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Re: MSFS 2020
Reply #30 - Mar 3rd, 2021 at 10:11am
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Captain Sim are still working on the 767 Captain III (and Expansion Model(s)) for P3D4/5, so they're still there.
They are/were waiting for the MSFS 2020 SDK to be improved a lot, before announcing anything, let alone making anything, for MSFS 2020, so you'll just have to wait and see.
  

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Re: MSFS 2020
Reply #31 - Mar 3rd, 2021 at 12:12pm
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thanks Markoz, I imagine that too
but you know "waiting for the SDK to improve a lot" is a bit not much interested.

CS has a strong name, like PM DG, Im sure if they send an email to Asobo/MS saying..look would like to develop addons they would give support as they are with the other

I know someone is working for bugs and expansion maintenance., the fact is very little is known about CS

Are the great dev that created the 727 and 737 still active? do you know him? is he of russian nationality, very little we know

Markoz wrote on Mar 3rd, 2021 at 10:11am:
Captain Sim are still working on the 767 Captain III (and Expansion Model(s)) for P3D4/5, so they're still there.
They are/were waiting for the MSFS 2020 SDK to be improved a lot, before announcing anything, let alone making anything, for MSFS 2020, so you'll just have to wait and see.

  

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Re: MSFS 2020
Reply #32 - Mar 4th, 2021 at 12:52am
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Kapitan wrote on Mar 3rd, 2021 at 12:12pm:
the fact is very little is known about CS

Captain Sim are a very small team of only a handful of people.
  

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Re: MSFS 2020
Reply #33 - Mar 5th, 2021 at 1:00am
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I am convinced P3D is the future of airliner simulation. I hope Captain Sim stays far, far away from MSFS. I have it, and once you get through 100 “ifs” yeah, it would be amazing. It’s very cool for GA flying.

If CS stole a march on everyone and came out with a MSFS 727 or 737 well, yeah! Sign me up for five of each! But that’s not happening.

But, I have thought Captain Sim is beautifully positioned to carve out a niche in the P3D market. Sure, most people want glass. I do understand that. So does every other dev, though, which is why the competition will always be against the darlings of the hobby. (Even the darlings are taking some flack now I see  Cool ) My fond hope remains that we’ll see the old classics brought up to L1011 “port” standards (which are at least as good as most of what’s out there). Of course, Captain Sim knows their business, but I still hope they see enough demand for steam gauge classics, starting with the shorter legged ones. (Sorry, but I don’t like many super long flights.)

In the P3D forum, I see people saying they’re flying classic airliners that I KNOW do not include P3Dv5.1 in their requirements. A DC-9 here, the CS 737 there... People say they work. I dunno. I do know they want them. Can’t say what the L1011 sales are like. It is a fantastic product but a mostly forgotten airplane these days, and was never produced in number. A shame. But I think an updated 727 or early 737 would find a bigger market than the L1011, only because they’re better known.

But, what I want and what makes sense to the fine Captain Sim folks are two different things. Sometimes niche is the way to go, but that’s their business. Meanwhile, I haven’t even kicked the tires on a certain Maddog or Airbus I’ve had for months. Is there a single good classic airliner for P3Dv5.1 besides the L1011? Even one? (Just yes-or-no.)

Well, it’s a dream, but, wouldn’t be great to hear, “Yeah, Captain Sim. They didn’t follow the lemmings off the MSFS cliff and now look: they OWN P3D!” Nothing touches the L1011 in P3Dv5.1, not as a classic. Oh well, guess I’ll keep flying it until there’s something else. And a little 757 Wink
  

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Re: MSFS 2020
Reply #34 - Mar 7th, 2021 at 12:37pm
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i agree
Better a classic jet like Captainsim's than all the fancy scenery graphics of MSFS 2020

But why?
Because CS is not in MSFS
If it were with th L1011 and others your argument dissolves

And why they are not in MS?
Because it would require doing every pixel again from scratch, and I suspect the manpower is not there anymore

  

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Re: MSFS 2020
Reply #35 - Mar 19th, 2021 at 2:55am
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My arguments never dissolve  Grin Nope, P3D is where it’s at for me. Honestly, a well-outfitted P3D looks really good. And I get irritated every time I set up my controls TO MAKE SOME SORT OF SENSE and then I’m back to bizarro-land when I start MSFS again.
  

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Reply #36 - Mar 19th, 2021 at 7:52am
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My control settings never change from how I set them in MSFS. In fact they are identical on my PC and laptop, but I only set them on my PC. It's the settings I did for joystick on my PC, as I don't normally swap the joystick from the PC to the laptop, so it really surprised me to see them  copied over to the laptop.
  

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Reply #37 - Apr 1st, 2021 at 9:50am
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"Honestly, a well-outfitted P3D looks really good."

No, it doesn't. Never. I have had a very well outfitted P3D and it never reached the level of immersion like MSFS does.
Hopefully CS will be starting in MSFS not too late. Other wise they will remain in the small P3D-niche, I'm afraid. Earning the big money will happen in MSFS, especially after releasing the X-box-suite; not in P3D anymore.
  
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Reply #38 - Dec 19th, 2020 at 11:21pm
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hello, wondering if Alpha is looking to move up to investing time to fabricate some service heavies suitable for 2020. Hercs, C17s m400 etc etc i see airfield addons now appearing but service aircraft for enthusiasts are , at present, impossible to find.
  
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Re: MSFS 2020 (sorry for weird alignment)
Reply #39 - Apr 3rd, 2021 at 4:45pm
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No question MSFS looks better graphically. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, though, and I think P3D looks fine. Even during a GA flight from Palermo to Sigonella I’m impressed. And for airliners, unless something is just ugly, I am not going to notice it. But, I will admit that it takes much more investment to get P3D looking the way I want it to look. So that means Orbx has gotten more of my money to get P3D there. So, yes: MSFS looks better, and P3D requires add-ons to get it looking good enough for me, which is still not as good as MSFS.

But the flip side is I think MSFS sometimes lets down the experience in its own ways. For a map-based terrain system, it would be nice to fly from my home airport and recognize my local area (Southern Illinois). You know, plug in your zip code and get a download of local details, maybe? I suppose my expectations were raised too high by the hype. And flying into Manama, the “flat” satellite images of ships at the pier are a real eyesore I’d rather do without altogether. Anyway, until the equipment I want to fly is available in MSFS, the issue is moot for me. LM may (help) put the first woman on the moon before that happens or fix EA. Who knows?

Mark, I admit I just haven’t put enough time into MSFS to learn how to get the controls I carefully set up to “stick.” I think I get them saved; either I don’t or don’t find them. So, I’ll concede that objection is invalid. I have health issues that limit my flying time so fooling around with two different sims is more challenging for me.

I’m not anti-MSFS at all, and can’t predict the future any better than anyone else. The huge big difference is that Captain Sim is developing jetliners for P3D, not MSFS. If that changes, great. I confess to being a CS-onlyist, and not because I don’t own “study level” sims, a phrase that always cracks me up. This is the highest-quality “survey sim” company in my view. They have a house style I like so I know what to expect, and I can now fly a 737-300, 757, 767 and an L1011 (don’t think I have the 777 yet and I hope there will be more true classics). One is a true classic, one is I guess I’d call “transitional,” and heck, the others are not exactly fresh off the assembly line. In other words, they not only tick my personal boxes, but I like the CS aesthetic and just enjoy having a fleet that is from the same developer. Maybe that’s just me.

There’s also the intangible “loyalty” factor, I suppose. I’ve taken my share of guff for liking CS, think the community is great, and have a weak spot for the underdog.CS had always treated me more than decently as a customer and my
  

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Reply #40 - May 24th, 2021 at 11:06am
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Unfortunately it's not a case of porting 20 year old FSX textures into MSFS, never mind recoding all the gauges, recreating the models and redoing the animations.  MSFS started slowly without a lot of the abilities needed in the SDK to create a complex airliner.  I don't believe that's the case now. If CS are a small team, they will surely struggle to create great looking content for MSFS - it will be a huge investment in time and money and time is against them, if they want to leverage the following of their current customers.  P3D will eventually be side-lined as more and more investment from all the big companies goes where they can make money, MSFS and CS will see their revenue stream getting less and less.  Like it or not, unless CS can also make that move into MSFS, I'm resigning myself to never seeing my beloved 707, 727 & 737's shine as they might in the 21st century.  MSFS will solve all the problems they have.  Arguments over which is best will always be subjective, but one thing will always be true - Follow the money and that's behind MSFS, not P3D.
  
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Reply #41 - May 30th, 2021 at 12:01am
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Grin Grin Grin
  

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Reply #42 - Jul 27th, 2021 at 4:25am
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@CS:
After having the P3D addon production close to its end,
what MSFS addon is coming next?
  
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