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Poll Question: How does your APU generator work? (Ground, engines OFF)

No problems    
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No power in 5-10 minutes    
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Total votes: 55
« Created by: Captain Sim on: Apr 30th, 2012 at 6:02pm »

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Re: 737 locks up
Reply #105 - Jan 13th, 2013 at 12:08am
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Remeber that the aircraft is still perfectly flyable even without the nice addon from FSXpaul. If you loaded a flight with the engines running, then cut them and turned APU on you can stay at the gate for hours, atleast until you run out of fuel. Wink


With all the tesing I've done with my new gauge, I've never had the APU circuit work correctly doing what you've described.
Maybe I'll try some more  Undecided

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I disabled my APU/Grd Pwr gauge, loaded up with a running aircraft, shut down the engines, started the APU: didn't work. Same with the ground power.
I have FSUICP on my system and had the battery set to 'indefinitely' so I never noticed the APU/Grd Pwr issue before.


You have to start the APU before you cut the engines. That way you don't use the battery circuit. Set the AC selector to APU after the APU has come online, then cut engines. It works for me!

EdwardS wrote on Jan 12th, 2013 at 1:49pm:
Actually, AirCanadaGuy, while you can stay at the gate for hours you cannot restart the engines to go flying with the fuel you have left over. Technically that makes the plane un-flyable simply because the engines won't start back up.  Sad


I didn't recall you saying that, my apologies. Using bleed air and the ground power can be used to start engines in real life, but that doesn't work in the sim for some of you?
  
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Re: 737 locks up
Reply #106 - Jan 13th, 2013 at 12:47am
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No, AirCanadaGuy, I am very sorry to report it does not work. If I start the plane, start the APU, I can then start the engines; however, if I start the plane, start the APU, wait 10 minutes or so, the engines will not start. Also I have no ground power no matter what I try. I have downloaded and installed the mod by fsxpaul and hope that will fix her up.
  
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Re: 737 locks up
Reply #107 - Mar 3rd, 2013 at 12:33am
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Just out of curiosity I tried last night.  Left the APU running, Engines off, battery to battery bus, source swtich to APU GEN and the Generator Power Switches to ON.   All the power indications seem to stay on but I could not start the plane.   Nothing happens even tho I had the APU Bleed Air On, X-over set to both Auto and ON with both packs turned off.    Tried multiple times and I've talked to few people who have experienced the same issue but don't come to the forums.   IF there is a certain place to look that would be great.
  

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Re: 737 locks up
Reply #108 - Aug 28th, 2013 at 8:59pm
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Hey there,

I'm getting the same issue. It is most certainly from the FSX menu. I have GSX, for those who know what it is, and when I requested refueling, the fuel truck showed up, it opened the default FSX fuel and payload screen, I put in the amount I need and closed. All the electrical power was gone, ground power didn't help, APU was not starting. Engines were off. I do have the electricalwaysavailable=1 and it did help before, from what I remember but it doesn't help anymore.

Please, someone help us fix this bug! It's sad that I paid 54 bucks for this and have to deal with this issue. The plane is well designed and it's alright to fly, but this electrical bug is driving me and others nuts!
  
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Re: 737 locks up
Reply #109 - Aug 29th, 2013 at 3:14am
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Shai Genis wrote on Aug 28th, 2013 at 8:59pm:
Hey there,

I'm getting the same issue. It is most certainly from the FSX menu. I have GSX, for those who know what it is, and when I requested refueling, the fuel truck showed up, it opened the default FSX fuel and payload screen, I put in the amount I need and closed. All the electrical power was gone, ground power didn't help, APU was not starting. Engines were off. I do have the electricalwaysavailable=1 and it did help before, from what I remember but it doesn't help anymore.

Please, someone help us fix this bug! It's sad that I paid 54 bucks for this and have to deal with this issue. The plane is well designed and it's alright to fly, but this electrical bug is driving me and others nuts!

It is not because you are going into the menu in FSX. It can lose power just sitting there for about 8 minutes. Sad

I also have and use GSX, and mine has suddenly started doing this (about a month ago). It happens during the boarding passenger and loading baggage phase. It's actually about 8 minutes after loading the 737 into FSX, so the GSX phase doesn't really matter, but since I set up the amount of fuel for the flight before I load it into FSX, it always happens during that phase of GSX.

Since my OP, on 24 April 2012 until about a month ago, the power stayed ON no matter what I did, so I always had power. I was NOT using electric_always_available=1, nor was I using unlimited/lengthened battery power via FSUIPC (registered version), so it must be being caused by something I have installed recently. I will have to go through all my receipts for products bought recently, to help with figuring out which one(s) it might be. Sad

The electric_always_available=1 doesn't fix the problem, so for now, I've resorted to using lengthened battery power from within FSUIPC. Sad
  

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Re: 737 locks up
Reply #110 - Aug 29th, 2013 at 4:00am
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Shai,

Now available in the Avsim library, search for:   cs737_apu_gen_grdpwr_mod.zip.

This did it for me. Never had battery drain issues since. Can run just ground power for hours if need be and no drain.

Be sure and install Paul's V-one gauge, Bud's FDE tweaks,  and Dutch's engine performance patch. Without these, it's far removed from RW performance. With them, it's much more realistic and enjoyable.

Sorry you paid full freight ($54) for this AC with these and many more fundamental issues that based on history and track record, will never be fixed.

  
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Re: 737 locks up
Reply #111 - Sep 14th, 2013 at 2:10pm
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Well this is really weird!

After reporting that my 737 was suffering from the loss of power, it's no longer losing power.

I had it sitting at the gate for 20 minutes, then I started the APU, then started the engines and everything went like clockwork. All this when I had decided I was going to use the cs737_apu_gen_grdpwr_mod by Paul. Weird! Shocked Undecided
  

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Re: 737 locks up
Reply #112 - Sep 17th, 2013 at 10:28am
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Blame it on the FSX Gremlins!
  
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Re: 737 locks up
Reply #113 - Sep 17th, 2013 at 12:24pm
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Must be FSX Gremlins. Weird! Huh
  

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Re: 737 locks up
Reply #114 - Oct 5th, 2013 at 8:54am
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I use it in Prepar3D, which doesn't have Gremlins, and the problem is the same.

If I leave the aircraft sitting 10+ minutes with the APU running and the engines off, all the overhead annunciator lights remain lit and the battery indicates normal voltage, but the engines can not be started. Navigation lights are also off even though the switch is on, radios frequencies are not selectable. If I shut down the APU with this condition it will not restart Only restarting the sim resets the problem.

I have never been able to get ground power to work with the 737 or 727. It works fine with the 707 though, go figure...
  

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Re: 737 locks up
Reply #115 - Mar 11th, 2014 at 12:22am
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Is there any Progress in fixing this issue? I experience the same: while on APU Power doing flight preperation, the APU shuts down and the aircraft is not usable anymore. Even after connecting ground power, the battery continues to drain.

I don't know whats going on with you guys at CS, but your 1.x versions of your 737 and 777 releases are full of bugs and incomplete. You promise working systems on the product page, people pay money for things that are not included. I understand programming is hard, but this plane has been out for almost 2 years now with the same problem. This way of cheating customers is considered a crime in most parts of the world!
  
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Reply #116 - Mar 11th, 2014 at 1:51am
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SoulFlight wrote on Mar 11th, 2014 at 12:22am:
Is there any Progress in fixing this issue? I experience the same: while on APU Power doing flight preperation, the APU shuts down and the aircraft is not usable anymore. Even after connecting ground power, the battery continues to drain.

I don't know whats going on with you guys at CS, but your 1.x versions of your 737 and 777 releases are full of bugs and incomplete. You promise working systems on the product page, people pay money for things that are not included. I understand programming is hard, but this plane has been out for almost 2 years now with the same problem. This way of cheating customers is considered a crime in most parts of the world!

An update is expected in May.
  

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Re: 737 locks up
Reply #117 - Mar 18th, 2014 at 12:11am
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@ Mark

well, I hope for the best then....to be honest the load of bugs that are on the 737 (which I really was looking forward to) and later the 777 prevented me from buying the L-1011 so far, which is a shame because I also was looking forward to that plane....

But for me there is no use in spending money on planes I later will never use because flying them just isnt fun when you need to work around issues all the time.

The user made hotfixes for the 737 FDE for example make the plane stop losing too much speed at descent, but overpower the engines even more....(at 70 % N1 you have to watch not to overspeed)
  
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Re: 737 locks up
Reply #118 - Aug 7th, 2016 at 11:18pm
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Is this issue still unresolved? It is listed "on the list for next SP".


  

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Re: 737 locks up
Reply #119 - Aug 10th, 2016 at 7:28am
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I have the L1011 in P3d, APU GEN works ok.

I am thinking of adding the 737-200, so is the bug fixed?

I would be surprised if its not.

Mark, or Tanya?

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