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Autopilot?
Apr 20th, 2024 at 6:05pm
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apologies for posting this here (not able to start a new topic), anyone notice that having the crossfeeds open, seems to kill the engines wehn taking off? also got a second one, anyone notice that AP is a constant right roll of death or is it just me?
  
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Reply #1 - Apr 20th, 2024 at 5:41pm
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Nace42,
I did a short flight with Vor in AP and it worked very well. Maybe you touch by mistake the turn knob and it force the AP to turn the direction that knob are not centered.
  

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Reply #2 - Apr 20th, 2024 at 5:43pm
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@stavka 

interesting, all i did was mess with heading knob, and engage both AP and Alt switches and it just sends me on a death ride. its probably just me.....
  
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Reply #3 - Apr 20th, 2024 at 6:08pm
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edit: noticed that when cold and dark and ctrl+e to start up, the gyro pilot doesnt work correctly (right turn into full conrtol loss), but when spawning on the runway its fine and doesnt act up when engaged. is it something im missing or something in the .flt file that could be an issue?
  
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Reply #4 - Apr 21st, 2024 at 8:32am
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Reply #5 - Apr 20th, 2024 at 9:29pm
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ok i can confirm after some tinkering, theres a switch thats on in the runway.flt file that doesnt get set or turned to on in the CTRL+E start. for the record i put ALL the lvars in the runway.flt into the apron.flt and now the AP works without banking right into oblivion
  
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Reply #6 - Apr 21st, 2024 at 3:36am
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{ALL the lvars in the runway.flt into the apron.flt and now the AP works} Please explain in more detail ,where are these files ?
  
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Reply #7 - Apr 21st, 2024 at 12:39pm
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Reply #8 - Apr 21st, 2024 at 11:25am
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@starseed that solution only works for the cold and dark ctrl+e startup. which is due for some reason to the fact that not all switches get enabled as they should when you ctrl+e start. if your having the right turn into oblivion, i can guide you.
  
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Reply #9 - Apr 21st, 2024 at 3:22pm
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That would be great if you can help. What is causing this issue??

  
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Reply #10 - Apr 21st, 2024 at 3:31pm
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no real idea tbh, other than a hunch that we are missing something we need to turn on manually that doesnt get turned on via ctrl+e startup.


first step is you need visual studio (technically the file you open up can be opened via notepad, HOWEVER i have no idea if it saves the format correctly).

next would be to look at the screenshot attached, and find said file and open it (again i advise to use visual studio).

last step would be too copy these:

[LocalVars.0]
CS_FLT_TYPE=2
O05_023_GL3=2
O05_022_GL3=2
P12_001_SW3=1
O04_001_SW3=1
O04_002_SW3=1
O04_003_SW3=1
O04_004_SW3=1
R18_001_SW3=2
R18_002_SW3=2
P01_004_GL2=1
P04_004_GL2=1
L22_003_IND=31
m133_adiStartupPitch=1
m133_adiStartupBank=1
M05_002_LVR=50
M06_002_LVR=50
M07_002_LVR=50
M08_002_LVR=50
P19_001_GL4=1
S12_003_GL5=0


and find the match in the apron.flt and paste over them (you can copy those and highlight all the ones existing in the apron.flt file and paste it. should work).

i am no way at fault if you dont do it correctly, i would advise to change anything in there ONLY if you understand and know how it works as if done wrong, it can bork the aircraft. (apologies for the long post)
  

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Reply #11 - Apr 22nd, 2024 at 12:11am
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Hi there, the new complete C-130 is looking mighty fine, but there is no usable NAV detent around from the HDG detent so NAV cannot be selected to follow a GPS flightplan ?
  
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Reply #12 - Apr 22nd, 2024 at 12:40am
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Adrian wrote on Apr 22nd, 2024 at 12:11am:
Hi there, the new complete C-130 is looking mighty fine, but there is no usable NAV detent around from the HDG detent so NAV cannot be selected to follow a GPS flightplan ?


There's no GPS in this version of the Herc. You have to use manually tuned VORs/VORTACs.

The issues I'm having with the AP is following a VOR direction every few minutes it will reset the CRS to 351 from whatever it's set to. I have to constantly reset this on the flight plan. CS team - can we get that added to the bug list please?
  
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Reply #13 - Apr 22nd, 2024 at 5:54am
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Yeah had the same, the HSI would flick between the VOR
  
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Glideslope
Reply #14 - Apr 20th, 2024 at 7:17pm
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Can I just get a heads up regarding Glideslope, I can get aligned up with LOC but just can't catch it, I'm definitely missing something any help would be great. Cheers
  
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Re: Glideslope
Reply #15 - Apr 20th, 2024 at 7:20pm
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I bet I left the altitude control swith on
  
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Re: Glideslope
Reply #16 - Apr 21st, 2024 at 9:12am
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Thanks for adding the topic

I tried for w while yesterday to catch the GS but can only get it to LOC, but It could be the H doest have a GS

Was it implemented with your model?

Cheers Garuda
  
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Re: Glideslope
Reply #17 - Apr 21st, 2024 at 10:50am
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BTW I belong to a good Milsim group sent your link straight away and a few have purchased already, appreciate your work
  
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Reply #18 - Apr 21st, 2024 at 4:38pm
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Had a bash today still can't get the GS, will keep on with it
  
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Re: Glideslope
Reply #19 - Apr 22nd, 2024 at 2:34am
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GARUDA wrote on Apr 21st, 2024 at 4:38pm:
Had a bash today still can't get the GS, will keep on with it


The "AFF" position is the approach position for the AP. So on the dash you should be set to "VOR/ILS1", the flight director mode on "Auto", and on the pedestal the radio coordinator selector set to "AFF".

However I'm not confident it's working as it should. The "BLUE LEFT LOC" switch should make it follow the localizer but it doesn't it put the plan into wings level mode. The only mode I've found that will follow radio signals is the "RANGE/LOC" mode but the HSI direction resets every few minutes messing that up.

Maybe I'm doing something wrong too - but I don't think I am?
  
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Reply #20 - Apr 22nd, 2024 at 5:52am
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I definitely think it needs a look at, I did try these but only one that would line up was range LOC but definitely not catching glideslope, on some of the H models I did see below the AP there is 2 buttons for APP or NAV

If it has been tested and confirmed to work that would be great.
  
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Autopilot course not staying set
Reply #21 - Apr 22nd, 2024 at 2:28am
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Flying this afternoon has been a lot of fun. Seems to be a really solid first release here. Can't wait to see the improvements that are surely coming!

One major thing to report is the custom autopilot while working normally and well does this odd thing where suddent it will reset the course direction every couple of minutes. For instance I would supposed to be following and had set a course for 73 degree to the VOR station I was tracking. Then suddenly the course reset to 351 degree for no reason - which the plane then turns and follows.

Everytime it would do it, I would fix it - and within a few minutes it would repeat the same thing over and over. I tried toggling the autopilot on/off and reseting it. Didn't seem to clear it up at all.
  
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Reply #22 - Apr 22nd, 2024 at 3:15pm
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We'll double-check the AP and provide the reference materials.
  
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Reply #23 - Apr 22nd, 2024 at 5:42pm
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Reply #24 - Apr 22nd, 2024 at 5:52pm
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ok so worked the AP ILS out

very hands on and very fun

1 Make sure you are on AFF
2 Flight Director on NORMAL
3 ILS/VOR
4 You will need to constantly adjust the course bar to match the LOC , you will catch the GS then once you decide to take the plane its all yours


very fun very old school
  
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Reply #25 - Apr 22nd, 2024 at 9:22pm
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appreciate you double checking and guiding us CS <3
  
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Reply #26 - Apr 23rd, 2024 at 2:50am
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loading all the lvars.....really.....lol most of us aren't coders. The auto pilot works perfect with the exception that it won't capture the GS.....I'm hoping for an update....., but the power to pitch is really almost perfect so hand fly'in the approach is pretty cool. The auto pilot should work no matter how you start the plane.
  

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Reply #27 - Apr 23rd, 2024 at 11:09am
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@CaptnThud thats why i put only do it if you understand. but sure it works fine, but for whatever reason when you CTRL+E from cold start the AP soon as you kick it on without touching anything else, sends it into a right turn that ends up in an overbank turn straight into the ground 99/100 times. i know the AP works fine, just not when cold dark starting via ctrl+e as mentioned.
  
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Reply #28 - Apr 23rd, 2024 at 11:45am
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The death roll to the right is real when you start via ctrl+e, it's obviously not turning something on.....I haven't managed to get it to start manually either.....work'in on that.....
There's also a problem in the fuel system, but that's for a different forum
I would also like to add, this is an exceptionally well done piece of work well worth the money, and I'm sure these problems will be addressed
  

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Reply #29 - Apr 23rd, 2024 at 11:53am
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yep. the LVARS from the runway.flt moved to the apron.flt seemed to have solved the AP issue when starting via CTRL+E. 100% sure something isnt turning on. but yea i second theres a little funky things going on in the fuel system, when you do a ctrl+e start all crossfeeds open and when you try to take off with them all open, it bogs the engine down and causes the props to start going opposite of eachother rather then work in tandem and then you gotta resync and shut the crossfeeds off. these are the only bugs ive noticed (the ctrl+e AP start issue and the crossfeeds being open causing engine rpm to die)
  
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Reply #30 - Apr 23rd, 2024 at 12:08pm
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for the record, overall im very happy with it and really the AP is a medium sized issue (specially when it comes to marketplace, many will end up complaining about this issue), and really a super easy fix. but it doesnt take away from it for me. still amazing to fly all over in.
  
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Reply #31 - Apr 23rd, 2024 at 12:21pm
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It can't even follow the HDG selector.
  
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Reply #32 - Apr 23rd, 2024 at 1:40pm
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I figured out what I was doing wrong in the manual start, and got it running, taxied out, took off, and the auto pilot worked just fine
so the death roll problem is in the ctrl+E command
  

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Reply #33 - Apr 23rd, 2024 at 1:57pm
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$40 plane should have no A/P issues regardless of how you start the plane. Whether you start on RWY with engines running. Press Crtl + E on stand or follow the in-game checklist (which is wrong and if followed, you will end up losing all your engines after start).

  
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Reply #34 - Apr 23rd, 2024 at 1:58pm
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Is anyone besides myself having the HSI randomly swapping to a new course every few minutes. I think I saw one other person with this issue. CaptainSim hasn't acknowledged if he was looking into it or not.
  
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Reply #35 - Apr 23rd, 2024 at 3:08pm
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I managed to capture the glide slope. Put the rotary switch on the centre pedestal to AFF. Make sure you are below the GS with Altitude hold on. When the aircraft captures the GS the altitude hold disengages and the aircraft descends on the GS.
Hope that helps.
  
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Reply #36 - Apr 23rd, 2024 at 5:46pm
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Good day,

When I change the weight by adding more fuel the engines cut down engine power, cannot take off . I can only fly with less then 40% fuel .
  
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Reply #37 - Apr 23rd, 2024 at 10:03pm
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I can confirm that it does capture the glide slope when the autopilot switch is set to FSS
  

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Reply #38 - Apr 24th, 2024 at 10:55am
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Nace42 wrote on Apr 20th, 2024 at 6:08pm:
noticed that when cold and dark and ctrl+e to start up, the gyro pilot doesnt work correctly (right turn into full conrtol loss)

It's already fixed for the next update.
Untill then the temporary fix is the Bleed Air switches must be ON for all the eingines.
  
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Reply #39 - Apr 24th, 2024 at 11:07am
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appreciate it. good stuff!
  
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Reply #40 - Apr 24th, 2024 at 1:14pm
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Good day, I bought the c130 for fs2020 and it looks good. However, it is difficult to find the right mouse control for the spacious cockpit.
However, the autopilot altitude does work, but not by controlling my Logitech/Saitec Pro Flight Multi panel. Does anyone know a solution for this?
  
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Reply #41 - Apr 25th, 2024 at 4:49am
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After testing I have found that a profile I was using with SPAD appears to be making the HSI jump radials every few minutes. After dropping all addons and it still happening I shut off SPAD and it stuck where I set it. Once I restarted SPAD the radial jump. Creating a blank profile leave it alone. Resetting up all the controls it's still rock solid. So not sure what in the other profile (a generic one I use for multiple turbo props) is making it do it. But sourced the issue now......SO much nicer to fly now!
  
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Reply #42 - Apr 25th, 2024 at 5:21pm
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@Double There's no key stroke for altitude hold you have to click on the switch on the center consul the the right of the on off switch. I'm hoping that the keys will be added in an update.
  

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Reply #43 - Apr 25th, 2024 at 10:16pm
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There is another non functioning ADF which should be standard on this H type.  Huh
At this time I can’t get it to function.
Don’t know  if it is not simulated?
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Reply #44 - Apr 26th, 2024 at 3:25am
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CaptnThud wrote on Apr 23rd, 2024 at 1:40pm:
so the death roll problem is in the ctrl+E command

I didn't get a death roll after starting the engines using CTRL+E.

Note. If I follow the Checklist, the engines start (I never thought to look at the Checklist for the first half dozen flights I did, so I used CTRL+E). Cheesy
  

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Reply #45 - May 1st, 2024 at 1:43pm
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Where are the Autopilot switches ?
Does a tutorial exist ?
  
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