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NNewcomb Senior Member Offline 757-200, 767-300, 727-100, 727-200, 727F, 737-200 Posts: 604 Location: United States Joined: Jun 29^th, 2010 Gender:	What do you guys think of this computer, for FSX? May 20^th, 2012 at 5:24pm	Print Post
	I'm looking for a new laptop for FSX, I would get a desktop, but I have no where to put it, plus, I like the mobility of a laptop. I've found one that looks pretty good, but I would like public opinions, plus, if anyone has this laptop, I'd be happy to know what kind of performance you're getting. The one I'm interested in is the one on the far right: http://www.dell.com/us/p/inspiron-15r-n5110/pd Let me know what you think! Specs: 2nd Generation Intel� Core� i5-2450M processor (2.50 GHz with Turbo Boost 2.0 up to 3.10 GHz) Genuine Windows� 7 Home Premium, 64bit, English 15.6" High Definition (720p) LED Display with Truelife� 6GB3 Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1333MHz 1TB 5400 RPM SATA Hard Drive 8X Tray Load CD/DVD Burner (Dual Layer DVD+/-R Drive) Intel� HD Graphics 3000 1 Year Basic Support 5.84 lbs

	�Nick&&&&Dell Inspirion 15R \| Intel Core i5 @ 2.5 Ghz (Up to 3.1Ghz) \| 6GB DDR3 @ 1333Mhz \| Intel Graphics HD 3000 \| 750GB HDD \| Windows 7 Home Premium
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CoolP Senior Member Offline Posts: 2568 Joined: Jan 17^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: What do you guys think of this computer, for FSX? Reply #1 - May 20^th, 2012 at 7:04pm	Print Post
	2nd Generation Intel� Core� i5-2450M processor (2.50 GHz with Turbo Boost 2.0 up to 3.10 GHz) Genuine Windows� 7 Home Premium, 64bit, English 15.6" High Definition (720p) LED Display with Truelife� 6GB3 Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1333MHz 1TB 5400 RPM SATA Hard Drive 8X Tray Load CD/DVD Burner (Dual Layer DVD+/-R Drive) Intel� HD Graphics 3000 1 Year Basic Support 5.84 lbs Nick, that's a small dual core CPU with the onboard (means 'on die') graphics. So it will work with FSX, but since that soft is very CPU limited, you shouldn't expect stellar results when it comes to dense scenery and addon planes. The graphics will only offer limited support for fluent AA settings in games, especially in cloudy FSX skies. The OS is nice, the RAM amount is too and you can surely live with those 1tb of disk space. It's just that you will see the CPU limits approaching fast. The laptop folks can't pick the biggest CPUs for thermal reasons (or then would have to live with a noisy fan arrangement), but maybe there's something offering some quad core and a bit of headroom on the frequency. The graphics will work, but you can't throw nice AA settings or something at them. So maybe there's some quad core plus a dedicated Nvidia or AMD graphic chip. With that, the size may go up and the battery life down though, so it's a tradeoff of some sort.


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NNewcomb Senior Member Offline 757-200, 767-300, 727-100, 727-200, 727F, 737-200 Posts: 604 Location: United States Joined: Jun 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: What do you guys think of this computer, for FSX? Reply #2 - May 20^th, 2012 at 8:08pm	Print Post
	CoolP wrote on May 20^th, 2012 at 7:04pm: 2nd Generation Intel� Core� i5-2450M processor (2.50 GHz with Turbo Boost 2.0 up to 3.10 GHz) Genuine Windows� 7 Home Premium, 64bit, English 15.6" High Definition (720p) LED Display with Truelife� 6GB3 Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1333MHz 1TB 5400 RPM SATA Hard Drive 8X Tray Load CD/DVD Burner (Dual Layer DVD+/-R Drive) Intel� HD Graphics 3000 1 Year Basic Support 5.84 lbs Nick, that's a small dual core CPU with the onboard (means 'on die') graphics. So it will work with FSX, but since that soft is very CPU limited, you shouldn't expect stellar results when it comes to dense scenery and addon planes. The graphics will only offer limited support for fluent AA settings in games, especially in cloudy FSX skies. The OS is nice, the RAM amount is too and you can surely live with those 1tb of disk space. It's just that you will see the CPU limits approaching fast. The laptop folks can't pick the biggest CPUs for thermal reasons (or then would have to live with a noisy fan arrangement), but maybe there's something offering some quad core and a bit of headroom on the frequency. The graphics will work, but you can't throw nice AA settings or something at them. So maybe there's some quad core plus a dedicated Nvidia or AMD graphic chip. With that, the size may go up and the battery life down though, so it's a tradeoff of some sort. Well, I think it will be *A LOT* better than my current laptop: http://us.toshiba.com/computers/laptops/satellite/l500/L505-ES5018 Performance PROCESSOR* Intel� Pentium� Processor T4400 OPERATING SYSTEM* Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium (64-bit) GRAPHICS ENGINE* Intel� Graphics Media Accelerator 4500M GRAPHICS MEMORY* 128MB-1341MB dynamically allocated shared graphics memory Memory and Storage MEMORY* 3GB DDR3 800MHz memory HARD DRIVE* 320GB HDD (5400rpm, Serial ATA) OPTICAL DRIVE* DVD-SuperMulti (+/-R double layer) with Labelflash� drive Audio and Video DISPLAY SIZE 15.6" widescreen DISPLAY TYPE* HD TruBrite� LCD Display DISPLAY RESOLUTION 1366x768 (HD), 16:9 aspect ratio, Supports 720p content AUDIO Built-in microphone, Headphone jack (stereo), Microphone jack (mono), Standard stereo speakers ^^Yeah, I know....I wasn't considering FSX when I bought it a few years back, because I didn't have the disks for it, nor did I ever think I would have any 3rd party add-ons. It was just a casual, everyday computer. Right now, I get about 4-7FPS, (Even with XTreme FSX Booster) No AA, and setting that should be lower....But I live with it...

	�Nick&&&&Dell Inspirion 15R \| Intel Core i5 @ 2.5 Ghz (Up to 3.1Ghz) \| 6GB DDR3 @ 1333Mhz \| Intel Graphics HD 3000 \| 750GB HDD \| Windows 7 Home Premium
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CoolP Senior Member Offline Posts: 2568 Joined: Jan 17^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: What do you guys think of this computer, for FSX? Reply #3 - May 20^th, 2012 at 8:26pm	Print Post
	4-7 fps renders you a tough guy. In that case it might indeed be a large step forward. You just shouldn't combine too many addons or run AA in the clouds. I've started with FSX in a Core Duo back then, but I didn't have addons so it was ok, though not that nice or amazingly fast. If possible, I'd still head for at least some more CPU power on your new purchase.


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LOU Beta Team Offline 727,707,747,757,767= 40years of Boeings Posts: 1594 Location: Central PA, USA Joined: Mar 3^rd, 2010 Gender:	Re: What do you guys think of this computer, for FSX? Reply #4 - May 20^th, 2012 at 8:57pm	Print Post
	Nick, I bought a new laptop a few months ago. It's a ASUS G74SX. This is a pretty fast confuser. I got it to take FSX on the road as I do some talks on board ships and my old Sony would only run FS9. This is not a laptop, but if you carry it around you don't need to go to the gym. This bad boy is big and heavy. Oh did I mention it's heavy? It runs FSX pretty well. For example, my Captain Sim 727 in the ORBX-PNW gets 25 FPS + all the time. The computer has a built-in boost program which is easier on the processor since it only cranks the chip when it needs it and with the dual fans blowing out the back it runs cool. I use a HDMI cable to feed my HD LCD projector and the large format picture is very neat to show off FSX. ASUS G74SX - Second generation Intel� Core� i7 CPU and NVIDIA� GTX 560M GPU with 3GB of GDDR5 VRAM, 17.3 inch screen, about 10 pounds. I bought the largest Targus bag I could find and it just fits! It's also a power hog so I seldom run it on the batteries. But, for what I need it for it does the job. The laptop CoolP has is also a colorful model which I considered, but it was too much computer for me! � Lou Uploaded with ImageShack.us

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CoolP Senior Member Offline Posts: 2568 Joined: Jan 17^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: What do you guys think of this computer, for FSX? Reply #5 - May 20^th, 2012 at 9:42pm	Print Post
	Now that's what I call a mobile FSX rig. My guess is, that when you put it on battery only, it may ask you 'really????' � and then laugh at you running for some wall outlet after 15 minutes. Seriously, I think that's a hell of a mobile gaming machine, Lou. Makes sense for FSX. How do the prices of your two models compare? The gaming machine may not be your choice for writing your PhD thesis while sitting in the library (they will throw you out just for the noise of it), but for the gaming part of life, it may be worth a shot. Quote: The laptop CoolP has is also a colorful model which I considered, but it was too much computer for me! But you liked the screensaver, didn't you?


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NNewcomb Senior Member Offline 757-200, 767-300, 727-100, 727-200, 727F, 737-200 Posts: 604 Location: United States Joined: Jun 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: What do you guys think of this computer, for FSX? Reply #6 - May 20^th, 2012 at 9:57pm	Print Post
	LOU wrote on May 20^th, 2012 at 8:57pm: Nick, I bought a new laptop a few months ago. It's a ASUS G74SX. This is a pretty fast confuser. I got it to take FSX on the road as I do some talks on board ships and my old Sony would only run FS9. This is not a laptop, but if you carry it around you don't need to go to the gym. This bad boy is big and heavy. Oh did I mention it's heavy? It runs FSX pretty well. For example, my Captain Sim 727 in the ORBX-PNW gets 25 FPS + all the time. The computer has a built-in boost program which is easier on the processor since it only cranks the chip when it needs it and with the dual fans blowing out the back it runs cool. I use a HDMI cable to feed my HD LCD projector and the large format picture is very neat to show off FSX. ASUS G74SX - Second generation Intel� Core� i7 CPU and NVIDIA� GTX 560M GPU with 3GB of GDDR5 VRAM, 17.3 inch screen, about 10 pounds. I bought the largest Targus bag I could find and it just fits! It's also a power hog so I seldom run it on the batteries. But, for what I need it for it does the job. The laptop CoolP has is also a colorful model which I considered, but it was too much computer for me! � Lou http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/580/asusz.png Uploaded with ImageShack.us Lou, It looks like a great laptop for FSX! But sadly, its too much for me � The one I showed is about as much as I'm willing to spend, I customized a dream computer on a gaming computer website, the total cost was about $9600... CoolP, I don't use AA at all, I was once flying a payware Bonanza A36 around the Seattle area, and FSX basically just stopped, no fatal error though, it just stopped, 0 FPS for about 10 minutes, then it would move a little, then the same thing, the finally I was able to shut AA off, I was getting about 1.5-3FPS, so that's basically when I decided I need a new computer, so that this current one wouldn't go out the window and be burn in the heat of the moment (pun intended) � The same model that I'm looking at has an i7 available, I'm sure of the speed....but it is a 17.3in with 8GB of RAM, I think that its about $150 dollars more, how do you guys think that one would work for FSX?

	�Nick&&&&Dell Inspirion 15R \| Intel Core i5 @ 2.5 Ghz (Up to 3.1Ghz) \| 6GB DDR3 @ 1333Mhz \| Intel Graphics HD 3000 \| 750GB HDD \| Windows 7 Home Premium
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CoolP Senior Member Offline Posts: 2568 Joined: Jan 17^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: What do you guys think of this computer, for FSX? Reply #7 - May 20^th, 2012 at 10:46pm	Print Post
	That i7 sounds much better, Nick. This will be a quad core and may also offer some higher frequency + Turbo mode. That big screen may also be nice and since FSX isn't too sensitive on the actual resolution (in doesn't lose much power at high res), you should be good to go.


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LOU Beta Team Offline 727,707,747,757,767= 40years of Boeings Posts: 1594 Location: Central PA, USA Joined: Mar 3^rd, 2010 Gender:	Re: What do you guys think of this computer, for FSX? Reply #8 - May 21^st, 2012 at 3:16am	Print Post
	Nick, the ASUS G74SX sells for around 1,500 or so at Best Buy. Maybe less when on sale. Extra long power cord included!

	Processor: Intel Core i7-4770k @3.5Ghz Memory: 6Gb DDR3 1600mhz Video: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680 Storage: 256Gb Samsung 840 Pro \| 120Gb OCZ Agility 3 \| WD Black 640Gb 7200rpm 55" Samsung LED - HDTV for monitor
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NNewcomb Senior Member Offline 757-200, 767-300, 727-100, 727-200, 727F, 737-200 Posts: 604 Location: United States Joined: Jun 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: What do you guys think of this computer, for FSX? Reply #9 - May 21^st, 2012 at 3:59pm	Print Post
	LOU wrote on May 21^st, 2012 at 3:16am: Nick, the ASUS G74SX sells for around 1,500 or so at Best Buy. Maybe less when on sale. Extra long power cord included! � As much as I would like to get it, it is way over my limit � The i7 is really pushing it, but it does sounds pretty nice �

	�Nick&&&&Dell Inspirion 15R \| Intel Core i5 @ 2.5 Ghz (Up to 3.1Ghz) \| 6GB DDR3 @ 1333Mhz \| Intel Graphics HD 3000 \| 750GB HDD \| Windows 7 Home Premium
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Markoz CS Team Online Posts: 12373 Location: Victoria, Australia Joined: Apr 24^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: What do you guys think of this computer, for FSX? Reply #10 - May 21^st, 2012 at 10:49pm	Print Post
	I saw the ASUS G74SX selling for $AU2499 in a computer store in Melbourne, yet it is available through E-bay for under $AU1500 by quite a lot of sellers (some were as low as $AU1295). They were all brand new, no second hand ones. So I'm sure if you look hard enough, you will find a cheap one.

	ASUS_G74SX.JPG (Attachment deleted) Mark Fletcher PC: i7 10700K @3.8/5.1GHz \| 64GB DDR4 3200 \| 12GB RTX 4070 Super \| 32" LCD Monitor \| 1TB SSD & 2x2TB SSD \| Win 11 Pro - FSX/FSX-SE/P3D3/P3D4/P3D5/P3D6/MSFS2020 15.6" Gaming Laptop: i7 7700HQ \| 32GB DDR4 \| 6GB GTX 1060 \| 256GB SSD & 1TB HDD \| Win 10 Pro 64bit - FSX-SE/P3D4
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CoolP Senior Member Offline Posts: 2568 Joined: Jan 17^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: What do you guys think of this computer, for FSX? Reply #11 - May 22^nd, 2012 at 6:14pm	Print Post
	I could grab the laptop (some i5 model) from my girlfriend and see how it runs FSX. Just for the fun of it. Ok, I would lose my girlfriend then, so I'm not sure. Maybe I'll postpone that project and just move those Sims3 savegames to see what happens.


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NNewcomb Senior Member Offline 757-200, 767-300, 727-100, 727-200, 727F, 737-200 Posts: 604 Location: United States Joined: Jun 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: What do you guys think of this computer, for FSX? Reply #12 - May 26^th, 2012 at 9:16pm	Print Post
	I looked today at Best Buy for the i7 17.3in model, turns out it was just the same, with the exception of 8GBs of RAM, and a 750GB HDD instead of 1TB. Plus, it was more expensive. The only Dell i7 laptop model if found was a 14 inch XPS. Which was about 1100 dollars, a lot more than I want to spend. So I think I'll just go with my original choice and see how FSX runs. I eventually want to upgrade the RAM to 8GBs of Corsair Vengeance @ 1600Mhz, but I'm not sure if it would work or not with that computer, do any of you happen to know if it would? Or where I could find out if it would?

	�Nick&&&&Dell Inspirion 15R \| Intel Core i5 @ 2.5 Ghz (Up to 3.1Ghz) \| 6GB DDR3 @ 1333Mhz \| Intel Graphics HD 3000 \| 750GB HDD \| Windows 7 Home Premium
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Jared_Maurtua Full Member Offline Posts: 56 Joined: Apr 10^th, 2012 Gender:	Re: What do you guys think of this computer, for FSX? Reply #13 - May 26^th, 2012 at 10:37pm	Print Post
	Needs more RAM.

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NNewcomb Senior Member Offline 757-200, 767-300, 727-100, 727-200, 727F, 737-200 Posts: 604 Location: United States Joined: Jun 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: What do you guys think of this computer, for FSX? Reply #14 - May 27^th, 2012 at 1:11am	Print Post
	Jared_Maurtua wrote on May 26^th, 2012 at 10:37pm: Needs more RAM. 8 Gigs is all it holds, which is what I'll upgrade it to.

	�Nick&&&&Dell Inspirion 15R \| Intel Core i5 @ 2.5 Ghz (Up to 3.1Ghz) \| 6GB DDR3 @ 1333Mhz \| Intel Graphics HD 3000 \| 750GB HDD \| Windows 7 Home Premium
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