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Reply #15 - Jul 26th, 2021 at 1:50pm
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Mets737 wrote on Jul 26th, 2021 at 5:46am:
What is the chance of an updated 707 or 727 to come to P3D????

Same as for the 767 animated main cargo door. Zero.
  
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Reply #16 - Jul 27th, 2021 at 10:39pm
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DeeJay84 wrote on Jul 25th, 2021 at 9:41pm:
You've modeled animations for the cup holder, .... Are you really telling those people now it wasn't even worth modelling a freight door in a CF version?

The cup holder was done more than an year ago. In the current market even the limited 767-3CF Expansion release is a waste of time from the business point of view. The ONLY reason we doing that is because people have been waiting for the GE and the F for a long time.

DeeJay84 wrote on Jul 25th, 2021 at 9:41pm:
what on earth would have been the problem to make a proper GE expansion with a proper GE sound

Money. The 767-3CF Expansion sales won't cover even the sound licensing fees.
Anyone who can tell the diffence between the PW and GE sounds can buy the GE sound pack from third party developers.




  
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Re: The freighter story
Reply #17 - Jul 28th, 2021 at 6:03am
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Captain Sim wrote on Jul 26th, 2021 at 1:50pm:
Mets737 wrote on Jul 26th, 2021 at 5:46am:
What is the chance of an updated 707 or 727 to come to P3D????

Same as for the 767 animated main cargo door. Zero.



Well with that response, I'm sad to say that as a customer since the FSX days you have officially lost my business. You guys should take a few days off and look at what your recent decisions have done to your loyal customers. I wish you the best.
  

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Reply #18 - Jul 28th, 2021 at 12:55pm
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Sadly, it's one more company to tells us that current P3D sales don't even cover the costs.

That's the true reality.

As I moved to msfs, I'm not concerned anymore but if the future has to be msfs, then I hope CS will at least make some effort to give us nice products for that new sim.

Because sadly, even their low effort 777 probably brings more sales that what could have been a nice 767F in P3D.

  
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Re: The freighter story
Reply #19 - Jul 28th, 2021 at 3:05pm
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Captain Sim wrote on Jul 27th, 2021 at 10:39pm:
DeeJay84 wrote on Jul 25th, 2021 at 9:41pm:
You've modeled animations for the cup holder, .... Are you really telling those people now it wasn't even worth modelling a freight door in a CF version?

The cup holder was done more than an year ago. In the current market even the limited 767-3CF Expansion release is a waste of time from the business point of view. The ONLY reason we doing that is because people have been waiting for the GE and the F for a long time.

DeeJay84 wrote on Jul 25th, 2021 at 9:41pm:
what on earth would have been the problem to make a proper GE expansion with a proper GE sound

Money. The 767-3CF Expansion sales won't cover even the sound licensing fees.
Anyone who can tell the diffence between the PW and GE sounds can buy the GE sound pack from third party developers.






Terribly sorry that we as customers buying your product have inconvenienced you by wanting a product. Please do let us know what we can do to improve this situation and rectify it going forwards
  
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Re: The freighter story
Reply #20 - Jul 28th, 2021 at 3:16pm
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Cant even set any payload what so ever please fix
  
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Re: The freighter story
Reply #21 - Jul 29th, 2021 at 3:39am
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mike229 wrote on Jul 28th, 2021 at 3:16pm:
Cant even set any payload what so ever please fix

On the CDU click on MENU > Setup > Fuel and Payload > Go to Page 3/3

Cargo Forward (LSK4L)
Cargo Aft / Bulk (LSK5L)

If you select PAX/C CFG (LSK5R) it shows the maximum weights for each section. You can change them there if you want to.

If you look at the attached image (taken in P3Dv4, but it's the same in P3Dv5), that with the weights I've entered, the 767-3CF is at 411.9k pounds (MTOW for the 767-300ER is 412,000 lb), so with full fuel, it's almost at MTOW.
  

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Re: The freighter story
Reply #22 - Jul 31st, 2021 at 6:25pm
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Captain Sim wrote on Jul 27th, 2021 at 10:39pm:
Money. The 767-3CF Expansion sales won't cover even the sound licensing fees.
Anyone who can tell the diffence between the PW and GE sounds can buy the GE sound pack from third party developers.


OK, I get that thing with the sound. Indeed, it doesn't matter weather we purchase it at TSS for 15€ or you include it and sell the pack for 15€ more... just thought, you might get it a bit cheaper when included in a package because of volume sales.. but OK, because that's something that customers can do for themselves.

Captain Sim wrote on Jul 27th, 2021 at 10:39pm:
The cup holder was done more than an year ago. In the current market even the limited 767-3CF Expansion release is a waste of time from the business point of view. The ONLY reason we doing that is because people have been waiting for the GE and the F for a long time.


Certainly true in short term. But in the longer run, how many of those, who would have bought even some more of your P3d products, are buying nothing at all now, more or less only because of one cheesy cargo door? ...not that I'm a big fright dog.. but it's more about a principal thing. Would there be a real door, I would spend even 5-10 bucks more. Now, I spend nothing at all. Am I the only one?
Isn't it a bit more of a waste of money - or at least thought too short-term, if a product lacks exactly one thing that would have made people spending at least a smaller amount of money for a reasonable compromise instead of nothing at all? And probably nothing more in future?!
That's at least my impression after reading all the customer comments here.
  
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Re: The freighter story
Reply #23 - Aug 1st, 2021 at 2:20pm
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Captain Sim wrote on Jul 27th, 2021 at 10:39pm:
The cup holder was done more than an year ago. In the current market even the limited 767-3CF Expansion release is a waste of time from the business point of view. The ONLY reason we doing that is because people have been waiting for the GE and the F for a long time.


well, that is the unpleasant truth I guess. The P3D addon market has dried out. And I think the other developers are heavy focusing on MSFS too. CS is not the only one developer not putting any reasonable effort anymore into P3D addons.

I wait and see what CS offers in the near future for MSFS. Maybe some nice classic conversion or the like? time for some coffee til then
  
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Re: The freighter story
Reply #24 - Aug 7th, 2021 at 4:22pm
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Captain Sim wrote on Jul 27th, 2021 at 10:39pm:
The ONLY reason we doing that is because people have been waiting for the GE and the F for a long time.


Guys, the problem is that we, who have been waiting for the 767F, are NOT getting a freighter! We are getting something that looks like a freighter but has the same doors as a 763 in the 4D config. This is not a freighter!!!
  

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Reply #25 - Aug 17th, 2021 at 7:04pm
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I was so looking forward to this model (767F) since I do different types of flights. Mainly commercial, some regional and also some cargo routes. Yes, it looks like the freighter but it's not. I would have purchased this but now this isn't an option since it brings no value. I have the 757, 767 and 777, and it's a true disappointment to see this.  Sad
  
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