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Carter Full Member Offline Posts: 80 Joined: Jan 21^st, 2006	Showing off the real deal. Apr 22^nd, 2006 at 8:41pm	Print Post
	Just a few pics from today. -Paul


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Aaron6256 Full Member Offline Posts: 121 Joined: Nov 13^th, 2005	Re: Showing off the real deal. Reply #1 - Apr 22^nd, 2006 at 9:49pm	Print Post
	Nice shots. Thanks for sharing.

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Guns210 Full Member Offline Posts: 37 Joined: Nov 14^th, 2005	Re: Showing off the real deal. Reply #2 - Apr 23^rd, 2006 at 12:19pm	Print Post
	Hi Paul, Very cool!!! Thanks for sharing your pictures. Captain J.R., USN Ret. 4000+ hrs in the F-14 Tomcat

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Spiros Hazapis Full Member Offline Posts: 103 Location: Athens, Greece Joined: Nov 14^th, 2005 Gender:	Re: Showing off the real deal. Reply #3 - Jun 9^th, 2006 at 3:00pm	Print Post
	Hi, I don't suppose this is yet an other FSX preview, is it ? rgrds

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lanzecki Full Member Offline Posts: 14 Joined: May 12^th, 2006	Re: Showing off the real deal. Reply #4 - Jun 26^th, 2006 at 3:35pm	Print Post
	Hi, Nice pictures. Can someone explain the following : In the first picture : Is that a window removed/missing from the wind screen? Or just a trick of the light. And secondly : Why would you want to turn off the taxiway warning lights? Thanks in advance And in ignorance.


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David Sweetman Senior Member Offline Ex C-130 Aircraft Engineer Posts: 1457 Location: United Kingdom Joined: Nov 13^th, 2005 Gender:	Re: Showing off the real deal. Reply #5 - Jun 26^th, 2006 at 4:11pm	Print Post
	The window is just a trick of the light. On my unit we often work in black out conditions. This is for the use of night vision goggles. Dax


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Carter Full Member Offline Posts: 80 Joined: Jan 21^st, 2006	Re: Showing off the real deal. Reply #6 - Jun 26^th, 2006 at 10:23pm	Print Post
	lanzecki wrote on Jun 26^th, 2006 at 3:35pm: Hi, Nice pictures. Can someone explain the following : And secondly : Why would you want to turn off the taxiway warning lights? Thanks in advance And in ignorance. Those are for the rotating lights (kind of like a railroad crossing) that warn vehicles that there are approaching aircraft (there's two roads that cross the taxiway).


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lanzecki Full Member Offline Posts: 14 Joined: May 12^th, 2006	Re: Showing off the real deal. Reply #7 - Jun 27^th, 2006 at 10:59am	Print Post
	Dax, Carter, Thanks for the info. Interesting airport.


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Herc130 Full Member Offline Posts: 12 Joined: Feb 23^rd, 2007	Re: Showing off the real deal. Reply #8 - Feb 23^rd, 2007 at 11:28pm	Print Post
	Sorry to say, the 1710 crashed soon after this thread started. Not sure on the exact date, but the crash happened after I left my last unit in early jun and before I checked in to my new unit mid july. No deaths, just minor injuries.


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Carter Full Member Offline Posts: 80 Joined: Jan 21^st, 2006	Re: Showing off the real deal. Reply #9 - Feb 24^th, 2007 at 8:31pm	Print Post
	Here's some more pics to satisfy any curiosity. IIRC, It currently resides inside Hanger 3 in Kodiak.


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Spiros Hazapis Full Member Offline Posts: 103 Location: Athens, Greece Joined: Nov 14^th, 2005 Gender:	Re: Showing off the real deal. Reply #10 - Feb 24^th, 2007 at 8:37pm	Print Post
	Hi, any idea on the propable cause of this accident? regards

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Carter Full Member Offline Posts: 80 Joined: Jan 21^st, 2006	Re: Showing off the real deal. Reply #11 - Feb 24^th, 2007 at 9:53pm	Print Post
	It looked like props #1 and #2 were in reverse and #3 was either at ground or flight idle. By the looks of it, best guess would be that a low pitch stop failed to retract on the right side during throttle transition from flight idle to reverse on rollout.


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Spiros Hazapis Full Member Offline Posts: 103 Location: Athens, Greece Joined: Nov 14^th, 2005 Gender:	Re: Showing off the real deal. Reply #12 - Feb 25^th, 2007 at 9:07am	Print Post
	Hi again, do you guys have beta lights installed? I've heard that the EIDS without beta lights can be a dangerous combination (torque display is so heavily damped that confirming low pitch retraction can be next to impossible)... regards,

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polcat Full Member Offline Posts: 21 Joined: Dec 3^rd, 2005	Re: Showing off the real deal. Reply #13 - Feb 25^th, 2007 at 7:07pm	Print Post
	Should've waited a few more potatoes before going in reverse! You can never be too careful with those props, especially if landing distance isn't a factor.

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Carter Full Member Offline Posts: 80 Joined: Jan 21^st, 2006	Re: Showing off the real deal. Reply #14 - Feb 25^th, 2007 at 8:56pm	Print Post
	Quote: Hi again, do you guys have beta lights installed? No. No EIDS either, but I can imagine a damped digital display causing all sorts of issues like that.


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polcat Full Member Offline Posts: 21 Joined: Dec 3^rd, 2005	Re: Showing off the real deal. Reply #15 - Mar 1^st, 2007 at 1:59am	Print Post
	Did you know that one of the variables for computing max effort landing ground roll (i.e. assault landing) is that it should take one second to go from landing attitude to nose wheel on the ground and also full reverse (if computing 4 reverse and not 2 reverse/2 ground idle)! Needless to say, we still wait a potato before going over the hump, albeit a small potato

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P3_Super_Bee Full Member Offline Posts: 19 Joined: Feb 26^th, 2007	Re: Showing off the real deal. Reply #16 - Mar 1^st, 2007 at 8:15pm	Print Post
	Wow, not a good day there. Do they know if they are going to fly her again? Damage doesn't look to bad for a strike. But aren't all CG Hercs being replaced with the "J" model? Maybe Kodiak just gets a "J" earlier than expected?

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Carter Full Member Offline Posts: 80 Joined: Jan 21^st, 2006	Re: Showing off the real deal. Reply #17 - Mar 2^nd, 2007 at 7:35am	Print Post
	I think it's going to be up to Lockheed at this point to decide if it's salvageable. They could use a good spares store though. As for the 'J's, the only two are (last I knew) still in 'testing' down with AirSta E-City.


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P3_Super_Bee Full Member Offline Posts: 19 Joined: Feb 26^th, 2007	Re: Showing off the real deal. Reply #18 - Mar 2^nd, 2007 at 10:54am	Print Post
	Carter wrote on Mar 2^nd, 2007 at 7:35am: I think it's going to be up to Lockheed at this point to decide if it's salvageable. They could use a good spares store though. As for the 'J's, the only two are (last I knew) still in 'testing' down with AirSta E-City. OK still in the testing stage... Thanks for the info.

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Herc130 Full Member Offline Posts: 12 Joined: Feb 23^rd, 2007	Re: Showing off the real deal. Reply #19 - Mar 3^rd, 2007 at 12:11am	Print Post
	We're up to 6 C-130J's now. Think the 2006 was the last bird planned on for now. They even have externals on em now. Still no flight engineer seat I think. �E-City is going operational with the J's this summer was my understanding. At least 2 of the 15xx's (H's to us, but think the AF refers to them as "Super E's") are going to the bone yard in a month or two and whatever 15xx leftover from E-City (1..2? and the one 17xx (H's) they have on loan from Clearwater) when they make the switch will go to Clearwater/Sacto. and Barbers/Kodiak will remain with just 17xx's. The 1710 actually took structual damage and Lockheed may be able to fix it with alot of difficulties, but diffinently beyond our units abilities. Seen a bunch of pics of it being towed to the barge to get ferried back to Kodiak, was pretty interesting.


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Carter Full Member Offline Posts: 80 Joined: Jan 21^st, 2006	Re: Showing off the real deal. Reply #20 - Mar 3^rd, 2007 at 8:40am	Print Post
	(I painted the 2006 for the J... Externals now, I'll have to update things.) So there's six 'J's at the APO. Are they going to refit them with search windows, or just rely on electronics (I.E. - Casper)? What exactly are they adding as far as tac stations and comm suites on the flight deck?


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P3_Super_Bee Full Member Offline Posts: 19 Joined: Feb 26^th, 2007	Re: Showing off the real deal. Reply #21 - Mar 3^rd, 2007 at 12:36pm	Print Post
	Herc130 wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2007 at 12:11am: We're up to 6 C-130J's now. Think the 2006 was the last bird planned on for now. They even have externals on em now. Still no flight engineer seat I think. E-City is going operational with the J's this summer was my understanding. At least 2 of the 15xx's (H's to us, but think the AF refers to them as "Super E's") are going to the bone yard in a month or two and whatever 15xx leftover from E-City (1..2? and the one 17xx (H's) they have on loan from Clearwater) when they make the switch will go to Clearwater/Sacto. and Barbers/Kodiak will remain with just 17xx's. So the aircraft S/N's are also designator's? 15's =C-130E base model 17's =C-130H base model 20's =C-130J base model Didn't know that. What base closed awhile back allowing I know Barber's and I think Kodiak to pick up an extra 130? Can't remember, I know for the longest Barber's only had two 130's, and I seem to remember they closed a base to allow Barber's to pick up a 130 and a -65 as well(didn't actually close the base to give them aircraft, they picked the aircraft up because of the closure)... Or am I out to lunch?

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Herc130 Full Member Offline Posts: 12 Joined: Feb 23^rd, 2007	Re: Showing off the real deal. Reply #22 - Mar 3^rd, 2007 at 6:05pm	Print Post
	I think �since the windows aren't in yet, it's a done deal that it won't be fitted in later. Trooper doors have big square windows for scanning anyway. Casper....well for PIW searching, always best to get as many eyes out the plane and there is always the ramp and door if the scanner windows on the trooper doors get tiring. As far as I know, nav will now be TSO's as well, but that's tweet crap and all I wanna know from them is that they got the coffee and box lunches. �The SSO stuff will probably be moved forward right behind the 245, co-pilot side. Not sure on everything really, currently stationed in Barbers and have no intentions of ever going to J's myself. 15's are H's to us, but I think the Airforce refers to them as "Super E's". Pretty much, tey are the same as an H model except it �has a GTC instead of an APU as well as a few other things. No C-130 base has closed. �Barbers should have had 4 130's, but we had problems with PDM taing longer then they said they would, wingbox inspections, the 15xx's getting weight limited ( I think to 130,000) as well as a bird could have been deployed down south or to Guam, that yah you might only see 2 C-130s actually at the air station.


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Carter Full Member Offline Posts: 80 Joined: Jan 21^st, 2006	Re: Showing off the real deal. Reply #23 - Mar 3^rd, 2007 at 6:41pm	Print Post
	Borinquen? They're only down to helo's (it's been awhile).


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P3_Super_Bee Full Member Offline Posts: 19 Joined: Feb 26^th, 2007	Re: Showing off the real deal. Reply #24 - Mar 3^rd, 2007 at 8:35pm	Print Post
	Carter wrote on Mar 3^rd, 2007 at 6:41pm: Borinquen? They're only down to helo's (it's been awhile). Yeah, that may be it. It has been a while ago. at least 10/15 years ago...

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