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RyanJames170 Full Member Offline Posts: 34 Joined: Nov 17^th, 2012	Re: V-One Gauge for B737-200/Adv (Upgrade) Reply #15 - Nov 30^th, 2012 at 8:29pm	Print Post
	CoolP wrote on Nov 30^th, 2012 at 8:08pm: I wouldn't focus on that one thrust value in the sim. This leaves out how e.g. the drag is modelled and how the thrust relates to the (sim) fuel burn. So it's not like you would just enter the rw thrust values and be a happy pilot. Well, unfortunately not. � The trick on modelling a good sim flight model is to work around some FSX engine limitations and quirks. By this, the thrust value is one factor in a bunch of.. many. Take the air file for example. i have been working off of some real take off charts that boeing has and with 19,000lbs of thrust its taking off way to soon and there is no way that in real life that you would cruse at 33,000 feet with only 70% N1 at over 100,000lbs GW with the 737-200 as for the fuel burn i have it fairly close giving Boeing's weight to range charts that they have. the hard part i have is that i don't know how much reserve fuel Boeing was planing for in there range charts. and with the thrust set to 14,500 it climbs much more realistic as compared to the NGX, it can ezly make it to 33,000 feet Evan 35,000 feet witch is its max alt


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asanal Senior Member Offline Posts: 522 Location: Flemington,NJ USA Joined: Jul 9^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: V-One Gauge for B737-200/Adv (Upgrade) Reply #16 - Nov 30^th, 2012 at 10:16pm	Print Post
	Paul, 1-"No wonder it doesn't work...this is a Prepar3D installation! The dsd_fsx_xml_sound.gau is not compatable." Ok. I continue use V1-One without sound. I am not going back to FSX 2-I'm not sure what you're trying to show with images I was showing to you,V-One installed accordingly. � 3-Will you do Sound gauges for Prepar3D? �


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asanal Senior Member Offline Posts: 522 Location: Flemington,NJ USA Joined: Jul 9^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: V-One Gauge for B737-200/Adv (Upgrade) Reply #17 - Nov 30^th, 2012 at 10:47pm	Print Post
	Ryan, What will Fuel Flown gauges show with 14500Lbs thrust? Thanks


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CoolP Senior Member Offline Posts: 2568 Joined: Jan 17^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: V-One Gauge for B737-200/Adv (Upgrade) Reply #18 - Dec 1^st, 2012 at 3:38am	Print Post
	I think Pauls gauge is of great use, even without the sounds. By this, I just wanted to drop that he may have no control over the dsd_fsx_xml_sound gauge development as that's from another author (Doug Dawson). http://library.avsim.net/esearch.php?CatID=fsxgau&DLID=158634 Don't worry, it's meant to be used by other talented developers like Paul. It supports FS9 and FSX. And the idea, the concept on the 737 and the sounds are all from Paul. The differences between FSX and P3D aren't that big, so I doubt that huge problems cause the incompatibility. It may just be the version string or the wrong name of the flight sim process to trigger such no-go events. As I saw, it uses Simconnect and, as P3D features a slightly different version, may fail to initialize or find the spot to actually start working. Well, you can write the author if you like.


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RyanJames170 Full Member Offline Posts: 34 Joined: Nov 17^th, 2012	Re: V-One Gauge for B737-200/Adv (Upgrade) Reply #19 - Dec 1^st, 2012 at 3:56am	Print Post
	asanal wrote on Nov 30^th, 2012 at 10:47pm: Ryan, What will Fuel Flown gauges �show with 14500Lbs thrust? Thanks around 7540lbs per engine at full power at take off, in cruse around FL300 it will be around 3300-3000lbs giver take


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asanal Senior Member Offline Posts: 522 Location: Flemington,NJ USA Joined: Jul 9^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: V-One Gauge for B737-200/Adv (Upgrade) Reply #20 - Dec 1^st, 2012 at 4:22am	Print Post
	Ryan, thanks. I will try in P3D. CooIP, I utulize V-One in my flights. It is a good idea I will try to contact author (Doug Dawson)


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asanal Senior Member Offline Posts: 522 Location: Flemington,NJ USA Joined: Jul 9^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: V-One Gauge for B737-200/Adv (Upgrade) Reply #21 - Dec 1^st, 2012 at 5:13am	Print Post
	Ryan, I made a test flight with 737-200. 116,000Lbs GW. Temp 15C. Thrust set to 14500lbs in aircraftcfg file. Full power takeoff EPR 2.24 Fuel Flow reached to 5560Lbs. 737 wheels off at aprx 6000Ft Rwy.


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RyanJames170 Full Member Offline Posts: 34 Joined: Nov 17^th, 2012	Re: V-One Gauge for B737-200/Adv (Upgrade) Reply #22 - Dec 1^st, 2012 at 5:39am	Print Post
	asanal wrote on Dec 1^st, 2012 at 5:13am: Ryan, I made a test flight with 737-200. 116,000Lbs GW. Temp 15C. Thrust set to 14500lbs in aircraftcfg file. Full power takeoff EPR 2.24 Fuel Flow reached to 5560Lbs. 737 wheels off at aprx 6000Ft Rwy. you need change this in the CFG [TurbineEngineData] fuel_flow_gain = 0.002 //Gain on fuel flow inlet_area = 19.6 //Square Feet, engine nacelle inlet area rated_N2_rpm = 29920 //RPM, second stage compressor rated value static_thrust=14500 //23000 afterburner_available = 0 //Afterburner available? reverser_available = 1 //Thrust reverser available? ThrustSpecificFuelConsumption = 0.515 //Thrust specific fuel consumption (Jets) AfterBurnThrustSpecificFuelConsumption = 0 //TSFC with afterburn/reheat engaged you need to change what i have hilghted to .51-.52


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CoolP Senior Member Offline Posts: 2568 Joined: Jan 17^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: V-One Gauge for B737-200/Adv (Upgrade) Reply #23 - Dec 1^st, 2012 at 6:27am	Print Post
	It may be useful to move FDE mod questions to another topic as this one is about the V-One gauge from Paul. Just trying to avoid that folks read a lot of technical data which, so far, isn't regarded by Paul's gauge. I know that he only supports his FDE data and the one from Bud (http://captainsim.org/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1339198966). By this, maybe your mod is supported in the future. But as long as this isn't the case, it may confuse the readers to discuss it here. I hope that makes sense. �


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asanal Senior Member Offline Posts: 522 Location: Flemington,NJ USA Joined: Jul 9^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: V-One Gauge for B737-200/Adv (Upgrade) Reply #24 - Dec 1^st, 2012 at 4:52pm	Print Post
	Ryan I made another test flight please see your post: http://captainsim.org/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1354222724


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CoolP Senior Member Offline Posts: 2568 Joined: Jan 17^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: V-One Gauge for B737-200/Adv (Upgrade) Reply #25 - Dec 1^st, 2012 at 5:12pm	Print Post
	You've posted in the topic regarding Bud's FDE mod, Ahmet. Ryan's is here. http://captainsim.org/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1354222724


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asanal Senior Member Offline Posts: 522 Location: Flemington,NJ USA Joined: Jul 9^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: V-One Gauge for B737-200/Adv (Upgrade) Reply #26 - Dec 1^st, 2012 at 5:27pm	Print Post
	opps.. I will change it. Done


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Lee Park Full Member Offline Posts: 99 Location: Cape Town, South Africa Joined: Apr 11^th, 2012 Gender:	Re: V-One Gauge for B737-200/Adv (Upgrade) Reply #27 - Dec 14^th, 2012 at 9:27am	Print Post
	Excellent job, again!!! hope the 707 and 727 are getting the same makeover soon.


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liser Full Member Offline Posts: 5 Joined: Jul 4^th, 2011	Re: V-One Gauge for B737-200/Adv (Upgrade) Reply #28 - Dec 19^th, 2012 at 9:08pm	Print Post
	Does this work with C/F extension? Thank you!


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fsxpaul Ex Member	Re: V-One Gauge for B737-200/Adv (Upgrade) Reply #29 - Dec 19^th, 2012 at 10:13pm	Print Post
	liser wrote on Dec 19^th, 2012 at 9:08pm: Does this work with C/F extension? Thank you! I have it installed on the C/F and it seems to work fine. The gauge will not give proper v-speeds for the -100 though.


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