
	thanks for the link trailboss - I`ll give it a try and post results. I have the 767 Air Canada manual, and there is no reference to AUTOLAND setting flaps and spoilers. The one thing that the real 767 has that the sim doesn`t is 3 CWS switches which are directly underneath the 3 CMD switches. I wonder if CS plans on adding this in a future release. Other than the other issues mentioned in other threads, I am extremely impressed with this product, along with the 727 which I also have. I look forward to the next SP. I`d be curious if anyone else has had a successful-normal AUTOLAND in the 767 without modifying the cfg file.


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pa34pilot Full Member Offline Posts: 25 Location: Canada Joined: Aug 22^nd, 2009	Re: 767 Autoland Reply #7 - Aug 23^rd, 2009 at 3:42pm	Print Post
	Made the changes as suggested and it seems to have solved the problem! The only issue I noted was the AP lost the glide slope at short final, regained it and put me half way down the runway. I will have to play around with this some more. Thanks for the advice!


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Trailboss Full Member Offline Posts: 231 Joined: Nov 30^th, 2008 Gender:	Re: 767 Autoland Reply #8 - Aug 23^rd, 2009 at 7:28pm	Print Post
	pa34pilot, I've had that same experience where the autoland brings the plane in too high. Of all the approaches I have made, about half of them come in too high and I have to either disconnect the AP/FD and dive for the runway or go around. The other 50% of the approaches are spot on and touch down right on the numbers. If you find the cause, let me know.


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