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dougal Full Member Offline Posts: 128 Joined: Dec 29^th, 2007	Trim wheel Adjustments Apr 27^th, 2009 at 12:54pm	Print Post
	Hi guys Is it just me, or is the trim wheel ULTRA sensitive on this bird? I have it mapped to the left rocker button on the CH yoke, and I only have to breathe on the switch to overshoot what i want.

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JayG Senior Member Offline Posts: 330 Joined: Jan 12^th, 2007	Re: Trim wheel Adjustments Reply #1 - Apr 27^th, 2009 at 5:09pm	Print Post
	ULTRA is an understatement! If I just eyeball it, it overcorrects.

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Bob Markey Full Member Offline FS Addict Posts: 216 Location: Texas Joined: Jan 29^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Trim wheel Adjustments Reply #2 - May 7^th, 2009 at 9:24pm	Print Post
	I will say this about the trim. It's better in the first SP than it was in the original release. Look on right side of the TQ, near the FO's trim wheel. There is an alternative trim switches in the panel there, try them. They move it much slower. For me, I find that I am able to trim to any speed in climb/descent with the regular trim wheel assignment on my yoke and a little bit of correction input at the yoke itself. But, to get in a level flight, I always have to set the AP to Alt Hold. Once it has trimmed, I can typically take off the AP again and stay in my plan alt very easy flying hands on, so long as I don't touch the trim.

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wsciutti Full Member Offline Posts: 81 Joined: Mar 14^th, 2009	Re: Trim wheel Adjustments Reply #3 - Jun 27^th, 2009 at 5:11pm	Print Post
	As a matter of fact, this is the way we actually trimmed this bird on a flight. Jack S TWA F/E

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JETPILOT Full Member Offline Posts: 87 Joined: Mar 11^th, 2009	Re: Trim wheel Adjustments Reply #4 - Jul 8^th, 2009 at 11:11am	Print Post
	The high speed stab trim actuated by the trim switches on the wheel operates in 2 speed modes. When the flaps are lowered the trim speed is approx twice as fast as when the flaps are retracted. The high speed trim in this plane is way too sensetive and is no way realistic. It also only operates in one speed regardless of flap position. The cruise trim on the pedestal is accurate. But when departing or landing we rely on the high speed wheel trim and it's almost impossibel to trim this plane correctly. The changes in trim are too drastic. I wish this would be addressed. But the request so far has been denied. It sucks becasue that would make the plane perfect in my opinion. It just sucks to fly the way it is.


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soldano Full Member Offline Posts: 48 Joined: Apr 20^th, 2009	Re: Trim wheel Adjustments Reply #5 - Jul 11^th, 2009 at 2:07am	Print Post
	JETPILOT wrote on Jul 8^th, 2009 at 11:11am: The high speed stab trim actuated by the trim switches on the wheel operates in 2 speed modes. When the flaps are lowered the trim speed is approx twice as fast as when the flaps are retracted. The high speed trim in this plane is way too sensetive and is no way realistic. It also only operates in one speed regardless of flap position. The cruise trim on the pedestal is accurate. But when departing or landing we rely on the high speed wheel trim and it's almost impossibel to trim this plane correctly. The changes in trim are too drastic. I wish this would be addressed. But the request so far has been denied. It sucks becasue that would make the plane perfect in my opinion. It just sucks to fly the way it is. I think there is way to tune in FSX the trim response, but dont remember how.-


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JETPILOT Full Member Offline Posts: 87 Joined: Mar 11^th, 2009	Re: Trim wheel Adjustments Reply #6 - Jul 11^th, 2009 at 4:37am	Print Post
	soldano wrote on Jul 11^th, 2009 at 2:07am: JETPILOT wrote on Jul 8^th, 2009 at 11:11am: The high speed stab trim actuated by the trim switches on the wheel operates in 2 speed modes. When the flaps are lowered the trim speed is approx twice as fast as when the flaps are retracted. The high speed trim in this plane is way too sensetive and is no way realistic. It also only operates in one speed regardless of flap position. The cruise trim on the pedestal is accurate. But when departing or landing we rely on the high speed wheel trim and it's almost impossibel to trim this plane correctly. The changes in trim are too drastic. I wish this would be addressed. But the request so far has been denied. It sucks becasue that would make the plane perfect in my opinion. It just sucks to fly the way it is. I think there is way to tune in FSX the trim response, but dont remember how.- You can't adjsut the trim sensitivity in FSX. Even if you could it still doesn't model the two trim speed modes. What would also be nice is if the trim sound would be simulated. The trim in the 727 is very loud when it's in motion. If you ever heard it in action you'd be surpised how loud it is. EDIT: Here is a video I found on Youtube. You can hear the trim wheel in motion very clearly. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_ErZ1nakd0


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soldano Full Member Offline Posts: 48 Joined: Apr 20^th, 2009	Re: Trim wheel Adjustments Reply #7 - Jul 11^th, 2009 at 5:15pm	Print Post
	[I think there is way to tune in FSX the trim response, but dont remember how.- [/quote] You can't adjsut the trim sensitivity in FSX. Even if you could it still doesn't model the two trim speed modes. What would also be nice is if the trim sound would be simulated. The trim in the 727 is very loud when it's in motion. If you ever heard it in action you'd be surpised how loud it is. EDIT: Here is a video I found on Youtube. You can hear the trim wheel in motion very clearly. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_ErZ1nakd0 [/quote] Yes you can modify the trim response, in the aircraft.cfg there is a line: "elevator_trim_effectiveness = 1.00" which you can modify.- I set 0.30 and seems to work smoothly.-


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soldano Full Member Offline Posts: 48 Joined: Apr 20^th, 2009	Re: Trim wheel Adjustments Reply #8 - Jul 11^th, 2009 at 5:19pm	Print Post
	JETPILOT wrote on Jul 11^th, 2009 at 4:37am: soldano wrote on Jul 11^th, 2009 at 2:07am: JETPILOT wrote on Jul 8^th, 2009 at 11:11am: The high speed stab trim actuated by the trim switches on the wheel operates in 2 speed modes. When the flaps are lowered the trim speed is approx twice as fast as when the flaps are retracted. The high speed trim in this plane is way too sensetive and is no way realistic. It also only operates in one speed regardless of flap position. The cruise trim on the pedestal is accurate. But when departing or landing we rely on the high speed wheel trim and it's almost impossibel to trim this plane correctly. The changes in trim are too drastic. I wish this would be addressed. But the request so far has been denied. It sucks becasue that would make the plane perfect in my opinion. It just sucks to fly the way it is. I think there is way to tune in FSX the trim response, but dont remember how.- You can't adjsut the trim sensitivity in FSX. Even if you could it still doesn't model the two trim speed modes. What would also be nice is if the trim sound would be simulated. The trim in the 727 is very loud when it's in motion. If you ever heard it in action you'd be surpised how loud it is. EDIT: Here is a video I found on Youtube. You can hear the trim wheel in motion very clearly. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_ErZ1nakd0


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JETPILOT Full Member Offline Posts: 87 Joined: Mar 11^th, 2009	Re: Trim wheel Adjustments Reply #9 - Jul 12^th, 2009 at 7:10am	Print Post
	I am new to flight sim and didn't know you can modify it through the .cfg file. Wouldn't that mean having to modify the .cfg file every time I switch aircraft? If so that doesn't seem like a real solution. It's also not a solution for those that don't know how to modify .cfg files. If I pay alot of money for an aircraft I expect it to be an accurate simulation out of the box.


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soldano Full Member Offline Posts: 48 Joined: Apr 20^th, 2009	Re: Trim wheel Adjustments Reply #10 - Jul 12^th, 2009 at 12:45pm	Print Post
	JETPILOT wrote on Jul 12^th, 2009 at 7:10am: I am new to flight sim and didn't know you can modify it through the .cfg file. Wouldn't that mean having to modify the .cfg file every time I switch aircraft? If so that doesn't seem like a real solution. It's also not a solution for those that don't know how to modify .cfg files. If I pay alot of money for an aircraft I expect it to be an accurate simulation out of the box. I referred to the aircraft.cfg file, which is unique for each aircraft type.-


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JETPILOT Full Member Offline Posts: 87 Joined: Mar 11^th, 2009	Re: Trim wheel Adjustments Reply #11 - Jul 12^th, 2009 at 5:21pm	Print Post
	Oh.... OK. I tried to change it in my .cfg file and it didn't work for some reason. I'm sure I'm doing something wrong.


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soldano Full Member Offline Posts: 48 Joined: Apr 20^th, 2009	Re: Trim wheel Adjustments Reply #12 - Jul 12^th, 2009 at 9:38pm	Print Post
	JETPILOT wrote on Jul 12^th, 2009 at 5:21pm: Oh.... OK. I tried to change it in my .cfg file and it didn't work for some reason. I'm sure I'm doing something wrong. Which .cfg are you referring at? It must be the aircraft.cfg which you can find within each aircraft folder.-


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