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FPS and computer performance
Jan 2nd, 2018 at 7:05pm
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Please note that 24FPS is movie production standard, so the 24 and up are perfectly good FPS.

If you get less than 24FPS, there's room for the 757 VC performance improvement:

1. Turn OFF volumetric lights FX. Shift+2, click the icon.
2. Remove the cabin and wings from the VC via ACE.
3. Turn off the F/O's CDU, ADI, HSI displays.

If your PC still cant handle the 757 smooth enough you'd try:
4. Disable Trueglass
5. Dissable flight deck lighting FX.

That's all you can do on the 757 side.
But please google for general info on the sim and PC performance settings. Just one minor setting could change performance significally.

Let's keep all performance tips and tricks in this thread for convenience.
But of course the best trick is to upgrade your system  Wink

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Reply #1 - Jan 2nd, 2018 at 7:20pm
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Thanks for this!, I think greatly for performance if you could disable the cabin so your GPU and CPU doesnt have to render/usage on a cabin ,like normal aircraft products such as aerosoft or other from the cockpit which its just the cockpit and no cabin which uses less resources resulting in more performance since its just the cockpit and not cockpit+cabin.

Option 1 seems the best , have a removable cabin option, but the removeable wing thing dont remove,I think if you remove the cabin I think the performance will greatly improve

Thanks greatly

  
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Reply #2 - Jan 3rd, 2018 at 5:56pm
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Looking forward to the remove cabin And wing option!

Hopefully it Will be smooth sailing And we Will see v1.1 sooner then later!
  
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Re: The 1.1 progress
Reply #3 - Mar 14th, 2018 at 4:36pm
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I just bought this tonight, and have completed my first few flights.

Request: can you please work on optimising performance, particularly with regards to frame rate stability.

I'm flying only in VR these days, and whilst I can get the necessary 45 FPS with everything turned down (and cabin off), frames regularly drop down into the 20's. From a VR perspective, this makes things stutter.

Your plan to allow FO displays to be turned off is a good start (I fly this way with other). Perhaps you could also offer an option to decrease refresh rate of the displays that are left on (option in other aircraft). I think displays are a common reason for poor performance in P3D.

I also noticed that some of the cockpit texture shimmer more than others - overhead looks good, but MCP shimmers quite a bit (its better with AA cranked all the way up, but then the aircraft performance is unacceptable).

If you can work out any other areas that could lead to better performance or frame rate stability (important), that would be great.

FSL A320 has terrible frame stability on release, but they improved this with the first patch. Other aircraft, such as the Maddog, seem to be pretty good from release. FWIW, I've flown all of the major P3D airliners in VR, with the exception of the TFdi 717.

Overall, your 757 is a fun aircraft to fly in VR. Analogue gauges e.g. speed, with the bug clearly visible, are quite easy to fly with. Cabin is big enough to stand up in (unlike the 737). All the necessary controls are easily accessable in VR mode, and I can program the CDU OK with my HMD on.

Btw, my system is an overclocked 5820K @4.4Ghx, with a 1080Ti. The above performance issues are with pretty much everything turned off - weather, dynamic lighting, autogen etc. So whilst some will have a CPU that's just a little faster, there's no other potential for performance increases at my end.

There's a lot of people who fly VR exclusive (or at least frequently) these days, and that number will steadily increase, so if you can tweak things as above, I'm sure I'm not the only one who would appreciate it.

Thanks chaps!

Rob

P.S. If anyone has any performance tips specific to the 757 -apart from turning off the cabin - I love to hear them. Cheers!

(edit: just noticed this was my first post, after being a forum member for 8 years. Took me a while, will try and get the second post in a bit quicker)  Smiley
  
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Re: The 1.1 progress
Reply #4 - Mar 14th, 2018 at 5:06pm
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Whitey wrote on Mar 14th, 2018 at 4:36pm:
I also noticed that some of the cockpit texture shimmer more than others - overhead looks good, but MCP shimmers quite a bit (its better with AA cranked all the way up, but then the aircraft performance is unacceptable).

Thanks for input.
Right, the MCP texture is the biggest one (4K) and the VR seems to be more sensitive to a texture file size than a regular setup.

The textures will be optimized in the 1.1. If that won't help will make a smaller textures pack especially for VR use.

  
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v 1.1 performance
Reply #5 - Jun 3rd, 2018 at 2:27pm
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thanks for the update.
No improvement re performance yet ?
(same or even little bit less FPS after upgrade..)
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Reply #6 - Jun 4th, 2018 at 2:39pm
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Agree on the performance. I noticed a few less FPS than the previous version !
  


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Reply #7 - Jun 4th, 2018 at 6:12pm
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ca 8 fps less.... Embarrassed-(
  
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Frame rates in FSX
Reply #8 - Jun 29th, 2018 at 3:47pm
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I have my frame rate locked at 35 in fsx.
I have the other 737, 747 and 777, QW 787, Majestic 8-400 and
I get 35fps in the VC with all of them.
The frame rate in external view with the CS 757 is also 35, but once in the VC, it drops right down to 25. (No stutters, however).
Is there a way to get this up to 35?

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Reply #9 - Jul 4th, 2018 at 6:08am
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Hi Cs,
Have the standard Resolution textures for the virtual cockpit been rolled out already or are they yet to be released. Furthermore, would it be possible to implement the ability to change the gauge refresh rates to optimise performance?
Thanks HoldDelta
  

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Reply #10 - Jul 4th, 2018 at 2:35pm
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HoldDelta wrote on Jul 4th, 2018 at 6:08am:
Have the standard Resolution textures for the virtual cockpit been rolled out already

Yes, but the textures do not affect fps much. The systems code and animations does.

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Furthermore, would it be possible to implement the ability to change the gauge refresh rates to optimise performance?

Well, hardware upgrade sounds better  Wink

  
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Reply #11 - Jul 4th, 2018 at 4:02pm
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Thanks for your reply Thantheleon.
Performance seems to be no problem on my build with other aircraft similar to the 757 in system fidelity as well as other fields. It's still usable only seems more prone to poor performance and wondered as to if anything additional would assist but if not I can understand given the model and animations.
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Reply #12 - Jul 22nd, 2018 at 1:45pm
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HoldDelta wrote on Jul 4th, 2018 at 4:02pm:
Thanks for your reply Thantheleon.
Performance seems to be no problem on my build with other aircraft similar to the 757 in system fidelity as well as other fields. It's still usable only seems more prone to poor performance and wondered as to if anything additional would assist but if not I can understand given the model and animations.
Cheers



I agree here.... Outside, the FPS are fine.. but once in the VC, it just makes it very annoying to fly.....

I do not like comparing other people's work.... As a result, we are really pleading that you guys look into this soonest as it really renders - for some - the plane unflyable ... not because it cannot fly, but the impact it has when flying.

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LOW FPS and Stutters
Reply #13 - Aug 9th, 2018 at 7:32pm
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I get low fps (high 20's low 30's) in the vc and outside. I have turned off the first officer displays and volume light. I also stutters when looking around. This also happens in the CS B737-200. I get good fps and almost zero stutters in other aircraft.Any ideas?
  
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version 1.2. performance
Reply #14 - Aug 13th, 2018 at 5:52pm
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Hello, after upgrading to v 1.2 the performance in VC view is still isibly lower than other heavy add.ons.
Any plans to somehow optimize ? Or any other set-up trick ?
many thanks !
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Reply #15 - Aug 14th, 2018 at 7:14am
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+ 1
Following this, I cannot exceed 25 fps in cruise!
Appreciate if anything can be done in regards to performance, it is no less important than other features...
  
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Reply #16 - Aug 14th, 2018 at 6:23pm
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This is my #1 request to fix please. The optimization is horrible. I have a top of line PC 8700k @ 5ghz and a gtx1080ti @ 11gb with a Aorus gigabyte gaming 7 mobo and the 757 stutters abundantly in the VC view. I cant even fly it. I have a lot of AI aircraft and the only way to fly it is if I turn off ALL of my ai aircraft. I don't have this problem with other or other addons. Please, this is a must. I just bought this last week too and its sitting in the hangar until its fixed. thanks
  
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Reply #17 - Aug 14th, 2018 at 9:50pm
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Koa wrote on Aug 14th, 2018 at 6:23pm:
757 stutters abundantly in the VC view


If you do not have the latest FSUIPC utility, you will get a lot of stuttering.  I have the i7 8086K at 5GHz and 1080ti and no problems.  But I did experience stuttering with another aircraft while using FSUIPC and it was horrible.  Updated FSUIPC as recommended by others and no problems.
  
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Reply #18 - Aug 20th, 2018 at 12:22am
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macejoj wrote on Aug 13th, 2018 at 5:52pm:
Hello, after upgrading to v 1.2 the performance in VC view is still isibly lower than other heavy add.ons.
Any plans to somehow optimize ? Or any other set-up trick ?
many thanks !
JM


+1.... and we're still not getting responses for this... not good guys!
  

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Reply #19 - Aug 23rd, 2018 at 6:40pm
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Redz Carib268 wrote on Aug 20th, 2018 at 12:22am:
+1.... and we're still not getting responses for this...

Nothing to add to the initial post which is just got updated.
  
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Reply #20 - Aug 26th, 2018 at 9:42pm
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Hi , many thanks

re update :
1. Turn OFF volumetric lights FX. Shift+2, click the icon.
2. Remove the cabin and wings from the VC via ACE.
3. Turn off the F/O's CDU, ADI, HSI displays.

1.and 2. no significant impact for me.
3. how to do that ?

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Reply #21 - Aug 27th, 2018 at 2:19pm
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macejoj wrote on Aug 26th, 2018 at 9:42pm:
3. how to do that ?

Via CDU
  
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Reply #22 - Aug 27th, 2018 at 5:10pm
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Many thanks
I tried, but unfortunately no significant impact on FPS...

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Reply #23 - Aug 31st, 2018 at 6:37pm
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I don't get this post.  Sorry I don't.  The reason?  I wouldn't want to believe that the people that designed this aircraft would tell everyone NOT to use certain features that it was designed for.

I just bought this aircraft yesterday. Spend the whole day going over all of the PDF's.

Did a test flight using the FMC.  Aircraft is NOt usable.  Frame rates  4-6.

I have Windows 10 build 1803, updated drivers for my nVidia 1080 card, Lockheed Martin Prepar3d Ver 4.3.

None, nodda -0- of my other paid aircraft have any problems with frame rates.  My normal average frame rates are 65-75 with P3D, Active Sky and FSCommander or Avilasoft EFB running.

I read NO where in any of the posts that there is a fix or that the problem is being worked on.

If I am wrong, set me straight.  But I am just a little ticked off about this.   I was hessitant to buy it in the first place because I was for warned.  But I figured since I had a good 757 Captain for my old FSX that it would be fine.   Its NOT.

  
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Reply #24 - Aug 31st, 2018 at 8:36pm
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N90831 wrote on Aug 31st, 2018 at 6:37pm:
Frame rates  4-6.

May we see a screenshot of that?
  
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Reply #25 - Sep 4th, 2018 at 7:51pm
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Thank for asking about a screen shot. However, Now on the 2nd and subsequent flights I am experiencing 26-29 FPS. 
Maybe I was to quick on the trigger.
It is working well.
However, I do experience stuttering during VR use. Not a big deal but thought I would mention it.

Thank you.

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Reply #26 - Sep 4th, 2018 at 8:13pm
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Hi,, what did you do to improve FPS ?
I have still lower than other add-ons (cca 19-22)
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Reply #27 - Sep 5th, 2018 at 12:21am
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N90831 wrote on Sep 4th, 2018 at 7:51pm:
However, I do experience stuttering during VR use.

That's because of the texture files size. You'd try to downgrade them for VR purposes.
  
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Reply #28 - Nov 2nd, 2018 at 5:28pm
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So will this issue be addressed further or is there a fix for this. I run a 7700@5.1 and a 1080ti and the 757 is the worse on FPS out of all my other addons. I tired all the tips mentioned and nothing helps. Getting mid 20’s on approach in VC is pretty pitaful. I hold 30 with the Labs and it’s a frame rate hog.
  
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Reply #29 - Jan 24th, 2019 at 7:31am
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I bought the plane right after it was released on the p3d platform. Unfortunately, even witc vc cabin off, and other options turned off, the number of fps compared to other develpers (other, Majestic) is much smaller and in some cases reaches up to 10 fps. Despite numerous patches, nothing has changed significantly. When will we be able to count on a patch that will noticeably improve the smoothness of this aircraft?
What effect on the fps have all the animations that you have added to the plane and which from a practical point of view do not have any sense for most people (opening engines, etc.) ?

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Reply #30 - Jan 24th, 2019 at 1:37pm
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musiol1 wrote on Jan 24th, 2019 at 7:31am:
the number of fps is much smaller

How many?

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What effect on the fps have all the animations that you have added to the plane and which from a practical point of view do not have any sense for most people (opening engines, etc.) ?

Those exterior animations don't hit the FPS at all.
It's all about VC and its complex systems (FMC, the displays, WXR, TERR) and many hundreds of system animations.

  
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Reply #31 - Jan 24th, 2019 at 8:44pm
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Turn off the F/O's CDU, ADI, HSI displays.

- WHERE IN THE CDU IS THIS? CANNOT FIND

Disable Trueglass

- HOW?
  
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Reply #32 - Jan 24th, 2019 at 8:59pm
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Wayne St John wrote on Jan 24th, 2019 at 8:44pm:
Turn off the F/O's CDU, ADI, HSI displays.

- WHERE IN THE CDU IS THIS? CANNOT FIND

MENU>OPTIONS SETUP>OPTIONS
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Disable Trueglass
- HOW?

../CS_B757-200PF-III_PW2037/panel/panel.cfg

[VCockpit01]

replace
gauge08=TrueGlass!Core,0,0,1,1
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Thanks! My CFG file ends with gauge06, there is no trueglass
entry. Do I add it? Do I keep it 08 or make it 07?
  
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Reply #34 - Jan 30th, 2019 at 9:49pm
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Wayne St John wrote on Jan 24th, 2019 at 9:29pm:
Thanks! My CFG file ends with gauge06, there is no trueglass
entry. Do I add it? Do I keep it 08 or make it 07?

../CS_B757-200PF-III_PW2037/panel/panel.cfg  has the 08.
  
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Reply #36 - Jan 30th, 2019 at 11:52pm
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So again, not bashing..I like this plane but when is CS going to fix the performance issues??? Frame rates suck with a great CPU. No issues with all other aircraft.
  
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Reply #37 - Jan 31st, 2019 at 12:32am
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Wayne St John wrote on Jan 30th, 2019 at 11:52pm:
Frame rates suck with a great CPU.

How many is the "suck"?
GPU alone means nothing. Please read the initial post.
  
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Reply #38 - Jan 31st, 2019 at 2:45am
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Captain Sim wrote on Jan 31st, 2019 at 12:32am:
How many is the "suck"?
CPU alone means nothing. Please read the initial post.


Please stop tap dancing around the issue and throwing out anything possible to keep us interested. I wrote CPU...not GPU..I have a gaming system..and yes a very good GPU. You know what sucks means..this is nothing new. You have a very pretty plane..make it work..tune down the nice lights and make it work..period.
  
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Reply #39 - Feb 10th, 2019 at 4:00pm
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i can confirm the "way" lower fps. And of course i ill give you all info you need.

I think this is not related to GPU at all. At least in my case.

My system is:

- 7700k on 4.5ghz
- RTX 2080
- 16GM Ballistrix Sport Ram
- Asus Prime Z270K
- Win 10 Pro
- All drivers latest version atm
- p3d 4.4

For example, my results with cpu/gpu are very different in behaviour as a other 747/8 for example. In the CS i get around 20 fps less in unlocked mode in the new KPDX from flightbeam.

I start the same flight, same exact time, no weather, same settings of course and lift of the runway in the other 748 with 45 fps. In the CS i get not 30, most of the time 22-25. If i would lock fps (what i can do with any other plane basically) i get even less fps, then they are around 19 to 25. You may call 24 fps movie quality but i think you know this is just a weak excuse... In p3d, with any monitor over 50hz this 19 to 24 fps are a slideshow.

When i look at CPU/GPU performance its clearly the CPU that gets hit dramatically on 1. core (Core 0). In such a way that it seems the whole other p3d calculations also get a hit. Terrain looks a lot more blurry in the CS757, autogen loads later and less in numbers and the whole mesh looks way different as when i fly in any other plane.

The GPU frequeny idles nearly in this plane (at least on a RTX) with like 300 to 500 MHZ core freq where the other is using the full 1800mhz i have. Load is around 25% so the GPU cannot be the problem at all.

Its the CPU that gets it in such a bad way that i have few words for it. And i am aware that P3d engine tries to keep this core busy and shedules oter thing by it. But usually i can get away with like 95%, what means that really everything in terrain still gets calculated too. Here it gets completley bashed by the sim, doesnt matter i free the core or not.

Bear in mind that i already try to keep things from core 0 by telling chaseplane and smartcars etc to not use core 0 at all. And this works very well in near all other planes.

So yes, there would be a real need to lower this cpu hits to have better perf.

I compared to 4 other planes,, being other 748, MD 80 by Leonardo, AS a319 andthe Dash 8. Last one cant be counted i guess so lets say 3 other planes. All of them try to max the GPU way more over the CPU. Just the CS seems to do this, again, in such a bad way that not only perf takes a hit but the whole rendering of the sim elements.

Clouds look worse, terrain too and the fps are bad...

Sorry to say but atm im not a real happy customer. I bought this 2 days ago and had nearly only hassle. VNAV/LNAV seems pretty unstable, holding didnt work in 3 cases and many other bugs.

But thats another story...

Now im usually not someone who likes to do this "ranting". Im a dev myself and i know how it feels when customers are not happy with the time one spent and energy and all that. But what else can i say? 20 FPS difference over other planes is dramatic and a real reason to put this out in words i think.

I always talked about inside fps btw, in the VC. Outside it looks way way worse even...

In 4k textures and SSAA the other 748 goes for me somewhere aroung 80 to 100 fps in the air. The CS 757 does 30 fps with 2k textures and MSAA 8.... Thats hilarious, sorry. Such a big difference should not be


Ill add a screenshot later or 2



A pic in unlocked state ill add later on airport. There wont be a big difference though, maybe i reach 28, 29 unlocked. thats still over 25 fps less.
  
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Reply #40 - Feb 10th, 2019 at 8:57pm
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16 fps (locked) on KDEN arrival.... i would laugh if i could....but i just spent 120 euro on this thing. Really, i feel the first time ever in flightsim that i want my money back. Only the AS a320 comes close to this.



and 21-25  unlocked





I guarantee you i get 40 fps in the 748 here on arrival. Probably on higher settings even.
  
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Reply #41 - Feb 11th, 2019 at 2:59pm
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Senchay wrote on Feb 10th, 2019 at 4:00pm:
I compared to 4 other planes,, being other 748, MD 80 by Leonardo, AS a319 andthe Dash 8.

Thanks, but we do not compare apples to oranges.

You have decent (higher than hollywood movie standards) FPS.
You'd get more if you read the initial post.

  
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Reply #42 - Feb 11th, 2019 at 3:17pm
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what you mean by that, upgrading my rig like you tell all the others? If there is one of 20 planes that does this is your product, not something that has to do with comparing apples with oranges.....

And what about your hollywood movie all the time? We are in a sim where every frame counts if its below 30.

20 fps difference to all other planes is very very bad and if you continue this road with ignorance, rest assured it will come back one day.

Thanks for the "support". This was the last product of you i will ever get. By now ive read a lot of other posts here and i can see where this is going. Your telling ppl to upgrade their systems, telling its all our problem. Sure sure, nice try. Im not one whos falling for it, i have too many other planes that work.

Sorry this behaviour makes me so angry. What you want to me to do, lower my visual settings (how you even know i dont have already lol....) even further so my GPU is fully idling? Did you read through my topic?

How you can be so arrogant that you think ppl on higher end rigs have to lower stuff that they NOWHERE else have to lower. Is it that you think this 757 is superior in all the categories and the best plane out there that would give a reason?  With all those bugs? And this drastic low perf?

If a FSL labs does that its someone understandable. You are in no way FSL... sorry. Not other, no Leonardo, not others. It ranges somewhere here ind the very big middle. Wow...

And that hollywood movie thing.... Doesnt it get old by now? How many you have told this already? Again... im not a noob. Im into this since 3 decades and i know what fps are. No worries.

16 fps, and 19 and not even your 24 are good enough on a monitor that has more hz as 25. Because it introduces way way way more stutters as any movie would do. No cinema has these microstutters because everything is in sync.

But now you probably tell me to buy a gsync monitor....im waiting for it
  
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Frame rates after update
Reply #43 - May 18th, 2019 at 6:32am
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My system handles  a pretty good load for all of the addons I have.  All of my aircraft have never interferred with the frame rates. However, today I was starting a flight with the CS 757-200 and immediately got a msg in my browser to update.  I looked at the update number and noticed it was one I had already appllied. But the browser notification kept popping up.  Thinking there is probably a newer update but with the same number, I downloaded the update and applied.

Now while on a flight to KLGA (which New York is heavy on frame rates anyway) my frame rates went down to as low a 6 fps which meant I could not control the aircraft manually.  After crashing on the runway.  I decided to test my other aircraft.  All aircraft perform at 40-50 fps except for the CS 777 which was around 30-33 fps.

I am stumped. 

Additionally, I notice as soon as I tried to taxi the aircraft it wanted to taxi a a very very fast pace.  Breaks would hardly stop the fast taxi.

Again, stumped after I installed a required update.
  
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Reply #44 - May 18th, 2019 at 11:45am
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Could the team please do something to improve frame rates in the next update. With the PFD and ND pop-ups displaying, I lose a good 8 fps. Close the pop-ups, and the frame rate increases again.
  


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Reply #45 - May 27th, 2019 at 1:27pm
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Captain sim - are you going to look into this matter?

It IS a real one.
You can't tell someone with an i7 8700K and a GTX1070ti card to upgrade when the low fps only happen in your 757.

This is not the way to treat your paying customers.
Please fix it.
  


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Reply #46 - Jun 4th, 2019 at 4:09pm
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bought the 757base and F expansion , then the android cdu.
fly it for a couple of days.
yes its very hard on the pc , the ap is wobbly, cant make dme ark,
vnav climb not work correct.
i have one of the fastest single gpu pc out here and it struggle
shall do more tests but so far it has big performance hits
basic pc specs: 9900k 5.5ghz 4133c16 mems Galax 2080Ti OC Lab edition
  
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Reply #47 - Jun 20th, 2019 at 4:50pm
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Hi guys,
Thought i'd share something with you that i have found.
If i'm in an outside view / wing view and i then go into a Cockpit VC view something seems to happen with performance. If you then return to the outside / wing view the performance is very stuttery and not smooth at all. It only seems to be after being in the VC.
  
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Reply #48 - Jun 21st, 2019 at 4:53pm
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Mejjo wrote on Jun 20th, 2019 at 4:50pm:
If i'm in an outside view / wing view and i then go into a Cockpit VC view something seems to happen with performance. If you then return to the outside / wing view the performance is very stuttery and not smooth at all. It only seems to be after being in the VC.

Probably the sim is keep running some gauges from the VC in exterior view. Try cycle the views (S and/or A)
  
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Reply #49 - Jun 22nd, 2019 at 7:44pm
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Captain Sim wrote on Jun 21st, 2019 at 4:53pm:
Mejjo wrote on Jun 20th, 2019 at 4:50pm:
If i'm in an outside view / wing view and i then go into a Cockpit VC view something seems to happen with performance. If you then return to the outside / wing view the performance is very stuttery and not smooth at all. It only seems to be after being in the VC.

Probably the sim is keep running some gauges from the VC in exterior view. Try cycle the views (S and/or A)


Hello,
I tried this and unfortunately it doesn't change anything for me. A bit frustrating as its perfectly smooth prior to that.
  
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