Once you have it added the SimuFly Delco CIV-A INS to P3Dv4 (v1.60 I think is the one you need to use), make sure to set the NAV Source Select Switch to ONS, and have the A/P HDG switch turned on (much like what you need to do for the CS L-1011 32bit (FSX/SE/P3Dv3).

Please ignore, Mark. Found it.

Now to figure out how to integrate it in P3Dv4.

I'll have to look further into it.

So far, I haven't been able to get the gauges set up correctly yet (having them show up on the screen), and the documentation looks like it's the same as the docs for the 1.51version.
The gauges for v1.60 x64bit version, are named differently to what is seen in the documentation (so it shows that the documention is most likely for v1.51).

Hi Mark

Need some help, please.

I set up the INS as per the tutorial; radios all set up, and course set up as per tutorial. I then take off as per tutorial; at 1000ft ASL I engage the AP., and bring the flaps up as per the IAS.

I switch the HDG on; then NAV; and finally move the VOR in the navigation panel to FMS.

Am still baffled why the aircraft does not follow the INS. What am I doing incorrectly, please?

Hi Mark

Thanks for that. No, not using the SimuFly version of the CIVA INS(v160 x 64) as I was awaiting as and when you managed to sort out the small hiccups you encountered, so resorted to using the FSX Tutorial London-Madrid. Other than the sim, it was just a matter of swapping from FSX to P3D, so the Tutorial more or less was applicable to P3Dv4.

For the default (Captain Sim) CIVA INS

1. CIVA INS Mode Selector Knob - NAV (after it has aligned - the green READY NAV light illuminates)
2. Flight Director Switch - ON, or SYNC (I use both set to SYNC)
3. AP Switch - CMD
4. Heading Mode Switch - ON
5. NAV Source Selector - FMS

Doing the above, the L-1011 II should follow the route.

Sorry Mark, I tried you suggestion, followed it to the letter but the aircraft instead of following the PFPX-generated Flightplan, which I imported into the sim's Flight Planner and checked the route was being displayed, instead of following the 269 deg course, it rigidly stuck to course 177 deg.

When I tried to revert to VOR and chose HDG to 269 the aircraft changed course to that heading, but the minute I changed VOR to FMS, it went back to 177 degrees which is nothing like the course.

At that stage, I packed it in. I'm now at a loss to get this INS to follow a flightplan.

Hi Mark.Many thanks for your reply. To clarify.

I do not use the MAN switch on the default CIVA INS. I leave it on AUTO.

The routing I had, FP created by PFPX, EGLL-LEMD had me departing from Rwy27L at EGLL, but I did not put the HDG to 271. Instead, I set it to 137deg as that was the first turn after lift-off, and it did follow that track after setting the VOR for LON at 113.30.

Then, as per your tips, immediately after lift-off, once I had climbed to 1000ft, I engaged AP after already having set the FD to SYNC in the before taxi checks, set the HDG switch on, as well as the NAV switch, then moved the Navigation Panel Mode switch to FMS.

The aircraft followed that 137deg heading but then just carried on going Eastwards towards the North Sea when it should have gone South towards Madrid.

I then switched from FMS to VOR and brought her back to follow the FP South-bound track, but when I switched back to FMS, the aircraft immediately veered and reverted to a 177 deg heading. Nothing in the clicking that middle right-screw next to the display showed up as a 177 course heading.

So, now I am quite bereft of ideas which way to go.

Wish I could attach images here.

Sorry that it doesn't work for you, but I have no idea why it isn't.

Well I tried the tutorial, and I found a few interesting things.

1. With the N3 set tp 90%-92%, and pressing the IAS button at V₂+10, the L-1011's VS went into the brown (descending), not the blue (climbing)! I had to push the throttles to the max to start climbing.

2. After passing through 10,000ft, and starting the climb to FL370, using the IAS set at 300 Knots, and a climb power of N3 87%, again the L-1011's VS went into the brown (descending), not the blue (climbing)! This time, I went I used the A/T set at 300 knots, and set the VS to 1800 (in the blue), but the speed sat at about 285, and by the time I reached cruise altitude, FL370, the speed was 257 knots, and using the A/T didn't change a thing. At cruise altitude, I turned the A/T off, then on again, and the L-1011 slowly increased to 300 knots, but I had to reduce it to 279 knots to maintain Mach 0.84.

Another weird thing was that using "Ctrl+Shift+G to arm the Takeoff mode of the Flight Director", when the L-1011 reached 60 knots on the takeoff run, the Alpha Mode Flag came up in the IAS Display, and it made it very difficult to do a proper takoff as described in the tutorial.

I never had any problems with the tracking of the route at any stage after switching it to HDG, FMS, and turning NAV Mode OFF. It tracked the route just like it should.

I also tried this by entering the POS two ways. The first way was as described in the tutorial:

2(N) 5 1 2 8 1 INSERT 4(W) 0 2 7 8 INSERT

and the second way was the way I would normally do it for EGLL Gate 317:

2(N) 5 1 2 8 1 INSERT 4(W) 2 7 8 INSERT

and it made no difference to the way the L-1011 followed the route, so both worked exactly the same (so I see no reason to add the 0 into it, because as you add the other numbers into it, they fill the correct places without it (but it could be the way that Tom Beckett was taught to enter them)).

I can only think that you are either doing something wrong with entering the coordinates at EGLL Gate 317, or something is not set correctly on the AP, so it isn't following the route - like you are leaving the NAV Mode Switch ON, and/or the AP is tracking something else when you switch the NAV Source Selector Switch to FMS. I'm at a loss as to why it won't track the route like it should.

ThatColvale wrote on Sep 13^th, 2019 at 9:12pm:

Those instructions were for the SimuFly CIV-A INS (v1.60x64), and not the Captain Sim CIV-A INS, which comes with the 1011 Captain II. In my first reply, I mentioned the SimuFly CIV-A INS, and I think from that point on, there was confusion between the two different CIV-A INS units. Unfortuanately, that was my fault for not quite understanding your original post, where you said "I tried to set-up one from the Avsim-linked tutorial, but lost my way getting this aircraft to follow the waypoints, track, etc", simply because I missed the word tutorial in that sentence, and I took it that you must have been trying to set up the SimuFly CIV-A INS. Because of that, I went and downloaded the SimuFly CIV-A INS (v1.60x64), installed it, and then worked out how to set up and get it working in the 1011 Captain II. Once I had done that, I told you how to modify the panel.cfg, and instructions on how to get it track the route.

IF I had been able to upload an image of the final result, which I wanted to do, you would have noticed straight away that I wasn't showing how to do the flight with the Captain Sim CIV-A INS! The two CIV-A INS units look very different.

Are you are loading the EGLLLEMD01 flight plan into the INS? The reason I ask is because when you first load the L-1011 II into the P3Dv4, there is a plan already loaded in the INS. It's the 1011-base.pln (VFR VOR to VOR from KVPS to KJFK), and it's needed or the INS doesn't work. Once you load a new route, it should overwrite that default route!

To get the Captain Sim INS to follow a route:

1. MODE SELECTOR Knob - NAV - after Alignment is completed (‘1011 Captain’MANUAL Part II – Aircraft and Systems, page 184, O02. MODE SELECTOR UNIT)

2. The route must be loaded into the INS either manually (entering the coordinates individually), or using Menu > Navigation > Flight Planner > Load  and then selecting EGLLLEMD01. Once back in the VC, check to make sure throute is showing in the INS by clicking on the right side screw (you should see 1(1) EGLL, 2(2) SAM, 3(3) KAPEX, etc.. which means that roiute is correctly loaded).

3. Everything is now done for the flight, so after takeoff, fly the runway  heading until you reached at least 3000', the L-1011 is clean (landing gear raised, and flaps up), have accelerated to 250 knots using the A/T, (not IAS mode, because for this test, we won't do the SID, we just want to make sure that the INS will track the route), and VS Mode selected and set to climb at 1800fpm (it doesn't matter if you have set the ALT ARM to 6000', or cruise alt of 37,000'). Once that is done:

4(a). Both Flight Director Switches - ON
4(b). Autopilot Switch - CMD (either Paddle Switch moved to the CMD position).
4(c). Heading Mode Switch - ON
4(d). NAV Switch - OFF (this is the one on the AP panel)
4(e). NAV Source Select Switch - FMS

Once you have done that, the L-1011 should start turning to intercept the magenta line between EGLL and SAM (press SHIFT+6 to bring up the MAP to verify that it is). Interestingly enough, the Heading Display flipped to 171, then 172, then 173, etc. until it settled on the best heading to intercept the magenta route line.

Note. I always leave the bottom right screw on the INS on amber, as it does the same thing as having it set to green:

‘1011 Captain’MANUAL Part II – Aircraft and Systems, page 190

28. Hidden (virtual) key – Auto-Switch Route Pages on/off
- There is no click zone if route is less or equal 9 waypoints.
- Lower right screw is amber if route is more than 1 page (more than 9
waypoints) and the lower right screw has not been pressed yet. It indicates
that you should decide which mode you will use for navigation. By default
"auto-switch route pages" will be on.

If "auto-switch route pages" is on (lower right screw green or amber), next 9
waypoints will be loaded automatically when you reach leg 9-1 at the
current page. Please see NAVIGATION chapter for details.

Try creating a new route from EGLL (Rwy 27L) to LEMD (Rwy 32L), but without a SID, or STAR.

EGLL DCT SAM N63 LELNA UN621 BASIK UN90 NOVAN UN864 ORBIS DCT LEMD

Save it as EGLLLEMDxx (xx = next number of the EGLLLEMD routes you already have saved), then load it into the INS instead of The EGLLLEMD01 that has the SID and STAR.

See if that works.

Okay, did as suggested.

Followed track 271 out of 27 L and just after 3000 ft engaged as suggested, and the plane headed towards HDG 181 and just stayed there. Did not even make an attempt to head towards SAM, etc, etc.Stayed on 181 all the way to the Northern headland of Spain.

At that junction, I just gave up, and quit

I just cannot figure what it is I am doing wrong, or maybe I should give up INS-equipped aircraft as a bad joke. It was never like this with the 707 in FSX way back when.

I am intrigued as to how you managed to attach that image because I cannot seem to do it.

I re-loaded that flightplan as for some obscure reason as soon as I noticed I had a distance of over 3000nm in that INS, and this time it did show the correct distances. No idea why that glitch crept it because in no way I inserted KJFK as a waypoint.

After taking-off from Rwy 27L, initially choosing a 271 degrees track as I am climbing out, then selecting to track 243 degrees, and after reaching 3000ft selecting all as you suggested, i.e. both FDs, AP to CMD, HDG switch, then lastly, FMS, this is the weird direction 353 degrees the aircraft heads to

The MCP settings

Here she is just heading on a track not anywhere in the INS

Even after I have manually opted to fly a course to match SAM and then switch over to the FMS, here we go, off heading North, again, like a homing pigeon!

I use AivlaSoft EFBv2 to provide a map-following.

Thanks for the attachments.

Will try out your tips, thanks.

Don't use IAS as when I tried to use it the VS went negative in the initial climb-out.

Will try your settings tonight.

A sheer waste of time!

This INS has a mind of its own.The minute it is switched on, it goes from HDG271 to 32. Why, wherefor, not a clue. It is not even listed anywhere as track waypoint!!!!

This aircraft and its INS is a complete joke!

At last, success.

I followed the Base.pln, and here are the sequential screenies

At KVPS

HDG following the track

Suggested livery

Well, well, well. Renamed your Base.pln, then decided to re-try that EGLLLEMD.plan, and amazingly the INS followed the track

Not quite 100% bang on the track HDG but at least heading in the right direction, towards LEMD.

Late night now, so will give a shot tomorrow again.

The fact that in all of the images of tracking the EGLLLEMD route, you appear to be off the route by the about the same distance, makes me think that your alignment is off by that margin.

For testing purposes, I recommend that you do the Zero Drift Error Feature.

Zero Drift Error Feature:
- data Selector - DSRTK/STS
- press REMOTE
- when REMOTE illuminates you will see increasing digits on the left display
- press key 3
- REMOTE will extinguish
- if you press REMOTE again
- you will see 0

Drift error is erased and will not increase in the current flight.

This way, the L-1011 will always be on the magenta route line in the map, so if your alignment is off, then you will know that's true, and not the drift error that occurs over time with the INS.

That's it!!!!! I am wasting no more time with this aircraft. Period.

Yesterday, I had it follow a route, loaded in the INS, albeit, a bit off the true alignment,but nevertheless, heading South towards its destination.

This evening I load the same FP same aircraft, same Rwy, etc, etc everything teh same. Did the same AP functions, and so maddeningly, the aircraft heads North.

Even re-checking the INS showed the FP loaded correctly and as per what it ought to be, yet the aircraft has a mind of its own.

FP confirmed, loaded in INS

That's it, going to uninstall and bin this aircraft for good!!

I have other aircraft that can give me far greater pleasure and not waste my time.

Hate to say this, but I have the exaxt same issue on my side

Followed your letters to the T mate, loaded in the FP, FD's set to on (also tried in sync) and NAV mode selected to FMS. Departed from EGLL on the 1st attempt, Flight plan should have routed me North, I ended up over the English channel, tried another flight departing JFK, same setup INS should have routed me North East towards the Atlantic, it decided it wanted to go for poutine in Toronto instead

I should add to this, waypoint 1 should match the Co ordinates you enter in POS during alignment